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I don't think this is about taste. Heck, even now as we speak some people prefer to use Linux with KDE...

I always did; gnome looks weird to me. Then again, I also vastly preferred Vista to XP...so maybe I'm just insane. :confused:
 
So they've added the same windowed-application function that's been in windows for 20 years, and they've adapted mission control...
 
Been a mac user since April 2013, and I can say that I like it but this windows looks like a good one. I'm probably one of the few who prefers windows over mac. I actually miss using windows. I decided to try mac because of the ecosystem and because of the aesthetics (yes, don't judge me). That's just me though.

Mobile and tab: apple

desktop: windows
 
new task view button. The new task view button on the task bar enables one view for all open apps and files, allowing for quick switching and one-touch access to any desktop created.

Multiple desktops. Instead of too many apps and files overlapping on a single desktop, it’s easy to create and switch between distinct desktops for different purposes and projects — whether for work or personal use.

About effing time!!
 
Slight change to name....

Introducing Windows 5th Element
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Multiple desktops... like... the feature Mac OSX has had for years? And all of the great new improvements are just normal old features they brought back. Fullscreen apps open the same way desktop apps do? Woah. Revolutionary.

How do PC users not recognize how far ahead of windows OSX is?

Oh for the love of God, Linux had multiple desktops before Apple.

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It actually looks really great this time. Pity it's not a free upgrade like we get!!

Pretty sure it is a free upgrade for Windows 8 users.
 
Call me crazy but that Start menu is a complete clusterf**k of bad UI. I always hated the slow Start menu and it can only host so much before branching off into a cascade of nested menus that take forever to navigate. Adding those Start tiles/apps to the menu and you've got one hell of a nightmarish-looking UI.

Getting rid of the Start menu and replacing it with the Launchpad-like Start screen was actually a GOOD idea. I like the Start screen in Windows 8.1 for the most part.

The problem with Windows 8 was never getting rid of apps from the Start menu, it was the schizophrenic application environment with terrible tablet-oriented "Metro" apps that completely took over your screen and wouldn't integrate with the regular desktop, and the fact that Windows seemed hell-bent on pushing desktop users into this environment with 8.0 before the inevitable public backlash saw them retreat somewhat with 8.1.

The built-in crappy Metro apps aside (which I never use) I like Windows 8.1 for the most part. No way I'll upgrade to 10 if that Start menu is anything to go by.

It just goes to show that Jobs and Apple were completely right when they decided to keep iOS and OS X separate and not make stupid combined tablet/laptop hybrids.
 
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So they are getting as bad as the IBM of the 80's, 'preannouncing' new products years in advance to keep their customers locked into their product line.

I remember the joke of the wedding night of an IBM salesman, he keeps telling his new wife how glorious sex will be in two years, when it ships...

IBM was in a fight for market share with Hitachi, Amdahl, Burroughs, and a handful of other companies. Microsoft's biggest competitor is itself and their really brain dead 'features' of their OS's... Well, and OSX, and LINUX.

Does anyone use straight UNIX anymore? Is there such a thing?

So, is to too early to call Windows 8.x a failure? 11% penetration? That's not even enough to get excited about. I think even Vista and Millennium Edition had more users. Well, those that would admit to having it...:p:D:eek::eek:

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Introducing Windows 5th Element
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Does it come with the chocolate syrup, or do we provide our own?
 
Microsoft did a great job putting that guy in the video.
Now everyone is talking or comparing him to various characters and Windows gets mentioned like pepper in a grilled fish.

Keeps conversation about Windows going :)
 
Since OSX is completely irrelevant on the enterprise desktop and totally non-existent in the data center, nobody really cares.

Agree, this is my experience as well.

I pick it up and ask the audience here:

WHEN OS X IS THAT GOOD AND WINDOWS IS THAT BAD, WHY ARE ENTERPRISE COMPANIES USING WINDOWS THEN ?

