Microsoft Launches Zune HD

[BongoBanger]

More quote mining, hot air and irrelevant points including one where I admitted I was wrong but somehow that bit seems to have been missed

You were wrong. Man up and face it. I did when I was wrong which is not now.

Much as I would love to continue this exchange there's a freshly painted wall that's drying and I think watching it's going to be a lot more interesting.

Toodles.

 

[Mattlike]

I see, the topic finally turned away from facts of ZUNE HD, and now a bunch of apple lover began to bashing MS as always.

very good spirit. Every iPod Touch or ZUNE HD buyers should stand before the counter and reflect the decades of history of Microsoft, Apple, Netscape, HP, Real, etc, before they make a purchase. Very interesting indeed.

In regards to the original subject, it seems to be doing very well so far. http://gizmodo.com/5363270/zune-hd-quickly-selling-out-at-amazon-newegg-best-buy-and-more

 

[DMann]

You were wrong. Man up and face it. I did.

Wrong? Wrong about what exactly? In any event, glad to hear that you face up to your current erroneous contradictions as well.

 

[Sehnsucht]

Wow, this thread...........

Anyone know how the Zune HD stacks up against the Sony Walkman X series? The Walkman seems better to me.

 

[jodelli]

Actually, their first product was BASIC, and in their defense, they didn't rip it off anyone and they didn't shove it down everyone's throat. Plus it was pretty useful back in the days.

However, they did end up paying the DOS guy a few millions after settling a lawsuit with him.

Yes, MS Basic was original in that aside from memory calls and handling video and such it was basically cross platform.

Microsoft paid Tim Paterson (the DOS guy) in the normal course of business, first for his QDos, then when they bought his later software company. Plus he was a Microsoft employee on different occasions.

The controversy was over how much Paterson had copied from Gary Kildall's CP/M, which eventually went to court. Paterson lost a libel (I think, maybe some American can correct me) suit over something that had been written to the effect that he had copied CP/M code.

 

[jodelli]

At least Apple actually paid Xerox to access PARC before significantly developing and refining their own OS.

Actually the funny thing is that Xerox paid Apple for a privileged position in Apple's coming IPO. The brass at Xerox told researchers to allow Apple developers access to proprietary PARC information.
The rationale was that since Xerox was planning to buy into Apple sharing data made sense.

Dealers of Lightning
Xerox PARC and the Dawn of the Computer Age Michael A. Hiltzik

Oh and I've already declared my Apple fandom and that the Zune is nonetheless a pretty neat gadget.

 

[MorphingDragon]

Actually the funny thing is that Xerox paid Apple for a privileged position in Apple's coming IPO. The brass at Xerox told researchers to allow Apple developers access to proprietary PARC information.
The rationale was that since Xerox was planning to buy into Apple sharing data made sense.

Dealers of Lightning
Xerox PARC and the Dawn of the Computer Age Michael A. Hiltzik

Oh and I've already declared my Apple fandom and that the Zune is nonetheless a pretty neat gadget.

Well that sure didnt turn out as expected.

 

[DMann]

Wow, this thread...........

Anyone know how the Zune HD stacks up against the Sony Walkman X series? The Walkman seems better to me.

In terms of distinguishing features such as superior sound quality, built-in active noise cancellation and controls, S-digital amplifier, (EX MDR-NC02 Headphones included) tactile rocker volume control, tactile play, reverse, pause controls, Slacker Internet Radio, (no subscription - pulls in and stores 1,000 songs using partitioned memory, no connection necessary once done) integrated YouTube, Drag & Drop, Gee-Whiz (scene scroll) menu for TV shows/movies, Podcasting, icon oriented UI, upcoming Android OS, and broader media playback options, I'd say the X series will appeal more to anyone looking for an optimal PMP.