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What are u talking about?? I was all set to buy one of these bands, my biggest gripe is I still have to wear my phone while working out. Second is inaccurate readings while in motion.

None of that contradicts what I said. I made a supply/demand argument. I really know nothing about the device itself, and I don't have to know about it in order to say why it is sold out..
 
Such as?



"It's so intuitive, Apple will even teach you how to use it!"

:)

Edit: As for not talking about the experience, it's because Microsoft has realized what the rest of us knew for the past couple years. If you're a normal user, neither OS will be a bad choice. They'll both work for you.

Such as the OS itself.
 
You are showing your fanboy tendencies. What about the Yoga portion when a user uses the tablet function? Since Windows 10 looks like 7 what will the Current Yogas users be able to upgrade?

How is that fanboy tendencies? I didn't say Windows is the bestest ever, or Apple sucks, or anything. Just stated a fact.

Windows 10 still has the touch based UI in there, it's just better separated now, and set to a function depending on the orientation of the device. Like if it's set up in laptop mode, it'll give you the desktop with the oldschool start menu. If you fold it back, it'll convert to a more touch friendly UI.
 
None of that contradicts what I said. I made a supply/demand argument. I really know nothing about the device itself, and I don't have to know about it in order to say why it is sold out..
So in your opnion its flying off the shelves?
 
The Lenovo runs Windows. I don't care many Windows users on MacRumors claim they've never gotten a virus. They're either lying or they're in the EXTREME minority.

It's more a case that some people like to overhype the virus issues on Windows for some reason or another. They'll always go "LOOK! HERE'S A LIST OF THE 50 KABILLION VIRUSES ON WINDOWS", thinking you can get any one of those at any given moment while browsing the internet on Windows. They're disregarding the fact that 99.99999999% of those viruses have long since been patched out, and Windows is no longer vulnerable to them. Some people running an old version of XP that's never been updated might catch some random thing that's still floating around on old websites, but people running even a lackadaisically updated version of 7 or 8 won't. It's not lying. It's a simple fact.

These days, you get malware on Windows in much the same way you'd get them on a Mac. You're either tricked into installing them yourself, or they slip into your system through a 3rd party plugin, like Java or Flash.
 
It's more a case that some people like to overhype the virus issues on Windows for some reason or another. They'll always go "LOOK! HERE'S A LIST OF THE 50 KABILLION VIRUSES ON WINDOWS", thinking you can get any one of those at any given moment while browsing the internet on Windows. They're disregarding the fact that 99.99999999% of those viruses have long since been patched out, and Windows is no longer vulnerable to them. Some people running an old version of XP that's never been updated might catch some random thing that's still floating around on old websites, but people running even a lackadaisically updated version of 7 or 8 won't. It's not lying. It's a simple fact.

These days, you get malware on Windows in much the same way you'd get them on a Mac. You're either tricked into installing them yourself, or they slip into your system through a 3rd party plugin, like Java or Flash.

Thank you for this. I have never gotten a virus on any of my windows PCs since high school. I am using a surface pro 3 now and the built in windows defender is all that is needed. I however use the internet responsibly.

Now I work IT and we do the get "cryptolocker" virus that always originates from the teachers computers because they go to all sorts of shady websites and click any and everthing in the name of education material. sighs...Or it comes from email attachments.
 
Tried to put too much in it. Be something for everyone. Basically too heavy, too many bits and pieces and bloated.



There's a difference between listening and a world wide suggestion box. Or don't you think so? Apple have been accused for a long time of not listening. They have also been lauded for giving people want they didn't know they wanted. And succeeded time and again. Example: iPhone. We knew we wanted a smartphone, but they didn't go and ask everyone how to do it. They did it themselves and look what we have now, from iOS to Droid to Windows etc (and all of the phablets, tablets and bad experience hybrids).



I suspect many of those hundreds of millions you mention haven't seriously tried OS X, but you may be right, they all may have tried it.



Your opinion. Hundreds of millions disagree :(

OSX doesn't have hundreds of millions of users. :eek:
 
I am not a big fan of hybrids, but I do think the Yoga's form factor is interesting and has some potential. My neighbor just got one, and I was playing around with it the other day. The touch screen is useless to me when in the laptop position, but when folded into the tent or tablet positions, the touch interface has some merit. For a device this large, you will probably not hold it for very long when in tablet mode, so you need to use your lap or a table.

