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One thing I used to do but have gotten out of the habit of recently was clone my Windows partition to a little external drive after I did a big install and got everything ready to roll. If I ever had something blow up on me, I could run Gparted off a thumb drive, plug in the external, and copy everything over again in about a fraction of the time it'd take to install everything fresh.

But I've gotten computer lazy over the last couple of years, and my experimenting with Linux and Macs have shown me how things should be. Linux distros are almost always up to date when you grab one off the internet, and OSX rolls out point releases every so often. MS is the only one who doesn't provide updated releases. Yeah, you got the Service Pack updates, but they only come out every so often, and you can only get those if you have a key for them.

There's no excuse for that these days. If some little Linux distro can keep their OS up to date, MS can.

One of the worst is working with an old install disc of Vista with no service packs. It also will not update to the first service pack so I had to go find a copy of it and then continue with the new ending updates. You should be able to download newer installs of an OS you have the right to install. These never ending updates it a bit ridiculous because your install media is dated. (Thus why I created my own)
 
Completely satisfied where I am now - but thanks for the offer.

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That is one thing that can take forever. System reload to Windows 8 and then a ton of updates, then 8.1 and then more updates. Sure glad I was able to make a usb install of the current OS so I can avoid that in the future.

Don't forget the legendary "patch the patch" patch. Especially stuff like .net stuff - why do you have to install a patch, then the patch has to be patched? Its ridiculous that you have to go through two or three "check for updates" cycles and reboots to get everything up to date. Didn't MS ever hear of rolling patches up into a single fix?
 
I know, I'm glad Apple never did this, *cough* iOS 8.01 *cough*

That's not the same thing at all. I'm not talking about releasing a new patch to fix a bad one that sneaks out, every company has done that. I am talking about forcing you to install older patches first before you can install the new patch. Apple doesn't still require people updating from 8.00 to upgrade to 8.01 first before going to 8.02, does it? In Microsoft's world, they probably would.
 
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Don't forget the legendary "patch the patch" patch. Especially stuff like .net stuff - why do you have to install a patch, then the patch has to be patched? Its ridiculous that you have to go through two or three "check for updates" cycles and reboots to get everything up to date. Didn't MS ever hear of rolling patches up into a single fix?

Oh yeah, they do need to work on how everything updates.
 
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I know, I'm glad Apple never did this, *cough* iOS 8.01 *cough*

… and who could imagine a single update to Mac OS X appearing in two different forms (different builds) at the same page, one later than the other, with no explanation of why the first update was outdated by the second update with the same name *splutter*

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I'm not really defending Microsoft here but digital river carries a lot of the stuff you folks are talking about as a singl download. When I but my daughters gaming pc last month I downloaded SP 1 and updates put them on a thumb drive and installed them. There have been a few since then but nothing dramatic.
 
The biggest thing that REALLY annoys me on Windows at work while I'm using it is having to click on every window to tell Windows where you are so you can scroll. I'm just constantly having to click to scroll. And of course sometimes the click doesn't take or ends up highlighting instead or something if I'm in a hurry. And then sometimes you have to click just to get on your window, and then click again just to get the cursor to show in the defaulted text entry box. And from the IT people I've talked to, they say blame Microsoft for this.

Now granted our work computers have Windows 7, so I don't know if it's still the same in 8 or 8.1, but this issue alone irritates me enough that I would hesitate to buy a Windows computer at home.

It is, and yeah, that pisses me off too. There are programs you can grab that fix it, like AlwaysMouseWheel, but this is something that should be in Windows by default.

Hopefully MS will add it in for 10. They're pretty much fixing a lot of the problems with Windows and adding in the features I've always wanted with it, so...fingers crossed.


On the Window Start menu, type 'Ease' and select 'Ease of Access Center'. In the ease of access center, select 'Make the mouse easier to use'. Under the section 'Make it easier to manage windows' check the option 'Activate a windows by hovering over it with the mouse'

This it will select the window you are hovering over as the the active window that you can then scroll in. I personally hate this and would rather select the window I want to work with via a click, but I have several co-workers who love it. To each their own, hope it helps!
 
