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That comes in the next year or 2 of grade school. Only the advanced ones can count to 32.
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Microsoft Offers Behind-the-Scenes Look at Office for Mac 2011 Features
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I was thinking: would Office 11 be worth it over iWork? Would you use it they priced out to compete with iWork? Would you use Office 11 even if it was given to you for free?
I actually instruct students where I work on Office 07, I also used Office 08 for a short trial run. I just can't get into the new design of office, it's very messy and unorganized. This new release has got to be simply amazing to warrant me to switch suites.
I actually instruct students where I work on Office 07, I also used Office 08 for a short trial run. I just can't get into the new design of office, it's very messy and unorganized. This new release has got to be simply amazing to warrant me to switch suites.
FYI: These people do exist. For those of you that went to or were invited to the Mac Roadshow, Ryan was one of the presenters.
OneNote I was told from a source is in early development.
OneNote I was told from a source is in early development.
iWork vs. Office
The way I look at it, the iWork vs. Office comparison works this way:
PowerPoint vs. Keynote:
Keynote wins this all the way. Except when you receive ppt's from others.
Word vs. Pages:
Pages is much better for creating documents from scratch (especially if they are to be presented). However, Word has some features which makes it necessary for some category of users (e.g Science/Engineering users, with integration with Equation Editor). Also, its necessary for compatibility.
Excel vs. Numbers:
Numbers is nice for preparing simple charts and tables, which look good, and laying them out.
Everything else its not even close. Excel crushes Numbers. With the latest Office adding back VBA support in Excel, its well beyond Numbers.
The way I look at it, the iWork vs. Office comparison works this way:
PowerPoint vs. Keynote:
Keynote wins this all the way. Except when you receive ppt's from others.
Word vs. Pages:
Pages is much better for creating documents from scratch (especially if they are to be presented). However, Word has some features which makes it necessary for some category of users (e.g Science/Engineering users, with integration with Equation Editor). Also, its necessary for compatibility.
Excel vs. Numbers:
Numbers is nice for preparing simple charts and tables, which look good, and laying them out.
Everything else its not even close. Excel crushes Numbers. With the latest Office adding back VBA support in Excel, its well beyond Numbers.
I'll save my $300 by purchasing iWork '11.
Might be more. Office is a rip-off for 99% of Mac users.
I pity the 1% that needs what Office provides over iWork.
Might be more. Office is a rip-off for 99% of Mac users.
I pity the 1% that needs what Office provides over iWork.
Microsoft said it.....
2:08 in the video: "We know that Mac users like to achieve things very quickly and efficiently "
This made me smile when I heard it
2:08 in the video: "We know that Mac users like to achieve things very quickly and efficiently "
This made me smile when I heard it
Excel fan since 1985
I've said here many times that I like MS Excel more than any of my other programs. I've used Excel since 1985. I have saying. It is: "If it is worth doing, do it with Excel."
Probably 95% of my income comes from programs that I have written in Excel. Most of them will not run in any other Mac spreadsheet. I know as I have tried plenty of them over the past 25+ years.
Everybody likes or loves something, most of the time it will be different than you or me.
This is the first time I've heard anyone say they love Office 2008.
This is the first time I've heard anyone say they were fan of any office suite, let alone Word.
I've said here many times that I like MS Excel more than any of my other programs. I've used Excel since 1985. I have saying. It is: "If it is worth doing, do it with Excel."
Probably 95% of my income comes from programs that I have written in Excel. Most of them will not run in any other Mac spreadsheet. I know as I have tried plenty of them over the past 25+ years.
Everybody likes or loves something, most of the time it will be different than you or me.
What would the benefit be if Office 2011 for Mac was 64bit?
Are there any other office suites for Mac that ARE 64bit?
Are there any other office suites for Mac that ARE 64bit?
Office 2008 was rushed and MS admitted this much. They really have dived into the Mac Enterprise user base to test and give feedback. I have submitted several bugs (including moving the damn Microsoft User Data folder to ~/Library/Application Support/Microsoft/ where it belongs!!!)
64bit would help but not overwhelmingly. The biggest thing is the changed DB structure in office. That itself has made Outlook much faster and more stable. Excel is also amazing. Much Much faster and the VB support will help my business users a lot!
I'm still running Excel '04 as I found performance issues with '08 that the MS Mac team told me "wouldn't be fixed in the current release". Hopefully they've fixed it in the new version.
Numbers is nice, but can't do pivot tables, text to columns, etc, which makes it useless for what I need it for.
So for you beta testers, is that waste of space at the top of the page gone now?
Numbers is nice, but can't do pivot tables, text to columns, etc, which makes it useless for what I need it for.
So for you beta testers, is that waste of space at the top of the page gone now?
iWork which comes without solver, formula builder, bibliography/reference manager and tons of basic features such as rotating text in cells, moving lines/columns, hyphenation support for most languages, mixing portrait/landscape modes in one document and many more?
I can't forget my recent coursework in Pages: it couldn't split the cells when they were too long to fit in one page (i.e. PEST-analysis), so I had giant white spaces in it, and the professors were like "are you trying to fool us with your page count?!"
iWork might be good to keep a list of groceries or calculate some simple stuff, but in terms of functionality it's no way near MS Office. And I doubt it will be.
I use iWork at home for flyers and my Resume. It really looks polished and is pretty darn easy to use. At work I use office because we have templates that have been built by our BU. Numbers can't light a candle to Excel. Keynote is a great program but it just doesn't have anything in it that makes me go I need that over Powerpoint (the industry standard.)
Felt the same way. It's just MS trying to portray a youthful image.
It simply has to be their most under-marketed product ever. It would be great to see a Mac-native version.
Words like "better" do little to shed light on a true comparison unless you qualify it. Better *how*?
Are you in beta? Can you give some points as to why? I would really like to know because I am personally on the fence as to what one to buy. I have 2008 currently and to be honest, don't like it. But Outlook on Mac would rock, use it at work and it blows mail out of the water.
office bloatware 2011
No thanks.
Nothing sucks worse on my Mac than stuff from MS. Well, maybe Adobe.
NeoOffice has everything I'll ever use for documents, spreadsheets and presentations.
As for mail, all mail clients suck. Some suck worse than others.
No thanks.
Nothing sucks worse on my Mac than stuff from MS. Well, maybe Adobe.
NeoOffice has everything I'll ever use for documents, spreadsheets and presentations.
As for mail, all mail clients suck. Some suck worse than others.
That video is laughable. The managers there are all constraint by MS tight budget and they are not only
1) Implementing a feature from Mail which has been there since the beginning of man
2) Scrapping the PPC support
For what? For implementing MACROS again?
Im sorry but Mac users should NOT agree with programmers implementing useless features and calling it a new office version.
Another question: Will it be launching in 20 sec like Word 2008 does, as well?
1) Implementing a feature from Mail which has been there since the beginning of man
2) Scrapping the PPC support
For what? For implementing MACROS again?
Im sorry but Mac users should NOT agree with programmers implementing useless features and calling it a new office version.
Another question: Will it be launching in 20 sec like Word 2008 does, as well?