I personally never saw OS X in any business I have been ( technically ) involved. OS X is quite good, so why ?
 
Nice to see so many OS X features coming to Windows. I think Apple should copy the snapping concept although make sure it is optional. I have three large screens running Yosemite on a new Mac Pro but would appreciate snapping on occasions. I will try out 10 in a VMWare VM on the Mac Pro as I like to have every OS I can to test web site development.
 
Agree, this is my experience as well.

I pick it up and ask the audience here:

WHEN OS X IS THAT GOOD AND WINDOWS IS THAT BAD, WHY ARE ENTERPRISE COMPANIES USING WINDOWS THEN ?

I personally never saw OS X in any business I have been ( technically ) involved. OS X is quite good, so why ?

Cost of hardware, application development, and Microsoft's other major contributions to developing Enterprise services (including Exchange). Macs are pretty major among advertising agencies. Though even in ad agencies, there are still sections that use Windows (most media departments).
 
So they are getting as bad as the IBM of the 80's, 'preannouncing' new products years in advance to keep their customers locked into their product line.

I remember the joke of the wedding night of an IBM salesman, he keeps telling his new wife how glorious sex will be in two years, when it ships...

IBM was in a fight for market share with Hitachi, Amdahl, Burroughs, and a handful of other companies. Microsoft's biggest competitor is itself and their really brain dead 'features' of their OS's... Well, and OSX, and LINUX.

Does anyone use straight UNIX anymore? Is there such a thing?

So, is to too early to call Windows 8.x a failure? 11% penetration? That's not even enough to get excited about. I think even Vista and Millennium Edition had more users. Well, those that would admit to having it...:p:D:eek::eek:

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Does it come with the chocolate syrup, or do we provide our own?

There has to be a joke there about only 11% penetration .... Oh wait there was ... :D
 
So they are getting as bad as the IBM of the 80's, 'preannouncing' new products years in advance to keep their customers locked into their product line.

I remember the joke of the wedding night of an IBM salesman, he keeps telling his new wife how glorious sex will be in two years, when it ships...

IBM was in a fight for market share with Hitachi, Amdahl, Burroughs, and a handful of other companies. Microsoft's biggest competitor is itself and their really brain dead 'features' of their OS's... Well, and OSX, and LINUX.

Does anyone use straight UNIX anymore? Is there such a thing?

So, is to too early to call Windows 8.x a failure? 11% penetration? That's not even enough to get excited about. I think even Vista and Millennium Edition had more users. Well, those that would admit to having it...:p:D:eek::eek:

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Does it come with the chocolate syrup, or do we provide our own?

Yes, it's called Solaris and AIX. You can find it on servers beside mainframes.
 
I always did; gnome looks weird to me. Then again, I also vastly preferred Vista to XP...so maybe I'm just insane. :confused:

Not at all. That was exactly my point. When speaking of taste, to each his own. But everyone wants a consistent UI. Improving, yes. Going back and forth, though, is a no-go.
 
Agree, this is my experience as well.

I pick it up and ask the audience here:

WHEN OS X IS THAT GOOD AND WINDOWS IS THAT BAD, WHY ARE ENTERPRISE COMPANIES USING WINDOWS THEN ?

I personally never saw OS X in any business I have been ( technically ) involved. OS X is quite good, so why ?

Windows is supported for 10 years. OS X is supported for what? Even at its height, with each version coming out every 18 months, and them supporting two versions back .... 36 months? Enterprise doesn't move that fast.
 
Not at all. That was exactly my point. When speaking of taste, to each his own. But everyone wants a consistent UI. Improving, yes. Going back and forth, though, is a no-go.

It's especially hard when you have kept the same consistent features of the OS for decades, and then overnight throw your users into the caldron of whatever Windows 8 was.

It also helps 'penetration' when the leaders of the project all 'leave' the company...:eek::D

I can see that penetration jokes are going to be popular again...:p:D
 
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