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Microsoft Enlists Jerry Seinfeld in Ad War Against Apple

Pikemann Urge said:
Who's defensive?
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Seems to me that you're being defensive:

Who said that? Do you have any evidence? Please show me this evidence.
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Besides, I never said that people were claiming that Mac OS is perfect. I said they're attitude regarding Mac OS X leaves the impression that they feel that it's "perfect." Just pop into the Macbook Pro forums when someone asks whether they should get a better specced PC laptop or a Macbook Pro. Most of the comments basically say that the Macbook Pro is better with little to no explanation, or that they shouldn't get Vista because it's got all these problems (many of which are huge exaggerations or put in a negative light because the person making the comments don't know any better, such as "Vista is a memory hog," without knowing what Vista is doing with the memory).

If you want a little evidence, here:

https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/542831/

I'll even point you to a few posts that make my point that many people around here act as if Mac OS X is a "superior" OS.

Post #3.

MacDawg said:
Wow, and it even runs Vista!

No thanks...

Woof, Woof – Dawg
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ggjstudios said:
It looks like two old Thinkpads and a blue pocket calculator went through the Enterprise's transporter together and got mutated on the other end! Show some mercy and euthanize it! It's cruel to make it live that way, especially infected with the world's most popular virus: Vista! :D
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Post #67:

This is a perfect example:
MacDawg said:
Look, I can afford to buy any notebook I want
But lets be real, this is after all a Mac site, what do you expect?

It could be faster than a speeding bullet and able to leap tall buildings with a single bound and able to bend steel with it's mouse... but the bottom line to me is it runs VISTA (or it is the latest greatest using the ancient XP)

I buy for OSX... my MBP does everything I need AND it runs OSX
I don't have to download an update every 3 days for security
I don't have to update my AVG every day
I don't have to update my Defender every day
I don't have to use all that horsepower to scan in the background all day
I don't have to worry about everything sent to me in email
I don't have to worry about every site I visit
I could go on and on

So, if you want to come to a Mac site and extol all of the virtues of a PC that runs 0-60 in 1.8 seconds and gets 273 miles per gallon... so be it... but the bottom line is.. it is a PC and runs VISTA

Don't want it
Don't need it

If I did... I would buy one and not complain about the Mac not doing this or that... I would just get it

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Those are just a few examples. Once again, it's key to note my wording. I didn't say that people said that Mac OS is perfect. I said that they acted as if it was/is. There is a difference. It may be small, but it's still there.

It's kind of like me saying, "You act as if you're God." I'm not saying you proclaimed yourself God or that you yourself said that you're God. I'm just saying that your actions make it seem that you're under the impression that you're God. The same thing applies here. The way people talk about Mac OS X, especially in comparison to Windows, makes it seem as if they're under this impression that it's "perfect." Of course the word "perfect" is used loosely, but it's there to illustrate a point.

My problem doesn't lie with Mac users. My problem lies with fanboys. You know, the ones who think that "product X" is the cure for cancer and will bring world peace. Right...
 
I love how so many of you have instantly pounced on Seinfield for this, a.k.a "Oh I never liked him anyway!"

Seems heavily defensive, but then I guess Microsoft fanboys say the same about Justin Long and the PC guy.
 
Sherman Homan said:
Seinfeld: "Macs are gay. Not that there's anything WRONG with that."
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Now that would be a pretty interesting ad...


HLdan said:
Wow, you just showed us all how much of a Microsoft FANBOY you are.
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Yeah, very thoughtful post there, chief.

I'm glad anyone who doesn't fall head-over-heels in love with all of Apple's actions is a Microsoft fanboy.

I mean, after all - I own a whole zero Microsoft products, have never owned a computer other than a Mac and have been posting on this Mac-centric site since 2003, but since I don't think it's the worst idea in the world that they're featuring Seinfeld in some advertising, I'm a Microsoft fanboy. I think you've maybe been to one too many keynotes and gotten your brain fried by the RDF...
 
Ubuntu said:
I love how so many of you have instantly pounced on Seinfield for this, a.k.a "Oh I never liked him anyway!"
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I don't know about the others, but personally, I do not care for Seinfeld at all.

Comedy is one of those things that you either like or do not like. In my case, Seinfeld falls in the later. To each his own.

Just glad that he is not working with Apple.
 
Seinfeld the Show is not Seinfeld the Man.

Just because some properties person placed a mac in the corner of the set of the seinfeld show doesn't mean Jerry Seinfeld was pro-mac or even ever used a mac.

Come on, he's getting 10 MILLION for like a day's work. Even if he has tons of royalties, why not take the 10 mill. It's just computers, no one's selling out Jesus here.

Speaking of which, Christ would've been way smarter to put in the think different ads than SEINFELD. Why was he in that? Did he change the world in any way...? oh wait, he paved the way for mind pulping trash like FRIENDS...
 
Do you guys think the ad agency (Crispin Porter + Bogusky) have already found this thread?

I'm honestly looking forward to being entertained by what they come up with and then Apple's response. This should be fun. Was there ever an animated celebrity death match between Ballmer and Jobs?
 
MickdyMickdyMAC said:
Do you guys think the ad agency (Crispin Porter + Bogusky) have already found this thread?
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They're too busy working to read it probably. :) I only participate in a handful of forums myself and I'm hardly snowed under with work.

