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The best part about it for me is that it has a proper widescreen display. Apple claims that some of its products are "widescreen" but in actual fact they are not, and it means that you have to watch both 16:9 and 4:3 content with black bars or some cropping. Not so with Microsoft's device, which can render 16:9 video without losing an inch of the image.

Um, that's great if you're using the device exclusively for watching widescreen movies, but for doing anything else, perhaps true widescreen isn't ideal?

A few months ago everyone was saying that Apple was going to match Microsoft's effort. The September event is now over and Apple is lagging way, way behind.

Are you serious? OLED and HD radio leaves the iPod in the dust, eh? Puh-lease.

I remember everyone (everyone being the MS fanboys) exclaiming that squirting songs and FM radio made the original Zune an iPod killer. How did that work out?

If anyone is lagging way, way behind, it's Microsoft. By, oh I dunno, tens of thousands of apps? You know, a viable ecosystem? I wonder if Microsoft is still paying companies to create hardware accessories for the Zune.
 
To all those blindly posting the AI link and proclaiming it holy:

What are you going to say when/if an Apple device comes out using the Tegra processor and OLED screen?

"YESH YESH IT'Z THE BESTZ! WHOOO APPLE!"

Get over yourselves. Competition is good.

At one point I would assume Apple will use the OLED screens, when they decide it makes sense. They however will never use the Tegra processor.

I haven't read one comment saying competition is bad, have you?
 
I think you missed the point. There's no reason for them to not tap into the additional 8% that is the Apple market.

You don't understand how much money goes into something like that do you? I don't think they would recover the losses anytime soon to constitute the man hours required to make it work with a Mac.
 
Are you folks that afraid of a little competition? Really? ;)

I don't think it's being afraid of competition at all...I think it's a lot of pent up rage that has been brewing for years. I can understand it too becuase I was on the other side of the fence until Apple bought Logic - and I wouldn't compromise on music software so that's actually what precipated my move to Macs. I've read alot of articles since then and before the move becuase I like to research things to death before buying something and I can tell you - macs and Apple were bashed to no end and their demise predicted at the end of each of those reviews becuase they only had 2% or whatever market share. Now that Apple has clearly moved to the forefront in smart phones and mp3 players and music stores it's a chance for alot of people to feel pride that they've made a good choice in choosing Apple and macs - of course you'd think there'd be alot of bloggers and pundits saying hey, good job apple - it's oh look at all those fanboys etc etc...now, I'm not saying there's not some people that go overboard and some people who are just stupid to be stupid - but people can't say that windows/pc/mp3 users weren't bashing apple when they came out with Itunes and the iPod. I'm sure they weren't afraid of a little competition too....
 
nice... I want one for the nVidia Tegra processor, and the 720p output - this could be even a smaller media center for my flat panel at home.
 
Nice try MS but without the backing of a comparable App Store this thing goes nowhere.
Despite some comments here the tech specs are not anything to get excited about.
The processor is a step behind the current Apple offerings and OLED is crap in normal daylight use.
As for FM radio...are you kidding!
Nice try and good to have someone barking at your heals.
But this is just another unoriginal MS wannabe.
 
Agreed. The MS Brigade wails about the small ecosystem for Macs and deride it as useless eye candy (both the OS GUI and the hardware itself). "Where is the software? Where are the games? LOL!!!!"

But when Microsoft comes out with a device with a small ecosystem and a focus on eye candy and hardware design, they think it's the greatest thing the world has ever seen. Just read the comments on Engadget for every Zune post. You'd think they'd sell a billion of these things based on the joyous cyber-chatter.

The astroturfing machine is in high gear for the Zune HD. In fact, I bet we'll see a lot of new MacRumors members this week singing the Zune's praises.

Me, I see nothing new being brought to the table. Another Me Too product from the world's favorite Me Too company; Microsoft.

It works both ways. We Mac lovers deride [non-Apple] media devices for their thinly populated app stores...yet...we own Mac computers. Irony at its best.
 
