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Microsoft Office 2008 Delayed Until January 2008
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Last I heard, there were only 2 products that actually make a profit for MS - MS Windows and MS office. All their other products either lose money or mostly break even (IIRC). So MS is NOT gonna jeopardize one of its only 2 products that actually makes money by letting even a minor segment of it go un-updated. More than that, if MS products aren't cross-compatible then they lose a lot of the only thing that keeps them in business - their monopoly.
iWork
I'm just hoping the upcoming iWork upgrade may be enough for me to pass on MS Office when I finally buy a Mac in August. I just need a decent word processor and occasional-use spreadsheet which is compatible with Excel. I use MS Office in the work place, but rarely use it for 'fun stuff' at home.
I'm just hoping the upcoming iWork upgrade may be enough for me to pass on MS Office when I finally buy a Mac in August. I just need a decent word processor and occasional-use spreadsheet which is compatible with Excel. I use MS Office in the work place, but rarely use it for 'fun stuff' at home.
The biggest "pro" is that you don't support miCrapsoft, and instead support Open Source.
The biggest "con" is miCrapsoft itself.
I can't wait for the universal binary. Word '04 makes the fans on my MB scream like you wouldn't believe. And it's so SLOW! Anything doc containing images and it's beach ball of death while i scroll around 
. I am seriously considering moving to oo.
. I am seriously considering moving to oo.
A rather asenine comment if there ever was one.
Did you mean asinine as in devoid of intelligence?
People shouldn't be so harsh on MS. Office is a HUGE app that is being ported to a different platform with a new processor.
The quality of Office 2004 is a testimony to their dedication to the mac, it is probably better than its windows counterpart: 2003. It should also be noted that MS's dev process involves getting feedback from users, the developers actually blog! Compared to Apple's CIA secrecy it is a breath of fresh air.
So give them a break! Apple needs office more than office needs apple! If your stuck for a productivity suite check out open office/neo office. Whenever they get round to building a native version of this open source app MS will have a good deal of competition.
The quality of Office 2004 is a testimony to their dedication to the mac, it is probably better than its windows counterpart: 2003. It should also be noted that MS's dev process involves getting feedback from users, the developers actually blog! Compared to Apple's CIA secrecy it is a breath of fresh air.
So give them a break! Apple needs office more than office needs apple! If your stuck for a productivity suite check out open office/neo office. Whenever they get round to building a native version of this open source app MS will have a good deal of competition.
Apple announced its transition to Intel processors in June 2005. Microsoft has had over two years to get a universal binary of its suite converted over to the Intel architecture. Every other major application on the Mac has been converted to a UB, except Microsoft. It's embarrassing for the world's largest software developer to be last to this game.
Honestly, I feel that this proves just how lethargic and asleep at the switch Microsoft is right now. Vista's been a disappointment, even though it's sold well only because people buying new computers are forced to get it. Microsoft Office 2004 has a load a problems. One that especially annoys me as a network administrator is the way it behaves with network home directories.
Come January it better be ready and better work pretty damn good.
Honestly, I feel that this proves just how lethargic and asleep at the switch Microsoft is right now. Vista's been a disappointment, even though it's sold well only because people buying new computers are forced to get it. Microsoft Office 2004 has a load a problems. One that especially annoys me as a network administrator is the way it behaves with network home directories.
Come January it better be ready and better work pretty damn good.
Who Cares?
From what I understand Office is still the best selling piece of software for the Mac and that makes me sick.
I recently trashed my Office 04. It was dog slow compared to the rest of my apps. If Microsoft can't update their software to a Universal Binary then they definitely don't deserve my money for 2008. Yes, I understand that Adobe did the same for Photoshop, etc, but they had a lot more to convert / rewrite. Besides, it's hard to replace the entire Adobe Creative Suite. I now use either textedit, Pages, or Google Documents to open my word files and I use Google Spreadsheets to open the occasional excel file. I can't tell you when the last time I had to use a spreadsheet. There are sooooooo many other pieces of specialized math/calculating/accounting software out there, spreadsheets are obsolete. The only time I have to open an excel file is when someone creates a document in a spreadsheet because they don't know any better.
Use Keynote instead of Powerpoint and the only application you then have to replace is entourage, which I've never used.
Let's get Pages and Keynote on the Windows Platform and give MS Office a run for it's money.
From what I understand Office is still the best selling piece of software for the Mac and that makes me sick.
I recently trashed my Office 04. It was dog slow compared to the rest of my apps. If Microsoft can't update their software to a Universal Binary then they definitely don't deserve my money for 2008. Yes, I understand that Adobe did the same for Photoshop, etc, but they had a lot more to convert / rewrite. Besides, it's hard to replace the entire Adobe Creative Suite. I now use either textedit, Pages, or Google Documents to open my word files and I use Google Spreadsheets to open the occasional excel file. I can't tell you when the last time I had to use a spreadsheet. There are sooooooo many other pieces of specialized math/calculating/accounting software out there, spreadsheets are obsolete. The only time I have to open an excel file is when someone creates a document in a spreadsheet because they don't know any better.
Use Keynote instead of Powerpoint and the only application you then have to replace is entourage, which I've never used.
Let's get Pages and Keynote on the Windows Platform and give MS Office a run for it's money.
Re: NeoOffice/OpenOffice... the word processor is fine, but their spreadsheets are dodgy and the less said about the slideshow/presentation package the better. Fortunately of course we do have Keynote, which is lovely (and I'm speaking as someone who lived and worked for years with PowerPoint and actually quite likes it).
Re: Office 2008... I'd be rather less brassed off about yet another trademark delay if Microsoft were able to release a patch like they did for Office 2000/XP/2003 on Windows that gave Office 2004 the ability to open docx/xlsx/pptx files. Their "drag-and-drop" utility is a) awkward to use and b ) has never worked successfully for me on any file I've tried it with.
Re: Office 2008... I'd be rather less brassed off about yet another trademark delay if Microsoft were able to release a patch like they did for Office 2000/XP/2003 on Windows that gave Office 2004 the ability to open docx/xlsx/pptx files. Their "drag-and-drop" utility is a) awkward to use and b ) has never worked successfully for me on any file I've tried it with.
Personally I don't care how long the delay is, I think the new U.I. is absolutely sh*t ... (that's assuming it is the same as Office 2007 for the PC) Yuuuuk.
(that's assuming it is the same as Office 2007 for the PC) Yuuuuk.perhaps this means i'tll be bug free upon release...
oh wait, never mind.
its a shame that its taking them so long. i mean Adobe was able to release their new package sooner! and they had a LOT more to do imo.
oh wait, never mind.
its a shame that its taking them so long. i mean Adobe was able to release their new package sooner! and they had a LOT more to do imo.
Personally I don't care how long the delay is, I think the new U.I. is absolutely sh*t ...
It isn't:
It's like a cross between Office 2007 on Windows and Office 2004 on Mac. Personally I quite like the Office 2007 ribbon interface, anyway... it makes editing certain types of document much quicker and cleaner, and it's much easier for Office newbies to get to grips with than the classic Office plethora of menus and hidden options buried deep within arcane control panels.
I'm glad to hear that ....It isn't:
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It's like a cross between Office 2007 on Windows and Office 2004 on Mac. Personally I quite like the Office 2007 ribbon interface, anyway... it makes editing certain types of document much quicker and cleaner, and it's much easier for Office newbies to get to grips with than the classic Office plethora of menus and hidden options buried deep within arcane control panels.
I installed Office 2007 running through parallels on my Mac Mini just to see what it was like ...... Sorry I think the new user interface is grim.