To exclude the 1st gen. iPad which doesn't have one. It's a bit silly though because the 1st gen can only run iOS up to 5.1.1 and Office requires iOS 7 anyway.
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Microsoft Launching Word, Excel, and PowerPoint for iPad Today
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To exclude the 1st gen. iPad which doesn't have one. It's a bit silly though because the 1st gen can only run iOS up to 5.1.1 and Office requires iOS 7 anyway.
Are you trying to install it on something without an FFC?
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Exactly, the iOS version req (7.x) omits the 1st gen iPad anyway
Are you trying to install it on something without an FFC?
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Exactly, the iOS version omits the 1st gen iPad anyway
Ya I installed on my iPad 3, and figured I would try it on my iPad 1....I just thought it was odd that it didn't say I had too old of an os but instead "focused" on the camera.
Thanks for the explanations!!
Yeah, that is a little funky - though some developers have used detection of a specific peripheral as a limiter for some apps, but usually when they cant do it via the iOS version (which isnt the case here).
Maybe theres a huge database of photos of people who have installed it ... creepy ...
In our household, there are 2 adults and 3 teens, so we have 2 Mac Minis and 3 MacBooks. In addition, we have 2 iPads. I have Micorsoft Office installed on all 5 Macs.
I think Office 365 subscription would be a better deal than buying an Office family pack (3 installs) plus two additional installs. In adddition, the iPads would be able to use Office, plus I would get a boatload of OneDrive space.
I am not crazy about paying for a subscription, but I think it pencils-out for me. Also, I doubt anyone would buy an Office 365 subscription just to install on a single iPad. But, if you already are using 365 or if you have multiple Office users in your household, this might be a pretty good deal.
I think Office 365 subscription would be a better deal than buying an Office family pack (3 installs) plus two additional installs. In adddition, the iPads would be able to use Office, plus I would get a boatload of OneDrive space.
I am not crazy about paying for a subscription, but I think it pencils-out for me. Also, I doubt anyone would buy an Office 365 subscription just to install on a single iPad. But, if you already are using 365 or if you have multiple Office users in your household, this might be a pretty good deal.
It wasn't when I bought Office for Mac. Also, I got Office for Windows for $10 through the Home Use Program (and yes, I actually mostly use it for work at home).
Furthermore, I don't need 5 installations. I only need one. I also don't need to always have the latest version, have no use for 60 minutes of Skype, and 7GB on OneDrive is plenty for me. This subscription model is just another attempt to sell people more than they need, similar to what e.g. cellular operators have be doing for many years.
From past experience, getting every second version of Office is more than enough. Even at work (I work at a Fortune 500 company) they never upgrade to the latest versions at once due to compatibility issues (e.g. corporate templates and macros not working properly on the new version). We currently use Office 2010 and 2007.
Boy, you are presumptuous. Define "real world".
Who is Microsoft targeting here? I get Office for "free" at work (I work for a major "real world" wide TelCo) on my work PC. Perhaps this is a good deal for the enterprise, but I haven't really looked at it that way because it doesn't apply to me. We're talking specifically about Office for iPad.
I would have paid for this up front if it wasn't subscription based, and priced competitively. If there is a feature that you NEED that Office provides (and no one else does) would be one thing, but I theorize that for most iPad users it becomes an issue of preference. I'd rather use Office than iWork or other office apps, and would've paid for that, if priced competitively. But not as a subscription, and not for that much.
As it is, the alternatives suffice for my needs. I could be wrong, but I believe that'll be true of most iPad users. Time will tell.
But Microsoft is competing with useful free apps that do most of its functions. The question becomes why pay for something I can get for free? So what indispensable advantages does Office for iPad have over other productivity apps?
Cross-platform compatibility. May not be an issue for most, but as much as I detest the subscription model, the ability to access/edit documents from different platforms is very appealing for our household.
