Is it trademarked? I didn't see any "tm" (R) or trademark notices on their website.
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Microsoft Hires Linguist to Oppose Apple's 'App Store' Trademark
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Is it trademarked? I didn't see any "tm" (R) or trademark notices on their website.
Maybe they should trademark "The App Store" then. I don't think that would be a problem.
For the love of God. Is this ignorance going to continue and continue! I suggest you read the entire thread and all the past threads related to topic. Microsoft has not trademarked "Windows" or "Word" for that matter in the matter you are trying to present it.
which goes back to a point I made earilier. I have friends who use android and know people who WP7. They all say THE APP STORE when talking about apps they got. Difference is the the app store is complete relevant to which phone they are on.
Because Mac OS and Windows aren't windows, they're Operating Systems. The average person won't call them windows so its slightly different. Even so I don't see the fuss with app store being a trademark. It's the content that matters to me, not the name.
My 5 Cents
Sorry everyone that supports the Microsoft side but you are wrong. When you goto Start on a PC how to you get to you "Applications"? Thats right you click a boring and never changing 2 words "All Programs"
However when you open up finder and look you will see something called Applications. Now prior to there being iPhones, I never not once heard the term App. Period never, and remember people had Crack Berries back then and really terrible Palm Pilots running Mobile Windows OS, again not using apps but running programs.
When Apple released the iPhone it single handedly created the Term App and that is fine and dandy; I do not believe Apple is suing anyone for using just the word App, Andriod, Blackberry, Etc all use this term now on their non iOS devices. But the Term "App Store" is clearly Apple and any one that says they think of Blackberries, WP7, or Androids are just lying or they could have been born yesterday.
Considering everything that Windows is, and MS for that matter, tries to emulate Mac atmosphere, process and function; except it just does not work. Sorry Microsoft, you missed the spaceship (Future Bus) and will probably never catch up.
Those that are saying Apple needs to stop all of this suing and get back to forward thinking products, clearly lives under a rock or was born yesterday. Examples just to name a few and not including the fact that they all work together like "Mac and Cheese" (Another great example of a generic term): Ipad 2, 2011 MPBs, 2010 Macbook Airs, ATV2 and the list goes on forever.
Great comment on General Electric, maybe we should force them to change their name to "Energy Consuming and Producing Products Maker for the Medical, Technology, Agriculture, Business, and All other Industries Company" Or in Short ECPPMMTABAIC.
Sorry everyone that supports the Microsoft side but you are wrong. When you goto Start on a PC how to you get to you "Applications"? Thats right you click a boring and never changing 2 words "All Programs"
However when you open up finder and look you will see something called Applications. Now prior to there being iPhones, I never not once heard the term App. Period never, and remember people had Crack Berries back then and really terrible Palm Pilots running Mobile Windows OS, again not using apps but running programs.
When Apple released the iPhone it single handedly created the Term App and that is fine and dandy; I do not believe Apple is suing anyone for using just the word App, Andriod, Blackberry, Etc all use this term now on their non iOS devices. But the Term "App Store" is clearly Apple and any one that says they think of Blackberries, WP7, or Androids are just lying or they could have been born yesterday.
Considering everything that Windows is, and MS for that matter, tries to emulate Mac atmosphere, process and function; except it just does not work. Sorry Microsoft, you missed the spaceship (Future Bus) and will probably never catch up.
Those that are saying Apple needs to stop all of this suing and get back to forward thinking products, clearly lives under a rock or was born yesterday. Examples just to name a few and not including the fact that they all work together like "Mac and Cheese" (Another great example of a generic term): Ipad 2, 2011 MPBs, 2010 Macbook Airs, ATV2 and the list goes on forever.
Great comment on General Electric, maybe we should force them to change their name to "Energy Consuming and Producing Products Maker for the Medical, Technology, Agriculture, Business, and All other Industries Company" Or in Short ECPPMMTABAIC.
A search on the US trademarks and patents office throws up this: http://tarr.uspto.gov/servlet/tarr?regser=serial&entry=79019298
I'm thinkin' Apple should have gone with "iApp Store" (u heard it here FIRST! Let me get a trademark/patent on that) b/c Microsoft is just a big ole' COPYCAT...lol
But didn't the whole "i" fad die when everyone started pissing on it with their sub-par products? Oh and I wish I was in your university and city dude, I'm so jealous!
