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Microsoft Enlists Jerry Seinfeld in Ad War Against Apple
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http://www.reuters.com/article/industryNews/idUSWNAS046320080430
I didn't say it did great, but it didn't do bad either.
Well then that wasn't pointed at you, was it? Of course I suppose I'm being a hypocrite here, with my defense of Seinfeld.
I realize this, but it just seems wrong to call him one. At least he did Bee Movie.
Not that it matters who Microsoft got. Too little, too late, right?
It would be VERY interesting to find out what kind of computers are being used by the creatives at this agency. I'll bet they are Macs! Apple should just play the new Windows commercials, and at the end say "Made with a Mac!"
i didn't read all the posts, so i'm probably repeating somebody,
"what's the deal with apples? they're red, shiny and a fruit. not a computer!"
"what's the deal with apples? they're red, shiny and a fruit. not a computer!"
Are you kidding me!
Jerry Yang is the last person I would seek opinion on MS.
Especially after Google bailing out his Yahoo thing (or whatever left of it).
The majority of creative agencies use Macs.
However, good design comes from creative minds not Mac or PC.
If you read a nice novel, you don't credit a typewriter or MSWord, do you?
I actually think MS paid $10mil to Seinfeld just to use one of his memorable catchphrases from his show - like the one you pointed out or even the "Master of your own domain" or maybe the "....but I don't want to be a pirate" one spun into the Switcher or Mac Dude.
I don't think MS is gonna go after the "cool" thing (at least directly) as I think they'll not do something that Apple has already done.
Well, hopefully they will not sink as low as to use mocking techniques, like Apple does to Windows.
I can see the ads now.....
"The Mac-Nazi" - No apples for you....
"Master of your domain" - Internet porn?
"The Mac-Nazi" - No apples for you....
"Master of your domain" - Internet porn?
Finally - proof that my fellow Mac users can exhibit sanity.
But your right, SWC. MS is like the lame, podgy suburban man who tucks his aqua polo shirt into his cream khaki shorts and drapes his windcheater over his shoulders. And then buys a Porsche Boxter thinking he's something special. When he should have bought a Ferrari F355 and a new wardrobe.
Can we quit with the Seinfeld bashing? Please? EDIT: All of a sudden Seinfeld is a has-been simply because he's batting for a bunch of morons? Leave the guy alone.
Well as a matter of fact they are using Macs. Of course o9ski is right: it doesn't matter what the tool is. The point though is that if the ad agency uses Macs (and deliberately made the choice) then it does say something about the platform.
Let me tell you as an insider.
It's not deliberate choice it's just a legacy. Some old guys were using macs in 80s before Windows came out. Those were the days when Macs dominated and MS wasn't even there or was an underdog.
They used to software that was made for macs (Quark, etc.).
These days when Adobe dominates platform doesn't make any difference.
It's like manual vs automatic (by the way I drive both and know what i am talking about).
Mac is not a part of creative process, it's a tool.
Moreover, you might not believe me, but some agencies still run on G4 and early G5s and CRT monitors.
Could have sworn that you can run Windows on a Mac... So even if someone buys a Mac, that doesn't mean that MS won't prosper. It will mean that HP, Dell, ect, won't. So even if the agency uses Macs, does it matter? After all, even Mac users who have Intel Macs are still being targeted by the ad campaign.
And Apple is what? The stuck up snob who thinks he's better than everyone else, even they're not.
And Linux is what? The hippie that smokes too much marijuana and feels that everything should be "free" and that we should all just get along.
Jesus Christ. Why do you people get so defensive over a company. Does it really matter? God forbid you acknowledge the strengths and downfalls of each OS and just accept them as what they really are... 1's and 0's. Maybe the strengths of Windows doesn't exactly benefit you, but that doesn't make it bad. You guys act as if Mac OS X is perfect, when in reality, it's far from it.
And Apple is what? The stuck up snob who thinks he's better than everyone else, even they're not.
And Linux is what? The hippie that smokes too much marijuana and feels that everything should be "free" and that we should all just get along.
Jesus Christ. Why do you people get so defensive over a company. Does it really matter? God forbid you acknowledge the strengths and downfalls of each OS and just accept them as what they really are... 1's and 0's. Maybe the strengths of Windows doesn't exactly benefit you, but that doesn't make it bad. You guys act as if Mac OS X is perfect, when in reality, it's far from it.
I absolutely *do* believe you! I mean, you don't always need to upgrade your hardware or software. Sometimes you can just say 'stop, that will be enough'.
Then there's the philosophy of 'if it isn't broke don't fix it'. Some folks stumble upon a perfect, stable set-up and leave it at that.
Who's defensive? Some people will make religions out of anything. Too bad for them I suppose.
Do clothes matter? Does anything matter? Now we're getting philosophical.
Who said that? Do you have any evidence? Please show me this evidence. If people say 'it's perfect for me' it doesn't count.
There are lots of posts around here by Mac users who wish for fundamental changes to Apple software. Go look for them.
And lighten up. Go on. I know you can.
If I had to choose b/w these two to let live I would choose Newman.
To bad some dinosaur ate him in Jurassic Park 1.
Imagine this guy against that Mac hippie dude.
Man, iTunes crashed my iMac again..
Bring back Seinfeld and his cast of characters...
We can have "The Soup Nazi" commercial...
'No XP for you!"
We can have "The Soup Nazi" commercial...
'No XP for you!"
OK, well, we could get into this, and you're fundamentally right about English needing to imply a lot. However, I wasn't actually picking on him because I thought it was not "understandable" -- I don't doubt you could guess his meaning. No, it's just that I happened to find it funny, when I thought of a helicopter actually spinning. You missed the point.
What you say about technical vs implying with colloquialisms is quite accurate. However, you seem to think it's normal to describe helicopters as spinning, which isn't the case. With a top or a revolving door, it's clear that basically the thing we picture in response to their names spins. Likewise with a computer fan, though technically it needs a motor to spin it. The computer fan, top, or revolving door are all essentially spinning things, while a helicopter, indoor cooling fan, or unicycle just have parts that spin, when we picture the situation of spinning. Therefore, if something which only has a small (if significant) spinning part is described in general as spinning, it can have comic effects.
That's why I said I wasn't picking on his English skills -- it's not so much a mistake as a funny way of putting it, like my daughter once described a unicorn as "pointy." Understandable, but funny. (Yes, my daughter sees unicorns.)
Don't worry. I knew that it sounded funny. Sometimes I use interesting ways to articulate my thoughts.
On the other hand, if one gets into technical details then it could be successfully argued that helicopter is spinning... from the point of view of helicopter blades. Everything is relative. All depends on your reference point.
Just because it appears that the Sun is spinning around the Earth it is not factually correct. It is undeniably true that just the opposite is correct.