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Yes, it's called Solaris and AIX. You can find it on servers beside mainframes.

I keep forgetting about Solaris. Oracle hasn't killed it yet?

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Yeah, and what happened to 'Windows 9'?

Was it worse than Windows 8? Was the UI a vomited acid flashback to what Bozo would have eaten?

I wondered what Firefox would do once they hit 'X', and they are already at 32 now, so not much I gather. Oh, it's 32.0.3 now... Are they shooting for 68 by Christmas?
 
Windows is supported for 10 years. OS X is supported for what? Even at its height, with each version coming out every 18 months, and them supporting two versions back .... 36 months? Enterprise doesn't move that fast.

I know. Enterprises like active directory, unattended installations and updates, enerprise support, Exchange servers, MS Office, MS Project etc. Microsoft cares a lot about that. Apple targets different customers.

The world does not end beyond the beloved OS X workstation ;)
 
I know. Enterprises like active directory, unattended installations and updates, enerprise support, Exchange servers, MS Office, MS Project etc. Microsoft cares a lot about that. Apple targets different customers.

The world does not end beyond the beloved OS X workstation ;)

If Apple cared more about enterprise for OS X (and actually make iWork an alternative for Office when it comes to enterprise), they probably could. They have the money. But, like you said, their audience is different. They're willing to give Microsoft the enterprise, it seems. The companies are quite cordial, after all.
 
I keep forgetting about Solaris. Oracle hasn't killed it yet?

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Yeah, and what happened to 'Windows 9'?

Was it worse than Windows 8? Was the UI a vomited acid flashback to what Bozo would have eaten?

I wondered what Firefox would do once they hit 'X', and they are already at 32 now, so not much I gather. Oh, it's 32.0.3 now... Are they shooting for 68 by Christmas?

Nope. They use it for their databases which they have not killed as well.
 
That's so untrue, its laughable.:D
Xerox tried to sue apple while Apple was trying to sue MS..

OSX hasn't changed forever, its still stuck in the XP like days and apple seem unwilling to try and move forward with a new GUI direction.

Good one. What do you want apple to make a metro screen for OS X? :rolleyes:
 
I know. Enterprises like active directory, unattended installations and updates, enerprise support, Exchange servers, MS Office, MS Project etc. Microsoft cares a lot about that. Apple targets different customers.

The world does not end beyond the beloved OS X workstation ;)

Their recent work with IBM tells a different story, also, OS X is conforming to the Unix spec, just like the OSes you mentioned earlier which means it's used for dev boxes and among sysadmins, and others who are allowed to bring their own device. No one is using AT&T Unix other than perhaps to play around with as far as I'm aware.
 
I wonder what Apple is going to do about this push from Microsoft. They are increasing productivity 10-fold for users. Something Mac has been lacking for ages.

What? We already have the new stuff from windows.
 
Good one. What do you want apple to make a metro screen for OS X? :rolleyes:

The live tiles were actually kind of neat; that is to say useful. The rest of the OS (8&8.1) were unworkable for me, so I abandoned my last Windows machine and went 100% Mac.

OS X is familiar and highly usable, and it's hard to see why they should change the GUI just for the sake of changing it. I think it would be useful to have a live tile option, though, as long as it gave us options as to size, placement, etc.
 
What? We already have the new stuff from windows.

This is typical of the hundreds of other lame "Mac has had that for years" responses on here.

You can all choose to ignore the FACT that this version of Windows, while taking a step back in a sense from a UI standpoint is exactly what EVERYONE has been asking for.

Software that works for both touch and mouse input interfaces... and will actually know which type of device it is installed on or will adjust depending on what the user is doing.

Software that works across ALL platforms... desktop, tablet and phone.

The stability, security and efficiency that Windows has had for YEARS... yes YEARS!

Make fun of someone's hair, claim that MS is "copying" stupid little casual user features when they haven't, but in the end, this is a "compromise" that will keep Windows in the game and advance it as a solution for more and more new device purchasers.
 
Windows 10 looks to me to be going further down the split personality path... it is a platypus of an OS. The Live tiles on the Start menu seem "tacked on" rather than as an element of a cohesive UI design. (it almost seems like a, "we're going to force you to see live tiles one way or another" attitude)

Having the Modern/Metro UI apps be window-able with a title bar and buttons, was a long convoluted way to simply change the theme... because in essence windowed apps in Win10 are no different than a themed Windows 7.

I was never a Windows 8 hater, but I did see it as too ambitious, too soon. This seems like too little, too late.

Seems like 3rd party Start menus will still be necessary to avoid having the live tile wart.

You do not have to pin live tiles on the new start menu. If you do not pin any you have essentially a windows 7 start menu.
 
The live tiles were actually kind of neat; that is to say useful. The rest of the OS (8&8.1) were unworkable for me, so I abandoned my last Windows machine and went 100% Mac.

OS X is familiar and highly usable, and it's hard to see why they should change the GUI just for the sake of changing it. I think it would be useful to have a live tile option, though, as long as it gave us options as to size, placement, etc.

That's exactly what they are doing.... they are not limited to the start menu. That is just a compromise for Enterprise users which is who this presentation and the announcement yesterday was directed at.

The consumer announcement and a more polished preview are expected in a few more months when they will tell you about the choice between tiles and a more traditional desk top.
 
I honestly thought this was a story from the Onion. They probably have a great reason for skipping 9, but for me skipping 9 just doesn't seem like a wise decision. Not that Microsoft is known for good decision making.
 
Within a few week of this being released, Windows 10 will have more users than OSX.

Apple would love to be in this position.

I'd like Apple to be in this position but windows is still alive and isn't going anywhere - no matter how many people on these forums predict the demise of Microsoft!

Apple will still present it as a % and boast a higher percentage of users switched than Windows 10.
 
Looks like Microsoft has addressed many of the complaints about 8. I'm particularly glad they fixed copying and pasting in the command prompt.
 
Spot on. That is what I always say on these forums, all OS systems have pros and cons.

There use to be a lot of the old guard on here that were former prisoners of microsoft, switched during some bad microsoft OS implementations and have not used windows 7 etc, but post that any Microsoft OS is crap based on old war wounds. They refuse to accept that microsoft can do a good OS.

The younger generation, I think it comes down to I'm too cool, owning a mac is so much cooler than a windows PC, Generation Y. Myself having gone through so many OS systems cannot understand how someone could think windows 7 as an OS is terrible, apart from having the wrong brand against it.

Windows 7, as great as it is, still suffers from the *need* to have anti-virus, anti-malware. I know. I know. OS X has seen its small share of trojans but, as a longtime user, I've never experienced a problem on Mac. Ever. And I've been to some seedy sites.

Also, many Windows users on MacRumors claim to have never gotten a virus and use nothing. That's HARD to believe.

Now, compare that to Windows 7 Professional running enterprise level Norton's which got malware from a website. This isn't some random anecdote (well, to *you* it is), but it happened to me personally at my last job. The website managed to push something to the computer and then the malware and Norton's kept canceling each other out and, by their very nature, auto-started. It was basically fighting with itself.

The admin said, "When enterprise level antivirus gets beaten, there's no sense in trying to clean the computer. We're better off reinstalling Windows."

I've had to reinstall the Mac OS less times since 1988, than many Windows users in a 2-3 year period. That's a sad fact.

So, as much as I like Windows 7 and run it in VirtualBox, there's nothing you can tell me about its security or stability (registry nonsense that still happens, like corrupt profiles) that tells me it's better than OS X. Windows wins on games... and that's it.
 
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