I agree. I have been running Open Office on my Mac for two years now and find no reason to turn back. I can export to many different formats, the suite is regularly updated and most of all, it is free! Office software has become a commodity and almost a public resource these days.
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I agree. I have been running Open Office on my Mac for two years now and find no reason to turn back. I can export to many different formats, the suite is regularly updated and most of all, it is free! Office software has become a commodity and almost a public resource these days.
1. Macrumors always has front page stories about mac software. There's a post about Pixelmator that's up now, and often they run stories about Adobe products, and when AutoCAD came back to the mac, AutoCAD.
2. That's typical for software release cycles. A new product comes out, followed by a demo a few months later. This gets the early adopters who need the newest software to buy it instead of demoing it. Most games work the same way, such as Starcraft 2.
A couple of times? DOH!
You obviously aren't a professional then. I love Pages (loath open office. Too clunky and junky and it really isn't uber compatible to be trusted. Fine for someone like this poster that is not a professional.) for personal use, but I could never send my boss a a document I made in pages or even a spreadsheet from numbers. The few occasions I used numbers to make something with some pop to it, I had to send it out to everyone as a PDF so they could open and print it. That's all they could do with it! Sending it as an .xls would destroy the look.
Appleworks actually played better with Office than iWork does.
The people who don't get it are the ones who probably think it would be cool to show up to a business meeting with a spider man back pack instead of a briefcase of sassy messenger bag. If you don't have a job where you work with documents, you could probably easily skip Office. Though I'd still want to use a more professional app for college papers. I welcome improvements to office 11 and compatibility improvements and collaborative features that will save me from my work pc at home. I never see a reason to upgrade to each new version, but this one looks like it has potential. Like that I can try it before I commit.
Is this Office 2011? Because it runs fine on the core duo (not core duo 2!) 2GB macbook I've installed it on. Previous versions of Office for Mac were awful, but I just don't see the horrible implementation you refer to.
And after having read the rest of your post - are you just slating MS for the hell of it? I honestly think a large number of the people criticising it here haven't actually tried it and are just basing their opinions on previous versions of Office for Mac. That's like my friend who commented on me buying a mac, saying "You can't even right click on them" and comparing them to Vista machines (This was before Windows 7) - only mac he has tried was the iMac G3.
Hey, I love iWork too, but see if office crashes, it has this lovely auto save feature. (circa 1992). When I reopen the app, my documents come back from the grave.
iWork is a crematorium for your documents and just goes *poof*
When you're doing any serious work, you're generally too involved to spam command-s.
And iWork does indeed go *poof* at times.
Excel 2011 crashed 3 times within 10 minutes on me yesterday - I kid you not.
Funny, on those 3 crashes yesterday, my work went *poof*...
Whatever people hype about it: It is still a piece of cr@p. Now I hope that Apple gets its act together and brings out iWork 2011. Please.
Funny, on those 3 crashes yesterday, my work went *poof*...
Whatever people hype about it: It is still a piece of cr@p. Now I hope that Apple gets its act together and brings out iWork 2011. Please.
Got the MS Office 2011 when i purchased my iMac.. it's great to have it since I'm mostly using Word and Excel files at work.
But then how come Mac gets MS 2011 whereby Windows has MS 2010?
But then how come Mac gets MS 2011 whereby Windows has MS 2010?
I agree, iWorks has way better Soccer Team templates, and better.....ermm...
This version of Office for Mac is great!
I agree.
Plus It's about time that this was released as a 30 day trial.
Excel 2011 crashed 3 times within 10 minutes on me yesterday - I kid you not.
Funny, on those 3 crashes yesterday, my work went *poof*...
Whatever people hype about it: It is still a piece of cr@p. Now I hope that Apple gets its act together and brings out iWork 2011. Please.
What qualifications do you have to determine whether it's a piece of crap? As far as we know, your abused and poorly maintained system was the cause of the crashes.
Excel 2011 crashed 3 times within 10 minutes on me yesterday - I kid you not.
Funny, on those 3 crashes yesterday, my work went *poof*...
Whatever people hype about it: It is still a piece of cr@p. Now I hope that Apple gets its act together and brings out iWork 2011. Please.
Well iWork doesn't autosave (at least, Pages doesn't for sure when it lost a paper I was writing at 2am twice in 1 hours). I've only had Office crash with massive track changes on a document.
Theres no reason to get iwork unless
a) you need to save money
b) you can't operate Microsoft office
c) you really enjoy keeping .pages files AND .doc files
d) you think its funny when people get your documents with wrong formatting, or you can't use their track changes
e) the only person who works on your documents is you and iWork folk
But Office for Windows is still better. The Mac version kept both the ribbon and the toolbar, but far greater gains could have been made by eliminating the former. (Of course, OS X pretty much dictates that the menu bar remain.)
Then there are some UI oddities: the zoomer in the scroll bar doesn't easily snap to logical values (100%), making it hard to get back to a normal zoom level after changing. I'm sure the added functionality in Outlook is nice, though (I still use Mail and iCal for accessing my Exchange account at home, but I've given it a try), and it is good to have Communicator for the Mac available.