Overall I think this is great news as last year I bought into the MS ecosystem after 5 years in the Google camp. I was finally fed up with Google's increasing restrictions for their free products (they removed EAS support for iOS, their IMAP implementation has always been problematic, etc) , so the time came to choose to pay either for Google Apps or to go MS. I finally chose Office 365 Small Business Premium, and here's what I got:
1) Email: Hosted Exchange, 50GB per account. It's a great email service, keeps everything sync'ed with EAS across all my devices. Works great with bot iOS and my Mac.
2) OneDrive for Business: 25GB storage included with the Office 365 subscription. Right now it's missing the Mac sync client, but I use it on my work PC and it works well. I use a small tool on the PC to compare and copy the contents of the OneDrive folder into a DropBox folder every 5 minutes and that's how I get the files sync'ed into my home Mac. It's an ugly workaround but it won't be necessary as soon as they release the sync client for Mac (they showed an alpha build at the SharePoint conference earlier this month).
3) Office online: It reads directly from my OneDrive, others can collaborate. Everything gets sync'ed to my work PC (and eventually to the Mac).
4) New iPad apps: I can create standard Office documents on the road which will be waiting for me as soon as I get home or back to the office.
5) Desktop app. licences. An added bonus for me really, as I already had 2011 Mac and my work-provided 2013 copies. Will be nice to receive 2014 automatically on my Mac as soon as it's released though.
For me the though, the most important feature is that every application, no matter the platform, generates standard office docs. (.xlsx, .docx, etc) and in my profession, for better or worse, this is how the world works. It's a huuuge time saver not having to convert every document back and forth as I would have to do with Pages/Google Apps.
All of the above for US$150/year. For me, Office 365 is a great deal.
1) Email: Hosted Exchange, 50GB per account. It's a great email service, keeps everything sync'ed with EAS across all my devices. Works great with bot iOS and my Mac.
2) OneDrive for Business: 25GB storage included with the Office 365 subscription. Right now it's missing the Mac sync client, but I use it on my work PC and it works well. I use a small tool on the PC to compare and copy the contents of the OneDrive folder into a DropBox folder every 5 minutes and that's how I get the files sync'ed into my home Mac. It's an ugly workaround but it won't be necessary as soon as they release the sync client for Mac (they showed an alpha build at the SharePoint conference earlier this month).
3) Office online: It reads directly from my OneDrive, others can collaborate. Everything gets sync'ed to my work PC (and eventually to the Mac).
4) New iPad apps: I can create standard Office documents on the road which will be waiting for me as soon as I get home or back to the office.
5) Desktop app. licences. An added bonus for me really, as I already had 2011 Mac and my work-provided 2013 copies. Will be nice to receive 2014 automatically on my Mac as soon as it's released though.
For me the though, the most important feature is that every application, no matter the platform, generates standard office docs. (.xlsx, .docx, etc) and in my profession, for better or worse, this is how the world works. It's a huuuge time saver not having to convert every document back and forth as I would have to do with Pages/Google Apps.
All of the above for US$150/year. For me, Office 365 is a great deal.
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I agree 1000%. Unfortunately, Adobe (from what I understand) is making TONS on money with the new 'CC' model, so it's probably something not only that's here to stay, but that we're going to see a lot more of in the future with other companies.
I hate to say it, but the software rental system makes me contemplate something I would have never considered before - get an 'unchained' pirated version. That's the sick thing about this: If MS and Adobe start to sense that more of us who would have otherwise paid for a 'unchained' copy are now pirating their software - then maybe they'll change their mind.
But I doubt it.
You managed to work "anecdotal" and "outlier" into the very first sentence. Nice work, but your offhand dismissal means absolutely nothing, especially if you are going to keep falling back on what many people "regard" as true, rather than try to find the truth. Working yourself up into a sales pitch for Microsoft also doesn't cut any ice. If you bought your own argument, you'd have abandoned the Mac a long time ago. I mean, just look at Microsoft's 10K!