MickdyMickdyMAC said:
I'm honestly looking forward to being entertained by what they come up with and then Apple's response.
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I hope Apple doesn't respond. Only juvenile minds react to challenges. You know you're winning when your opposition reacts to you. Apple seems far too disciplined to react to this nonsense.

Creative ads don't work as much as you'd think. Celebrities in ads don't either. Just a thought.
 
iJohnHenry said:
And all those old pics will come to the fore.

They need someone like Jeff Dunham.

Bill could be played by Achmed the dead terrorist.

Job's?? Why Peanut, of course. :D
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or maybe bubba ray, evil or stupid I'm not quite sure which portrays ms better evil or trailor trash
 
seinfeld is a sellout

yeah i'm sorry i love seinfeld's show and standup but now he's just a sellout to me after this BS. i know it's been mentioned since the first reply, but if you're gonna have a mac in every episode of your show and then turn around and promote micro$oft a decade later cause they forked over some bucks then maybe it's time to get off your ass and get back to work. i mean, other than the crappy beemovie what has he done since the sitcom and that one standup? nada.
you're just being lazy now jerry.
there's not a chance in hell he likes vista or even cares.
 
I'm an old guy and I remember Seinfeld. He's yesterday's news. I wonder how few incoming college freshmen even know who he is. Even if they did, with their foreword focused vision, he's much to do about nothing.

Now if MS has signed someone in the news and who is admired, like Shaw Johnson as a Vista promoter, the Vista message might get attention. But no chance of that, the head MS monkeyboy is lost in the past and is of the mind that two rich has-beens are going to be influencers to the influencers. This is like hiring Zaa Zaa Gabor to shill furs to PETA members.
 
It is unreal to see Microsoft publicly accept this position of being on the defensive. If I were a shareholder, I'd be totally pissed. As big as they are, they're going to admit that Apple has them flustered? That's pathetic.

If they put the 300 million into fixing that ridiculous OS, they wouldn't have to grovel for sympathy in ad campaigns at all. What an embarrassment.
 
The Flashing Fi said:
I'll even point you to a few posts that make my point that many people around here act as if Mac OS X is a "superior" OS.
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There is nothing in my post that would give the impression that I think Mac OS X is a "superior" OS ..... only that Vista is an "inferior" OS! That doesn't come from a bias in favor of everything Apple. Rather, it stems from being a very advanced Windows user since Windows 1.0 was first released in 1985. The more time one spends with a more technically advanced exposure to the Windows OS, the more one recognizes its overwhelming shortcomings.

Yes, Mac OS X is superior to Windows in many, many ways, but both have weaknesses. There's no such thing as a flawless OS. To fail to recognize the inherent advantages of a UNIX-based OS over a DOS-based OS is to either be technically naïve or in a serious state of denial.
 
Pigumon said:
Just because some properties person placed a mac in the corner of the set of the seinfeld show doesn't mean Jerry Seinfeld was pro-mac or even ever used a mac.

Come on, he's getting 10 MILLION for like a day's work. Even if he has tons of royalties, why not take the 10 mill. It's just computers, no one's selling out Jesus here.

Speaking of which, Christ would've been way smarter to put in the think different ads than SEINFELD. Why was he in that? Did he change the world in any way...? oh wait, he paved the way for mind pulping trash like FRIENDS...
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Maybe jesus would have better luck selling Microsoft than Sin-field could ever do...
 
I didn't read all 13 pages of this thread, but I just wanted to chime in and register my mirth at Microsoft's decision.

Young people don't know who Jerry Seinfeld is, or if they do, they think his show is old and unfunny. I fail to see how this will improve their image with anyone under 30.
 
For all the people bemoaning Microsoft's apparent complete miss of the target demographic of 18-25 year olds with washed up Jerry Seinfeld, did you ever stop to think for a moment that maybe Seinfeld is exactly who they want?

I had marketing as a minor in college. Young people don't have money to spend as they don't have jobs or if they do they are low paying. So who are they targeting? The parents in their 40s and 50s who control the purse strings, who are the ones who fondly remember Seinfeld like it was just yesterday.

Let me put it this way, how many of you youngsters in your teens and early 20s actually paid for your Mac? If your parents paid for them, then consider how an advertiser would reach THEM, not YOU. IMO Microsoft is looking to short-circuit the "Mac is cool" wave amongst the young by going directly to their financiers.
 
janstett said:
For all the people bemoaning Microsoft's apparent complete miss of the target demographic of 18-25 year olds with washed up Jerry Seinfeld, did you ever stop to think for a moment that maybe Seinfeld is exactly who they want?

I had marketing as a minor in college. Young people don't have money to spend as they don't have jobs or if they do they are low paying. So who are they targeting? The parents in their 40s and 50s who control the purse strings, who are the ones who fondly remember Seinfeld like it was just yesterday.

Let me put it this way, how many of you youngsters in your teens and early 20s actually paid for your Mac? If your parents paid for them, then consider how an advertiser would reach THEM, not YOU. IMO Microsoft is looking to short-circuit the "Mac is cool" wave amongst the young by going directly to their financiers.
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I was in my 20's and I paid for every Mac I owned. Now I'm 31 and still pay for all of my Macs :p.
 
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