To all those blindly posting the AI link and proclaiming it holy:

What are you going to say when/if an Apple device comes out using the Tegra processor and OLED screen?

"YESH YESH IT'Z THE BESTZ! WHOOO APPLE!"

Get over yourselves. Competition is good.

the only competition is emerging technology used in the Zune, not the Zune itself
 
Blue screen in HD

This will be new for MS: A Blue Screen in HD.

Too little too late, no extra's in favor of Iphone.

I bet Steve will order all personnel to buy one of these instead of the Ipod.
He you guys at MS, at home you can use the Iphone.

MS stop copying and start inventing
 
Funny how this significant step forward only has one thing to offer the touch/iphone doesn't. The oled screen.

I think i'll stick with my iPhone and be happy.

I can only hope that this will put pressure on Apple to really ramp it up with the next iPhone/iPod touch... I'm hoping for, at the very least, an OLED screen (which will hopefully mean better battery life, but probably only means a smaller device), a larger screen (maybe even 16:9 or 16:10) and an FM (or HD radio) tuner.
 
This will be new for MS: A Blue Screen in HD.

Too little too late, no extra's in favor of Iphone.

I bet Steve will order all personnel to buy one of these instead of the Ipod.
He you guys at MS, at home you can use the Iphone.

MS stop copying and start inventing

And yet another fan---Cul---evangelist.

What was that you were saying about copying, since everything you said was said by another poster that just copied another and another and... OMFG... is this MacRumors.com or "BashMicrosoftWithCopyAndPasteForDummies.com" ?
 
And no mention of it ...

Go to microsoft.com and good luck finding it ... though Windows Server 2008 HPC whatever leaps off the page. Gee, sign me up for that.

I'm sure it will help MS leap from 1% marketshare all the way up to 1.5%.

Wow.
 
This will be new for MS: A Blue Screen in HD.

Too little too late, no extra's in favor of Iphone.

I bet Steve will order all personnel to buy one of these instead of the Ipod.
He you guys at MS, at home you can use the Iphone.

MS stop copying and start inventing

i'm glad you titled this post too
 
I for one welcome any competition to the ipod Touch. Do you guys not realize that the reason you can now get a 32GB ipod Touch with improved specs for $299 is because this Zune HD came out? The beauty of market capital, you must compete to exist (unless you are the government). The more successful the Zune HD becomes, the better for us apple ipod Touch/Iphone users as apple will inevitably do whatever to keep up or surpass any features deemed necessary. I have an Iphone 3GS and 2nd gen Touch, and love both devices. But having competition in the marketplace is necessary for refinements and other things to come down the pike. Let's not forget that not too long ago apple dissed native application development for their touchscreen platforms, it wasn't until the marketplace and all those pioneers who wrote apps for the jailbroken phone/touches that apple decided to include native apps in their 2.0 OS.
 
Sorry - what does this new item have to do with Mac?

what are you talking about?

this is apple's 'competition' and they came out with a new product that has exciting new technologies.


how does it not have anything to do with 'Mac', and by Mac i assume you mean Apple
 
At one point I would assume Apple will use the OLED screens, when they decide it makes sense. They however will never use the Tegra processor.

I haven't read one comment saying competition is bad, have you?

Tegra is an ARM processor. Never say never. It's also made my Nvidia. Again...

You don't understand how much money goes into something like that do you? I don't think they would recover the losses anytime soon to constitute the man hours required to make it work with a Mac.

It's not as difficult as it used to be. And, considering it's Microsoft, they've got the money to do so.
 
I have been excited for this for quite some time and am eager to see how it eventually performs and if MS can provide enough content to make it a good competitor.

However, I prefer to consolidate my gadgets as much as possible and my iPhone 3GS does that for me.
 
Going to Best Buy to try one out after work. If I like it, I am walking out with one.
 
Looks nice. Probably will never get one thought because I will own macs for the rest of my life and the zune software doesn't work with the Mac OS
 
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