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Good job everyone on jumping to conclusions.

a) Yupp, won't install, don't exist they make this change for everyone. All I mean is that even with this limited feature set most alternatives still trump MS Office's free mode. Except for compatibility maybe, but when we're talking about the limited feature set, I've personally seen iWork work well on that level.

b) I'm questioning the relevance of this change, not that they add something to something that's free.

c) I don't expect the full Office suite on my iPad for free. I don't have it and I have no intentions to get it. And I don't expect them to change their business model, which would be the requirement to getting me into buying it.
Won't rent Office, sorry Microsoft.

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In other words, your complaining about something that doesn't affect you at all.
 
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It's a pity that the Presenter mode for PowerPoint is still behind the paywall. I think this feature alone could put it more on par with Keynote for iOS.
 
Makes laptop less necessary

Something that hasn't been mentioned yet, but is critical in my case, is that these two changes (Dropbox integration and editing of Office docs) allow me to delay purchasing a MacBook Air and keep using my iPad and Bluetooth keyboard. I've been thinking hard about buying an MBA, but for the type of light Word, Excel, and Powerpoint uses I have, plus already having everything in Dropbox, this week's news makes my iPad/keyboard combo completely workable, and without even paying for the Office365 subscription. This is great!
 
It's a pity that the Presenter mode for PowerPoint is still behind the paywall. I think this feature alone could put it more on par with Keynote for iOS.
Actually the presenter mode was available in the previous free version of the iPad app. They took it away in this new version. :(

I get the impression that the feature set is carefully calculated to bait people into buying a subscription. They left out exactly the features that are most likely to be used in a tablet version of Office, like the presenter mode in Powerpoint (crucial when using the iPad to run a presentation), and the change tracking in word (which you need when reviewing documents on the iPad on the go).
 
Perhaps, but that doesn't really seem what the post I was replying to was referencing.



The point still stands since iWork apps be they on mobile or desktop don't really play well with Office documents.


Would you feel safe editing a critical Word doc with mobile Pages?
 
Of course, this is only good if the computer you are using will let you. I am forced to use government and company computers and they are so locked down that you can't download much more than the daily news from them, let alone iCloud documents from a web browser.

My condolences haha
 
I take it that Pages doesn't handle such large files as well as Word?

Honestly, I don't know. They have PC, so they're stuck between Microsoft and OpenOffice. And I haven't tried Word on OSX either (I know Word on Windows uses memory mapped files to handle large documents, which relies on the swap file mechanism and Intel CPU capabilities and works really well).

The problem with page is that it's a lightweight in features. Styles are pretty limited compared to Word, it lacks some of the advanced features you need when dealing with complex documents.
On the other hand, surprisingly few people know how to use Word correctly - really, I know a lot of corporate people who do not even know how to use styles correctly. So, I guess Page is sufficient for the needs of a lot of people. People who use a word processor just to send administrative letters or the like would find Page both capable enough and more ergonomic...
 
Apparently more than 90% of the world feels differently.

No 90% of the world is a slave to Microsoft because it is cost prohibitive to change the OS, change all their proprietary software, etc. just to get into something different. It costs a lot of money dealing with Microsoft's inability to produce a quality product as it is. A lot of employee time is wasted just fixing their computers on a weekly basis, but everyone is used to dealing with that to the point it has become the norm and no one thinks about it much.

Be a Microsoft apologist if you want, but at least be honest. Microsoft screwed up when they tried to go the way of Adobe with a subscription-based model and it blew up in their face. They tried to make Office exclusive to the Surface to entice people to buy their iPad knockoff. It didn't work. Now they are back-pedaling because Apple products are still flying out of the stores and someone finally realized they needed to start supporting other platforms better.
 
Great news, and its working great. I can and have opened up my spreadsheets on my iPhone 6+.

MS is really firing on all cylinders lately. Very happy with what's been coming out of redmond.
 
No 90% of the world is a slave to Microsoft because it is cost prohibitive to change the OS, change all their proprietary software, etc. just to get into something different. It costs a lot of money dealing with Microsoft's inability to produce a quality product as it is. A lot of employee time is wasted just fixing their computers on a weekly basis, but everyone is used to dealing with that to the point it has become the norm and no one thinks about it much.

Be a Microsoft apologist if you want, but at least be honest. Microsoft screwed up when they tried to go the way of Adobe with a subscription-based model and it blew up in their face. They tried to make Office exclusive to the Surface to entice people to buy their iPad knockoff. It didn't work. Now they are back-pedaling because Apple products are still flying out of the stores and someone finally realized they needed to start supporting other platforms better.

