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Microsoft has shunned USB-C from its new laptop, what does that mean for the future and for MacBook?

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As pretty much everyone knows when Apple released its latest MacBook Pro, there were people outraged that it had dropped ports and was focusing on USB-C

Microsoft, on the other hand, seems to be betting that USB-C will NOT pickup steam soon and instead is sticking with traditional ports for its new laptop.

What does this mean for the future?

What if Microsoft wins the "port war" and Apple brings back traditional ports?
 
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I don't think it will matter that much

USB-C is catching on in general, quite well. One MS laptop, for one generation (possibly more but that remains to be seen) however popular it may be, won't stop this standardized port from increasing in general adoption
 
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What it means that Microsoft are cheap ***, trying to have higher margins than Apple ever had. Its simply a money making strategy. They price their laptop as premium range while using lower-end, cheaper components.

And while it might further slow down the adoption of USB-C, nothing changes the fact that USB-C is the new official USB port and the industry is slowly but surely moving everything to it.
 
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turbineseaplane said:
The problem I have with USB-C is largely that I work in the "now" and the "now" is not USB-C for the most part.

One day I'll be excited about it, but not at this time.
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Dang that sucks!

I slapped two adapters on the two peripherals I use, am used to it from rMB since around launch, and now have a nifty Nintendo Switch I piggyback charges off of my apple chargers

woo
 
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To be honest i think it means what it always does, Apple removes something from a device, there is controversy people complain, people buy the devices then later realise it's not too bad and then a couple of years down the line the cycle starts over again.
I do understand why some people are annoyed that Apple removed ports from the MacBook Pro an even the 12" MacBook when it was first announced, but i do think Apple see the future as wireless the only problem is the rest of the industry isn't that far a head in terms of peripherals that people use on these devices which results in people using dongles. Give it more time an it will probably become a standard resulting in other companies (such as Microsoft) also making the leap.
 
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leman said:
What it means that Microsoft are cheap ***, trying to have higher margins than Apple ever had. Its simply a money making strategy. They price their laptop as premium range while using lower-end, cheaper components.

And while it might further slow down the adoption of USB-C, nothing changes the fact that USB-C is the new official USB port and the industry is slowly but surely moving everything to it.
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Microsoft asked it's users, simple as that...

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Doesn't mean anything...both USBC & old ports will still coexist for a while.
 
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Dave245 said:
I do understand why some people are annoyed that Apple removed ports from the MacBook Pro an even the 12" MacBook when it was first announced, but i do think Apple see the future as wireless the only problem is the rest of the industry isn't that far a head in terms of peripherals that people use on these devices which results in people using dongles.
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The major outcry was the complete disregard of old preipherials when releasing new the new MBP. USB-A to USB-C is a transition periode, and Apple acted as if it didn't matter. But for professionals, it certainly did matter, as they have an USB-A based ecosystem and has had it for many years and the vast majority didn't want to shell out $$$ buying dongles. Heck, some things are still really hard to find, as there are almost no producers. Just try to find out how many produce USB-C mice and keyboards.

In reality, a MBP similar to the old model, but with half of the USB-A ports transitioned into TB3 ports instead would have made everyone happy, and Apple could then switch to a complete USB-C lineup in the next model. Or, gasp, Apple could do more regular updates to their products so people wouldn't be forced to buy 2 year old technology at over-the-top prices.
 
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Hieveryone said:
What does this mean for the future?
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It means makers like Apple, Dell, HP , etc are using USB-C and Microsoft isn't. Why read more into something that is not there.

Hieveryone said:
What if Microsoft wins the "port war" and Apple brings back traditional ports?
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lol, there are no port wars. MS made a decision that they went with a legacy port over the future. I don't know why, but I do question their logic just because it is the future.
 
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T'hain Esh Kelch said:
The major outcry was the complete disregard of old preipherials when releasing new the new MBP. USB-A to USB-C is a transition periode, and Apple acted as if it didn't matter. But for professionals, it certainly did matter, as they have an USB-A based ecosystem and has had it for many years and the vast majority didn't want to shell out $$$ buying dongles. Heck, some things are still really hard to find, as there are almost no producers. Just try to find out how many produce USB-C mice and keyboards.

In reality, a MBP similar to the old model, but with half of the USB-A ports transitioned into TB3 ports instead would have made everyone happy, and Apple could then switch to a complete USB-C lineup in the next model. Or, gasp, Apple could do more regular updates to their products so people wouldn't be forced to buy 2 year old technology at over-the-top prices.
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So, sometimes I think we forget how business works (me included). At some point Apple has to say, ok so we release this MacBook Pro or wait until xyz conditions are satisfied? They can't do everything, so they have to make some choices. Releasing it before they upgraded everything else seemed to be the choice they made. What if they had not released a new MacBook Pro at all?
 
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smallcoffee said:
So, sometimes I think we forget how business works (me included).
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You actually think that Apple would have earned less money by releasing the model I proposed above?

At some point Apple has to say, ok so we release this MacBook Pro or wait until xyz conditions are satisfied? They can't do everything, so they have to make some choices.
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Of course not. But my example would have still have catered to both Apple and the consumers.

Releasing it before they upgraded everything else seemed to be the choice they made. What if they had not released a new MacBook Pro at all?
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I think we can stay away from hypothetical scenarios that would never have happened.
 
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leman said:
What it means that Microsoft are cheap ***, trying to have higher margins than Apple ever had. Its simply a money making strategy. They price their laptop as premium range while using lower-end, cheaper components.

And while it might further slow down the adoption of USB-C, nothing changes the fact that USB-C is the new official USB port and the industry is slowly but surely moving everything to it.
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It's not a device for high price margins but more for a reference for windows 10s and geeks who can afford it like buying bottle water to mess around with. Windows 10s is similar to windows 8 RT in essence. At least that is what I gathered about windows 10S
 
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So that means those users are far behind of what usb-c/TB3 means
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Or no practical device supports USB C like mice and so forth. I just bought a new mouse the logitech mx master which I know has bluetooth but I use the receiver which is USB A not USB C. The charger that came with my phone is not USB C as well nor do I feel the need to buy a special cable to use USB C when my iPhone doesn't gain anything from it. Also no car that I know of has a USB C port. Also if we want to start talking about USB C as the next standard Apple better use it instead of making us buy these over priced lightning cables.... Even Anker branded cables are usually around 2-3 dollars more than the micro USB cable of the same length. Also goes for USB C ones as well.



Also apparently being silenced because I'm no Apple fanboy who solely thinks Apple is the best ( far from it)
 
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Closingracer said:
Or no practical device supports USB C like mice and so forth. I just bought a new mouse the logitech mx master which I know has bluetooth but I use the receiver which is USB A not USB C. The charger that came with my phone is not USB C as well nor do I feel the need to buy a special cable to use USB C when my iPhone doesn't gain anything from it. Also no car that I know of has a USB C port. Also if we want to start talking about USB C as the next standard Apple better use it instead of making us buy these over priced lightning cables.... Even Anker branded cables are usually around 2-3 dollars more than the micro USB cable of the same length. Also goes for USB C ones as well.



Also apparently being silenced because I'm no Apple fanboy who solely thinks Apple is the best ( far from it)
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so to have usb-c along side with usb-a is far worse than no usb-c? come on..like i said those users were high. If microsoft asked here, we would opt for both to have
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maflynn said:
Yes, and business users are even further back. I have work PCs that still come with PS/2 style ports.
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Depends on the business. thank god i moved on. I will replace all of my devices when the new imac is released
 
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