On the Window Start menu, type 'Ease' and select 'Ease of Access Center'. In the ease of access center, select 'Make the mouse easier to use'. Under the section 'Make it easier to manage windows' check the option 'Activate a windows by hovering over it with the mouse'

This it will select the window you are hovering over as the the active window that you can then scroll in. I personally hate this and would rather select the window I want to work with via a click, but I have several co-workers who love it. To each their own, hope it helps!

I'm trying this out and I may like it. However it's not quite the same behavior which you get by default on a Mac where you can scroll a window by hovering over it, without making it active, and without bringing it to the front.
 
They make some weak points in these ads, and "forget" to mention that a Macbook computer (with an Intel Processor) can run Windows 8.1 like a Surface Pro can (without the touch input capabilities).


I have been a Windows user for the last 13 years (and a Windows fan), but with the Windows 8 turnout (completely new interface which doesn't make sense on non-touch display computers) pushed me away from it.

Sure you can install 3rd party applications for the "old" Windows look, but Microsoft could have done that with 8.1 at least, and not wait for another Windows version release to put back in.
I think the only reason for people to upgrade form Windows 8 to Windows 10, is the return of the classic Windows look (With regards of Full Screen Apps & Multiple Desktops - the only notable "new" feature - They copied it from MAC OS X Mission Control and Ubuntu had the same facility some time ago too).

And the problems which Windows users face are endless.
I switched to MAC OS, and I see no reason in switching back to Windows in the near future.
 
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On the Window Start menu, type 'Ease' and select 'Ease of Access Center'. In the ease of access center, select 'Make the mouse easier to use'. Under the section 'Make it easier to manage windows' check the option 'Activate a windows by hovering over it with the mouse'

This it will select the window you are hovering over as the the active window that you can then scroll in. I personally hate this and would rather select the window I want to work with via a click, but I have several co-workers who love it. To each their own, hope it helps!

I was about to proclaim my undying love for you, and say I'd bear all your bastard children, but after activating with it, I feel like I have to temper my enthusiasm a bit.

It works alright, but I find it a little too intrusive with how it brings the window I'm hovering over to the forefront. I just want it to scroll. Nothing more.

Still, it's an interesting feature I didn't know about, so I'll say thanks for the heads up regardless.
 
I was about to proclaim my undying love for you, and say I'd bear all your bastard children, but after activating with it, I feel like I have to temper my enthusiasm a bit.

It works alright, but I find it a little too intrusive with how it brings the window I'm hovering over to the forefront. I just want it to scroll. Nothing more.

Still, it's an interesting feature I didn't know about, so I'll say thanks for the heads up regardless.

Agreed. I had to turn it off. The scrolling was nice. The fact that wherever I happened to hover my mouse for a second brought that Window to the front was not...
 
I'm genuinely curious, but how many people really use a laptop on their lap enough where this is an issue? Not saying it's not a need for some, but I think over the past 15 yeas or so of owning a laptop of some sort, I think I could limit that count on my two hands.

I use my MacBook Pro on my lap all the time. My iPad can actually be a bit awkward to use when lounging.
 
I use my MacBook Pro on my lap all the time. My iPad can actually be a bit awkward to use when lounging.

I do a lot of traveling and use my laptop on my lap in airports all the time.

Fair enough. Airport usage was actually one of the times I thought the lap was still beneficial, but even then there are now so many places in terminals or lounges to place your laptop. Regardless, I'll concede lap usage is still viable, but not nearly tho the degree people around here claim it to be.
 
I would give it away to someone I know if Microsoft gave it to me for free.
My iPad and Macbook Air meet my needs perfectly

Presumably you'd give it away to someone you don't like very much? :D

My recent experience with OSX vs Windows was with a new printer. - a Canon Pixma MG5550 We have 4 Macs in our house (2 iMacs and 2 rMBP), and a Windows 7 laptop (Acer). The wife keeps the Acer for programs that she uses for card making which don't play nice on the Mac because the vendor is too lazy to implement for Mac. She prefers that solution to using an iMac with Bootcamp, and if it keeps her happy....