From what I understand Office subscriptions are a huge hit and making MS a lot of money. 7 million home and personal subs, that's not including enterprise customers. Personally I think the sub model is done very well. It's basically free when you factor in the cost of the cloud storage it provides, plus you get a ton of licenses for installation on a ton of pcs and tablets.

Office was never exclusive to the surface, heck its not even exclusive to windows. iOS got office before the mobile version of windows did, modern Office hasn't even been released yet!

I never understood MS haters, kind of like Samsung haters. Or people who don't think an office sub is an incredible value.
 
No 90% of the world is a slave to Microsoft because it is cost prohibitive to change the OS, change all their proprietary software, etc. just to get into something different. It costs a lot of money dealing with Microsoft's inability to produce a quality product as it is. A lot of employee time is wasted just fixing their computers on a weekly basis, but everyone is used to dealing with that to the point it has become the norm and no one thinks about it much.

Be a Microsoft apologist if you want, but at least be honest. Microsoft screwed up when they tried to go the way of Adobe with a subscription-based model and it blew up in their face. They tried to make Office exclusive to the Surface to entice people to buy their iPad knockoff. It didn't work. Now they are back-pedaling because Apple products are still flying out of the stores and someone finally realized they needed to start supporting other platforms better.

Clearly written by someone who has not used a Microsoft product in a long time. These past few years, Microsoft's products have improved dramatically. As a writer, I couldn't do it without Microsoft Word. Nothing else comes close. Office is by far the best and feature complete Office suite available. And Office 365 is incredible value for money.
 
Microsoft screwed up when they tried to go the way of Adobe with a subscription-based model and it blew up in their face. They tried to make Office exclusive to the Surface to entice people to buy their iPad knockoff. It didn't work. Now they are back-pedaling because Apple products are still flying out of the stores and someone finally realized they needed to start supporting other platforms better.

I think their income statement is going to disagree with you. Office 365 is a huge hit for MS, and seeing that success caused Adobe to embrace the subscription model (not the other way around). As for the SP, yes that was one of MS's failures, but the Surface Pro 3 on the other hand has been quite successful.

As I stated, MS is innovating and firing on all cylinders. You may disagree and that's your right but I don't think I'm slave to them, but rather a consumer picking the best tool for the job.
 
Can I use the apps without a Microsoft account or logging into something?

I will not use any apps that want me to create accounts, leave me alone with those stupid accounts.

I'm afraid it needs a free account in order to create a new Word document as I also noticed yesterday. I haven't created one yet and i don't know if I will. I also just want to use it out of the box without a new account.
 
No 90% of the world is a slave to Microsoft because it is cost prohibitive to change the OS, change all their proprietary software, etc. just to get into something different. It costs a lot of money dealing with Microsoft's inability to produce a quality product as it is. A lot of employee time is wasted just fixing their computers on a weekly basis, but everyone is used to dealing with that to the point it has become the norm and no one thinks about it much.

Be a Microsoft apologist if you want, but at least be honest. Microsoft screwed up when they tried to go the way of Adobe with a subscription-based model and it blew up in their face. They tried to make Office exclusive to the Surface to entice people to buy their iPad knockoff. It didn't work. Now they are back-pedaling because Apple products are still flying out of the stores and someone finally realized they needed to start supporting other platforms better.
I hear that War Thunder runs on Linux now. I have a Macbook and wonderful Windows desktop. Others just do not have that luxury.

I strongly suggest Office 365 to everyone regardless of platform. Productivity, cloud storage, and communication exist in one package.
 
I think their income statement is going to disagree with you. Office 365 is a huge hit for MS, and seeing that success caused Adobe to embrace the subscription model (not the other way around). As for the SP, yes that was one of MS's failures, but the Surface Pro 3 on the other hand has been quite successful.

As I stated, MS is innovating and firing on all cylinders. You may disagree and that's your right but I don't think I'm slave to them, but rather a consumer picking the best tool for the job.
I'd say that they're firing on 5 of the 6 cylinders. I'm reserving my "all cylinders" claim for when/if they release an updated version of Office for Mac. ;)
 
I'd say that they're firing on 5 of the 6 cylinders. I'm reserving my "all cylinders" claim for when/if they release an updated version of Office for Mac. ;)

They purposely hamstring that version so, I don't have high expectations and don't include that because its more of a business decision to limit the application then a technical or design issue.

All in all, I've been very happy with MS products of late. I see a company that is swinging for the fences in a lot of areas and is succeeding quite well imo.
 
They purposely hamstring that version so, I don't have high expectations and don't include that because its more of a business decision to limit the application then a technical or design issue.

All in all, I've been very happy with MS products of late. I see a company that is swinging for the fences in a lot of areas and is succeeding quite well imo.

New Microsoft might not do that.
 
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