Because they want to ride on the wave of success that Apple created with the "App Store" ... they want to reuse the 'name recognition' that Apple created with their huge success. That is much cheaper and easier than establishing a new name.
BUT: I still think every company should give up all trivial/generic trademark names (including MS) - and if you own any don't sue others for having any. Set an example, give up your generic trademarks, than you can try to force others to do the same.
I agree, very well said.
Besides if Apple was not the paranoid company they & their fanboys are, they'd wake up and realize the benefits of not freaking out over it.
1) It's a compliment to Apples choice of turning the generic "app store" phrase into something that comes to mind & relates to Apple when it's said.
2) If we're talking "cars" and I say "service department", everyone envisions the same thing no matter the manufacturer.
3) In turn as in #2, when saying "app store" no matter what smartphone we're discussing, all enthusiasts will immediately think of Apple's masterful job they've done with theirs. They will immediately think of a store that sells smartphone apps.
4) Apple's a great company. I've been a huge supporter and honestly own tens of thousands of dollars of their computers, phones, pods, pads, and related gear. I'm not bragging about what I own, I'm making a point. I may be very outspoken about the egotistical & narcissistic way Jobs acts, and in turn is woven into the company culture, but I'm loyal and very enthusiastic about most of their products.
Apples success speaks for itself. Why fanboys and company are so compelled to act like Apples struggling is beyond me.
The bottom line? Give Apple the credit they deserve for their app store, yet share the phrase freely with others.
Or reinforce the distaste and hate many have for Apple's attitude, NOT their products.
Then you should probably stay away from this topic.
Sigh. Besides the fact that "app" was in use starting a couple of decades ago, it was definitely being used for mobile programs long before Apple did.
For example, this 2005 article about Blackberry software starts out with:
They go on to use "apps" almost a dozen times in that article.
Those of you who are debating how long "apps" has been in use, are wasting your time and, worse, everyone else's. The rest of the people in this thread know that "app" was a common term already.
The discussion is over "app store", not "app" itself. Thanks.
App has been a generic term for decades. Get over it APPle.
Maybe they should call it APP Le Store.
Maybe they should call it APP Le Store.
I don't know what that means.
If they do in fact have a trademark on TV SHOP, they are doing a VERY poor job of protecting it. It would be great if someone could fing the logo or the name with a TM next to it because I have not been able to.
Here are some abusers (if in fact they do have a trademark):
http://americatvshop.com/
http://albany.citysearch.com/profile/40909606/clifton_park_ny/tv_shop.html
http://tvshopinc.com/coupon
http://www.tvshopsa.com/
http://thetv-shop.com/
http://charlottetvshop.com/services.html
http://www.markosweb.com/www/tv-shop.tv/
http://local.yahoo.com/info-14632165-tv-shop-dunnellon
http://www.manta.com/c/mmjmc97/tv-shop
http://www.asseenontvshop.net/
http://www.superpages.com/bp/Fredericksburg-VA/TV-Shop-L0122837830.htm
Am I the only one who still remembers that APP STORE originally was a shortened version of APPLET STORE, not APPLICATION STORE?
Way back when Apple announced the programs were coming for the iPhone and iPod, they called them applets, not applications.
Way back when Apple announced the programs were coming for the iPhone and iPod, they called them applets, not applications.
So KDarling why is RIM not suing apple, Clearly they have a better case than MS.
Must have missed that great article by Yardena Arar of PC world.
Must have missed that great article by Yardena Arar of PC world.
Trademarks are always based on a context (my apologies for the non legal terms). For instance the "TV Shop" trademark is owned for any televised home shopping. For instance, QVC couldn't now call themselves "TV Shop". So all those examples wouldn't be infringing on their trademark. Just like if Apple owned "App Store". I could open a shop selling fruit called "App Store".
geez hope apple would be able to keep the name since it's a big success.
ms is just jealous and pissed for apple being smart
ms is just jealous and pissed for apple being smart
butters lol
not smart thinking by M$. How is one supposed to be taken seriously with a name like Butters.
not smart thinking by M$. How is one supposed to be taken seriously with a name like Butters.
So what you are saying is that "TV SHOP" is not a shop that sells tv's. Therefore it is not descriptive and is not pertinent to the discussions.
TV Shop is *not* a tv shop (it is a cable shopping network)
App Store *is* an app store.
