If I recall they didn't use the mobile IE code for this - they worked with the desktop IE team.
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Microsoft Launches Zune HD
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If I recall they didn't use the mobile IE code for this - they worked with the desktop IE team.
This is the most honest post here. Plenty of people want the Zune HD, but the support isn't there. It's almost like they're releasing it JUST out of spite. The hardware looks great. The software (apps, mac support) behind it, ahhh, not so much.
They aren't even releasing a dev kit for it yet. They aren't ready to compete with Apple yet- or they aren't going to try.
Say what you will about apple- they continued to grow the ipod market in terms of software and support.
Yes, but the first Zune was released 3 years ago
The iPod took 9 months to come to windows
And that was when apple made the PMP mainstream, let alone now with many devices to compete with the Zune
It's going to need a revision or two but there's some potential here. There needs to be an OS X client to be honest.
That's nice but it still isn't FM.
What's wrong with it?
Other then the pretty useless dead space on the bottom, it doesn't seem that bad.
I said higher percentage, not higher numbers.
In other words (made up example):
General Population Mac/Windows is 5%/95%
College Students Mac/Windows is 35%/65%
PMP Buyers Mac/Windows is 15%/85%
Those numbers are imaginary, but I suspect it's something like that. Thus, the fact that more iPod users are using Windows is right, but has absolutley nothing to do with my point.
Yes they didn't use the IE 4 engine from 1997 like other Windows Mobile devices. instead the Zune HD uses a mobile version of IE 6 about a decade old, and nearly a decade behind the modern WebKit browsers used in the iPhone, Palm Pre, Android, and modern BlackBerry phones.
Zune Myths
http://www.appleinsider.com/articles/09/09/14/from_oled_to_tegra_five_myths_of_the_zune_hd.html
Ha I was just about to say someone reads appleinsider
It is odd that MS refuses to go where the future of mobile browsers is currently, webkit.
Thats such a mindblowing statement, given your username and all. The fact that you haven't touched one of these devices, let alone used one, so what you'd 'rather' have is based on absolutely nothing but your inherent bias.
Seriously, I hope this device does well. It will just motivate Apple to up their game a bit, be more ambitious, and aggresive in their product releases. Competition is a good thing.
Zune Hd
So the ZUNE HD launch party made it to MacRumors. Well well.
So i said this before somewhere else. I would not spend a dime on that Device, even though it does look decent.
First, there is no way i would early adopt this beta Zune HD.
Secondly, there is an Internet explorer on that Gadget.
Third, i want to see some Outside footage of that OLED screen.
And in the end i love my PMP to have Phone capabilities.
And than i also thought about this thingamajig as a gaming machine, i personally think the screen is just a bit to small. Playing on an iPhone 3gs or an iPod Touch can be difficult sometimes, because of your thumbs blocking the View on the Stuff going on! Just imagine the screen being even smaller, i just don't see this working without ad On Gamepad.
Of course u can only put games on it with accelerometer controls but that would certainly limit the Title availability.
I added a little "RED" to a pic from GIZMODO (us.gizmodo.com), it shows the ZHD at a promo event and it has Fingers on them, easily comparing sizes here ull see what i ment above.
So the ZUNE HD launch party made it to MacRumors. Well well.
So i said this before somewhere else. I would not spend a dime on that Device, even though it does look decent.
First, there is no way i would early adopt this beta Zune HD.
Secondly, there is an Internet explorer on that Gadget.
Third, i want to see some Outside footage of that OLED screen.
And in the end i love my PMP to have Phone capabilities.
And than i also thought about this thingamajig as a gaming machine, i personally think the screen is just a bit to small. Playing on an iPhone 3gs or an iPod Touch can be difficult sometimes, because of your thumbs blocking the View on the Stuff going on! Just imagine the screen being even smaller, i just don't see this working without ad On Gamepad.
Of course u can only put games on it with accelerometer controls but that would certainly limit the Title availability.
I added a little "RED" to a pic from GIZMODO (us.gizmodo.com), it shows the ZHD at a promo event and it has Fingers on them, easily comparing sizes here ull see what i ment above.
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The device looks like a good step for MS. I think it will attract a bigger aduience for them, but it will make little if any dent in marketshare. The big problem is the Marketplace. How can it or any other similar type of store compete with iTunes?
Something that amazes me about all of the Apple/iPod Touch/iPhone haters is that bash Apple products, but always use the Apple products as the benchmark for comparison. If Apple & its products are so horrible, then why are they the benchmark?
Something that amazes me about all of the Apple/iPod Touch/iPhone haters is that bash Apple products, but always use the Apple products as the benchmark for comparison. If Apple & its products are so horrible, then why are they the benchmark?
I wonder why my iPhone makes clear phone calls?And HD Radio with tagging. And HD video out. And a faster interface. And subscription based music library support.
But no mac support.
I would have bought one today if there was mac support. Windows users are lucky in this case.
Although dude, you have an iPhone- the best of all the devices! It does everything except make clear phone calls!
But at least it has a camera!
Why is this even on macrumors. It's got nothing to do with Apple. Stupid move to create more flamewars. Troll bait.
I tend to consider when the first version of iTunes for Windows came out, not when they were using third-party software with plug-ins to get compatibility. That was 2 years since the release. Microsoft is just slow and being reactionary. That's the hold-up.
How about you all quit citing the same page from an Apple rumor site and give me something substantive and new?
Its about the industry, entirely related. If your looking for an echo chamber go somewhere else.
Good point, that might help it in sales - I can't believe it being much worse than the iPhone or iPod Touch!
Looks great, I hope they can roll it out to more countries soon.
The best part about it for me is that it has a proper widescreen display. Apple claims that some of its products are "widescreen" but in actual fact they are not, and it means that you have to watch both 16:9 and 4:3 content with black bars or some cropping. Not so with Microsoft's device, which can render 16:9 video without losing an inch of the image.
A few months ago everyone was saying that Apple was going to match Microsoft's effort. The September event is now over and Apple is lagging way, way behind.
The best part about it for me is that it has a proper widescreen display. Apple claims that some of its products are "widescreen" but in actual fact they are not, and it means that you have to watch both 16:9 and 4:3 content with black bars or some cropping. Not so with Microsoft's device, which can render 16:9 video without losing an inch of the image.
A few months ago everyone was saying that Apple was going to match Microsoft's effort. The September event is now over and Apple is lagging way, way behind.
I like the interface. Call me a fanboy, but if this thing had an apple logo on it, I'd buy it. It definatly has an appeal. I wish more people would buy it. Maybe if apple had some competition in the marketplace they would actually update "the worlds greatest iPod" instead of just lowering the price. The iPod brand is just so dificult to penetrate though. Kids don't ask Santa for an MP3 player anymore, they ask for an iPod.
Yay for capitalism and market competition! Monopolies are boring.
Yay for capitalism and market competition! Monopolies are boring.