When it came to adding the new printer to each of the computers wirelessly, the Macs were a doddle - each found and installed the printer in a matter of 30 seconds. As I'd expected.

The Acer running windows 7? In excess of 2 hours. It was literally a nightmare, which left me stressed and frustrated. It served as a great reminder of why our house is almost Windows free, and once again - while nothing is perfect - I give thanks that Apple stuff 'just works'.
 
Presumably you'd give it away to someone you don't like very much? :D

My recent experience with OSX vs Windows was with a new printer. - a Canon Pixma MG5550 We have 4 Macs in our house (2 iMacs and 2 rMBP), and a Windows 7 laptop (Acer). The wife keeps the Acer for programs that she uses for card making which don't play nice on the Mac because the vendor is too lazy to implement for Mac. She prefers that solution to using an iMac with Bootcamp, and if it keeps her happy....

When it came to adding the new printer to each of the computers wirelessly, the Macs were a doddle - each found and installed the printer in a matter of 30 seconds. As I'd expected.

The Acer running windows 7? In excess of 2 hours. It was literally a nightmare, which left me stressed and frustrated. It served as a great reminder of why our house is almost Windows free, and once again - while nothing is perfect - I give thanks that Apple stuff 'just works'.

Your experience May not be the same as the next person trying to connect a printer or other device. All you have to do is read Apple's own support forums to see that. I had a he'll of a time getting my two MacBooks to keep the external drives mounted after the computers would wake from sleep under mountain lion. It was finally fixed in mavericks. My Windows computer never had such problems.
 
One of the worst is working with an old install disc of Vista with no service packs. It also will not update to the first service pack so I had to go find a copy of it and then continue with the new ending updates. You should be able to download newer installs of an OS you have the right to install. These never ending updates it a bit ridiculous because your install media is dated. (Thus why I created my own)

Oh installing windows brings back so many memories, reminds me of the epic marathons i would have updating the family PCs; would need to take the entire wk end off (fri eve - mon morn) to do this on several machines. Would be hallucinating the windows installer status bar by the time i get to school on the monday!
 
The Acer running windows 7? In excess of 2 hours. It was literally a nightmare, which left me stressed and frustrated. It served as a great reminder of why our house is almost Windows free, and once again - while nothing is perfect - I give thanks that Apple stuff 'just works'.
Its funny my experience is the polar opposite. The printer driver for my Canon that is included with OS X, is a ghost of what the windows version has. It works but has little functionality. I logged onto canon and found for the most part they direct me to use the OS X driver, where as they have a fully robust windows driver.

The same goes for my scanner, no driver supplied by Epson, but one for windows. Epson has me using Image Capture which is awful, at least for my needs.

When it comes to drivers for peripherals, windows tends to win hands down imo.
 
Oh installing windows brings back so many memories, reminds me of the epic marathons i would have updating the family PCs; would need to take the entire wk end off (fri eve - mon morn) to do this on several machines. Would be hallucinating the windows installer status bar by the time i get to school on the monday!

It is so much better with an updated install on USB, Sday card etc...I need to find something better for a family members system, old Vista disc is just too slow.
 
Fair enough. Airport usage was actually one of the times I thought the lap was still beneficial, but even then there are now so many places in terminals or lounges to place your laptop. Regardless, I'll concede lap usage is still viable, but not nearly tho the degree people around here claim it to be.

I see the opposite. Train commuters still use laptops on their laps out of necessity. My MacBook Air gets used primarily in my lap on the train and on the couch when I have work to do in the evening.

A portable computer that requires a desk or table is crippled in a major way.
 
A portable computer that requires a desk or table is crippled in a major way.

The primary objective of a portable computer is to be easily transferable between points A-B-C and so on. I would wager that the vast majority of laptop usage happens on a surface like a desk, table, etc.

Regardless, it's also been pointed out by many that the Surface works competently on a lap. Not saying it's perfect, but the complaint of it not being lap capable is pretty exaggerated.
 
I would argue it works more than competently. Outside of my office when it is docked, the primary way I use my SP is on my lap. The new setup really works fine.
 
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