Better luck with Office 2014 or 2015, maybe.
But then how come Mac gets MS 2011 whereby Windows has MS 2010?
Because that's what they decided to call them? They're slightly different products, anyway, and the roughly corresponding Mac version has been released about a year later than the Windows version for the last few release cycles, at least (2004, 2008, 2011--compare 2003, 2007, 2010).
Syncing
It's a shame that you still cannot sync Outlook with iCal. This makes it pretty useless in my opinion. They've had plenty of time and 2 updates to fix it which means they're probably not doing it for some internal reason. Stick with Entourage.
It's a shame that you still cannot sync Outlook with iCal. This makes it pretty useless in my opinion. They've had plenty of time and 2 updates to fix it which means they're probably not doing it for some internal reason. Stick with Entourage.
I'm surprised by how good this demo is. I like it better than 2010 on Windows, and it seems quite a bit nicer. Outlook is great (though I am waiting for that iCal sync). I will probably pick this up now, it is so far superior to iWork and OO for actual professional work. Nice job!
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I would have to assume the majority of people bashing office and praising iwork are college kids or consumers making hockey schedules.
That's all great, and I like pages for personal items, but in the real world of business it's office or nothing. I need 100% compatibility and pages sometimes works but numbers is terrible.
Edit please stop using the M$ abbreviation meme its been dead for a long time. And apple has more money now anyway, there is no underdog.
I would have to assume the majority of people bashing office and praising iwork are college kids or consumers making hockey schedules.
That's all great, and I like pages for personal items, but in the real world of business it's office or nothing. I need 100% compatibility and pages sometimes works but numbers is terrible.
Edit please stop using the M$ abbreviation meme its been dead for a long time. And apple has more money now anyway, there is no underdog.
Microsoft bumped me again Or was I a stupid customer?
My father followed my suite and switched to a Mac. He doesn't speak English so having Mac OS X and iTunes, iMovies, iPhoto being able to "speak" in Russian out of the box was just great. The only thing he missed was Microsoft Office which he used to during his job (now he is retired).
So I read about how the new MS Office 2011 for Mac is great and that Microsoft has added Russian language [ here: http://www.microsoft.com/presspass/press/2010/aug10/08-02msmacofficepr.mspx ], I decided to bite the bullet and bought it.
Since I live in Singapore I went to a store and purchased it. Installed on my father's computer and BAH! No Russian language. I wrote email to Microsoft support and they basically told me that "MS Office is also supported in Russian language" but if I bought English version they can't do anything. Since I can't return it does anybody know if I can do anything about it? Like downloading Russian language pack and adding to my version or anything except wasting 200+ sin dollars?
My father followed my suite and switched to a Mac. He doesn't speak English so having Mac OS X and iTunes, iMovies, iPhoto being able to "speak" in Russian out of the box was just great. The only thing he missed was Microsoft Office which he used to during his job (now he is retired).
So I read about how the new MS Office 2011 for Mac is great and that Microsoft has added Russian language [ here: http://www.microsoft.com/presspass/press/2010/aug10/08-02msmacofficepr.mspx ], I decided to bite the bullet and bought it.
Since I live in Singapore I went to a store and purchased it. Installed on my father's computer and BAH! No Russian language. I wrote email to Microsoft support and they basically told me that "MS Office is also supported in Russian language" but if I bought English version they can't do anything. Since I can't return it does anybody know if I can do anything about it? Like downloading Russian language pack and adding to my version or anything except wasting 200+ sin dollars?
Always? How could that be? iWork is relatively new product. Maybe you are 12 years old and television has always been High Definition too?
Really?
Well, as far as I know, my abused and poorly maintained systems seems to work fine with Non-MS Software. That should be enough as far as qualifications are concerned. But hey, if you insist, I am an Airline Pilot with some decent technical knowledge and a Masters Degree in Computer Information Technology I am not saying the present iWork is perfect but I think it is decent software for the money you pay.
The only thing, I did yesterday in Excel was (in a large spreadsheet) to copy "A-330" from one cell to 5 other cells. I had the impression that this should be a fairly easy task and shouldn't require any training of some sort of "to operate MS Office"
And try opening or saving heavily formatted large .doc files with MS Word on a MAC which were generated on (maybe an older version) MS Word on a PC. You know, files with lots of Pictures and graphics in it - or vice versa. What a fun experience that is.
Not exactly sure if Office handles this task much better than iWork. Maybe a bit. But not much.
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He hates Microsoft, just like most people on here. That's as qualified as you need to be to spout rubbish about their products on MR.
Personally I think Office 2011 is a great advancement over the previous versions of Office For Mac. It's absolutely nowhere near as good as the Windows equivalent, and it never will be either. But Microsoft should be commended for the rewrite: it's faster, macros are back, the interface is improved, and it's the most full-featured office suite available for the Mac.
For those interested in trying the software, I suggest you go read reviews by respected tech journalists like Walt Mossberg for a fair and balanced opinion on the product.
He hates Microsoft, just like most people on here. That's as qualified as you need to be to spout rubbish about their products on MR.
Nope, I am not hating Microsoft. But maybe I have just higher standards and expectations in a software than you.