The "nature" of my work does not figure into this. I write for a living, so document production and exchange is a big part of my daily routine. Believe it or don't, not using Word has never been an impediment to any of this. In fact, it's been a boon, because my work flow is so much more efficient than it would be if I had to wrestle the Word Monster on a daily basis. My work product is also so much better than the vast majority of what I see coming out of Word. The fact is, lots of people could do exactly what I do, if they reexamined the lie that nothing less than totally "compatible" works. It does.
There isn't anything more factual than a company's 10K form. Sorry if you don't like Microsoft's business model. I'm not wild about it myself as a consumer. But it is what it is. They are making 365 profitable by targeting corporate enterprise and making consumer incidental. They put it in black and white for you to read.
Also unsure what my using a Mac and MS's 10K has to do with anything. It's been a long time since I've haven't had Office on my computer. Ever since Jobs returned to Apple MS has committed to keep making Office for Mac.
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Have fun with that on your iPad then.... for $60 a year. Pages, Numbers and Keynote are great for the majority of users.
All I'm really saying is that when a university has already spent a bunch of money on iWork (because they all have) and gotten used to it, its going to be a hard sell to get them to pay $60 per year per user when they've already got something that works.
Sure, Office format is the standard. But, most people aren't typing dissertations on the iPad. They use it for quick things when away from their computer. And, a free (or already purchased) app will do the trick. I just think this is going to be a hard sell when universities have already spent the money.
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Thats because there really aren't any solid alternatives to Photoshop, Illustrator, Indesign etc... Where as iWork (though not great, and not the industry standard) are pretty good for most peoples needs.
There isn't anything less relevant to this discussion than Microsoft's 10K, but then I have already pointed out the absurdity of using it as an argument for buying into Office subscriptions. Sorry you don't have any response to my argument that people actually have a choice. They always have had a choice, and Microsoft's policies might just force more people and businesses to seek out alternatives.
During my research into Office 365 subscriptions, I discovered that they offer a university deal for students, faculty, and staff... $79 for 4 year subscription. That's for one PC/Mac and one tablet. I'm not a fan of subscriptions for software but $20 a year is not bad.
I agree. Just a small correction. There is an OneDrive Client for Mac. Just look for it on the AppStore.
You can already do that with iWork. Anyone can access and edit a document using the web interface.
People, maybe. Businesses, not so much. The subscription service ultimately benefits them far more than any casual user, who could easily get by with Pages or even LibreOffice without any issues whatsoever.
Comparatively, businesses, both large and small, get far more for considerably less from 365 than they did in the days when Office was license only.
Sorry, I didn't read through all (now) 17 pages of posts, but $99/year to use?
Um, no thanks....
Um, no thanks....
I'm really unsure what your argument is here.
My original post:
Everything I've responded to here supports this thought. You seem to want to always go back to your personal experiences. That's fine, but it's not representative of the larger enterprise world as viewed by Microsoft. I'm not making an argument for subscription based software. I've said again and again, I don't like it, most consumers don't either. But if the sky is blue then I'm going to tell people the sky is blue even if I wish it were green.
I'm a business and a people, and my use is far from casual. Over the last 25+ years, I have never owned a copy of Word or Office, and have never felt any need to own it. The simple reality is, Office is an actual necessity for far fewer people in business than is commonly suggested. It is basically a myth.
@petvas:
The OneDrive client on the App Store is for the consumer version of their product. The other client is called OneDrive for Business and although they share a similar name they are completely different products. The former works with a Microsoft account (outlook.com, live.com, hotmail.com, etc), the latter works with business accounts (called "Organizational accounts" in MS speak) and is actually a SharePoint site that the client app. connects to.
Right, and most people don't actually need Macs or iPads. But if MS is offering them something compelling enough for them to plunk money down for, then hey, why not consider it? It's not so much about there being alternatives as much as it being a good product in its own right.
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Ok, I understand. You didn't mention that on your original post. The OneDrive for business is still missing.