I would be interested to see Apple develop a retina display laptop that runs OS X in laptop mode, then switches to iOS when folded into the tent or tablet positions. With cloud storage and handoff, there might be a way to make the experience pretty seamless when moving between modes/operating systems.
 
Edit: As for not talking about the experience, it's because Microsoft has realized what the rest of us knew for the past couple years. If you're a normal user, neither OS will be a bad choice. They'll both work for you.

Yes they will. Question is, what is easier to use and for what purposes? And that comes directly back to the experience. My experience with a hybrid is that they are damned confusing to use (for me). W8.1 has an annoying metro interface (for me) which means it a bad experience (for me).
 
Yes they will. Question is, what is easier to use and for what purposes? And that comes directly back to the experience. My experience with a hybrid is that they are damned confusing to use (for me). W8.1 has an annoying metro interface (for me) which means it a bad experience (for me).

And that is all that should matter to you, your experience. I can say what I think the average user will dat all day, and I still believe it is true, but if it didn't work for you it doesn't matter. People should just be happy with their choice.
 
Microsoft wants you to buy something running Windows. It's like Google plugging a non-Nexus Android device. Throw the other hardware partners a bone, because the hardware isn't your main biz.
Googles Android business model isn't working either. Hardware is the main business. At least Windows isn't for free, so if Lenovo makes $1500, Microsoft earns a few dollars too.
Partnership. Look it up.
Harmful Self-Competition. Look it up. If Surface Pro fails because this add succeeds in pushing the Yoga, than Microsoft has lost a possible future as an integrated hardware and software company (with Apple-like profit margins).
 
Googles Android business model isn't working either. Hardware is the main business. At least Windows isn't for free, so if Lenovo makes $1500, Microsoft earns a few dollars too.
Harmful Self-Competition. Look it up. If Surface Pro fails because this add succeeds in pushing the Yoga, than Microsoft has lost a possible future as an integrated hardware and software company (with Apple-like profit margins).

Satya said that hardware isn't part of their "core business", so I think it's okay.
 
Satya said that hardware isn't part of their "core business", so I think it's okay.
It's not okay. Microsoft invested heavily in creating the Surface in order to make hardware one of their core businesses along with software and services. And now the Surface is going the way of the Zune. The same with Nokia, phones should have become a core business for Microsoft by now, but they aren't. Microsoft tries so hard to be much more than just Windows and Office and they fail every time.
 
It's not okay. Microsoft invested heavily in creating the Surface in order to make hardware one of their core businesses along with software and services. And now the Surface is going the way of the Zune. The same with Nokia, phones should have become a core business for Microsoft by now, but they aren't. Microsoft tries so hard to be much more than just Windows and Office and they fail every time.

No, Surface isn't going the way of the Zune. Satya did say he was going to continue to make the Surface, but it seems to be more of a testbed than anything else. I doubt they expect it to be their next billion dollar business or anything.
 
Googles Android business model isn't working either. Hardware is the main business. At least Windows isn't for free, so if Lenovo makes $1500, Microsoft earns a few dollars too.

Hardware is the main business for someone, but not for Google. The point was that these particular software companies have little concern for the hardware you buy so long as it runs their platform. Whether Android itself is a moneymaker for Google is irrelevant. Android devices, regardless of maker, have a good chance of getting users hooked on Google's services. Same goes for a Windows machine and Microsoft applications/services.

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No, Surface isn't going the way of the Zune. Satya did say he was going to continue to make the Surface, but it seems to be more of a testbed than anything else. I doubt they expect it to be their next billion dollar business or anything.

I think they've even publicly stated that they see Surface Pro as more of a template for the rest of the field to use when designing their own Win8 tablets. Now that the SP3 is selling reasonably well (especially in comparison to the dismal numbers from the first two) maybe the other makers will start to take some cues.
 
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No, Surface isn't going the way of the Zune. Satya did say he was going to continue to make the Surface, but it seems to be more of a testbed than anything else. I doubt they expect it to be their next billion dollar business or anything.
yes it is especially when it's being used as a kickstand

http://www.cultofmac.com/302105/cnn-hid-ipads-behind-microsoft-surface-mid-term-coverage/?utm_medium=twitter.com&utm_source=applenws.com
 
yes it is especially when it's being used as a kickstand

http://www.cultofmac.com/302105/cnn-hid-ipads-behind-microsoft-surface-mid-term-coverage/?utm_medium=twitter.com&utm_source=applenws.com

Satya has said they're not discontinuing the Surface.
 
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