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Microsoft Office 2008 Delayed Until January 2008
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There really wasn't much surprise in that announcement.
However, the MacBU do a good job with Office - it's usually a solid, reliable suite.
I have canned all Microsoft products on MacOS completely. I use Adium instead of MSN, and OpenOffice (OOo) Aqua instead of MS Office.
OOo's Aqua port is an improvement on NeoOffice, but I hope NeoOffice continue using the Aqua port instead of a Java base, as I like the look of Neo over OOo.
The only reason I keep MS Office on my Boot Camp partition is that sometimes both NeoOffice and OpenOffice have a habit of bloating a file saved as a .doc way out of proportion.
However, the MacBU do a good job with Office - it's usually a solid, reliable suite.
I have canned all Microsoft products on MacOS completely. I use Adium instead of MSN, and OpenOffice (OOo) Aqua instead of MS Office.
OOo's Aqua port is an improvement on NeoOffice, but I hope NeoOffice continue using the Aqua port instead of a Java base, as I like the look of Neo over OOo.
The only reason I keep MS Office on my Boot Camp partition is that sometimes both NeoOffice and OpenOffice have a habit of bloating a file saved as a .doc way out of proportion.
Not PowerPoint. Try to do an actual presentation to an audience (not just opening a file at home). Lags while switching slides are not OK but still tolerable; the worst part comes when the presentation is over and a question from the audience is addressed such that a particular slide needs to be quickly accessed (happens every time). You go to the slide sorter view to pick the slide and.... and.... and.... and.... the pause is embarrassing, especially that this same operation is an order of magnitude faster on a cheap Dell laptop.
Actually neither use Cocoa much at all. And there is little reason for them to do so. The issue wasn't Carbon or Cocoa - its XCode vs CodeWarrior. Just vastly different environments with different compilers and so on. Personally, I think their issues are with the 2007 file format.
I started off really liking the ribbon interface. However, when I started doing some heavy spreadsheeting, it got extremely annoying switching between the 2 tabs that i use most often. For most people this should not be an issue, but I dont think the new interface is very suitable for heavy users of Office.
I cant really speak about the mac version, but I dislike the iWork style Inspector. Not a big fan of tabs (same issue as the ribbon!). iWork though digs itself out of this hole by allowing multiple inspectors, which i think works great. Hopefullfy Office '08 will do the same.
On another note, does anyone know if there is any way to read VBA in 08, thru a plugin or something?
I'm not sure where you get your info but works is NOT bundled with vista. Sure it comes on mostnew PC's but that is up to the OEM not something in vista by default.
Wrong - Intuit has yet to convert Quicken, or even announce an intent to do so. Plus the feature disparity between Mac Quicken and Windows Quicken is leagues beyond Office.
It's a delay, folks. Software development is an area in which you can be almost guaranteed this will happen. Windows Vista was delayed like a motherf***. Does that mean Microsoft didn't care about Windows?
that word cracks me up.
Anyway, Word is really slow and Powerpoint is actually embarrassing to use (as said earlier). Excel is OK. C'mon!
I would like MSN webcam support, although I seem to have gotten over this now.
Yup. Hammer, meet nail's head.
I think in the end it boils down to what specifically you do as a heavy user. For example I am in Excel for no less than 3-4 hours a day 5 days a week but don't find myself switching back and forth between the same ribbons a lot. I have gotten most of my files automated to the point I only have to update figures everything else is handled automatically including self updating charts etc.
What would be nice is if they added an extra ribbon that you could add any functions you wanted. I have had a couple times where a seldomly used feature gets hard to find again.
i think this is a great idea. look what happened with itunes and the ipod. once windows users got a taste of how apple implements software solutions, people got it.
while there is no ipod-like hook to get people hooked on iWork as was the case with iTunes, i still think iWork would be a hit with windows users. just paves the way for switchers!
-kyle
Well, that sucks. I actually like Word for Mac, but I don't mind Pages too much. If Apple beefs up iWork (adding a spreadsheet program and a few more features to Pages), I might just completely switch to that.
Optional download with iTunes?
Not sure, but I am sure there is some legitimate way of advertising it.... OMG... advertise it in iTunes! (like the other news thread)
Am I the only one that absolutely despises Pages? I mean, what a piece of crap. That inspector is worse then the ribbon, and functions seem to me to be more hidden then any version of Office I have ever used.
And to the guy who said spreadsheets are a thing of the pass, grow up and go to any corporation in their financial department, and you will see that, that is all they pass stuff around on. Sure they use SAP et all, but any exporting is done to a spreadsheet to be analyzed.
And to the guy who said spreadsheets are a thing of the pass, grow up and go to any corporation in their financial department, and you will see that, that is all they pass stuff around on. Sure they use SAP et all, but any exporting is done to a spreadsheet to be analyzed.
What happens when you jump directly to the slide in question by typing in the slide number and hitting Enter (while in presentation view)? Is it still laggy?
Keep a paper copy of your slide order so you know what slide numbers to go to... This looks MIGHTY impressive to your audience, by the way. I did the slide changes for a presenter from the computer in the back, and at the end he was trying to refer to something and said "Can we please go to slide ... 12?" I just hit 1-2-Enter and bam! Slide 12 was on the screen, and there was actually an audible gasp from the audience that I didn't have to either jump to the slide sorter view or do the flip-flip-flip thing in front of everyone.
Probably the best hidden feature in PowerPoint (Keynote too I believe).
Hmm...well since 10.5 was also pushed back and off of schedule does this mean that Steve Jobs also doesn't care about Mac people?
Meh...
I've been perfectly happy with office 2004... heck, I'm still using office X on one of my computers.
IMHO, office pretty much peaked around 1995. Everything since then has been pretty much just shinier versions of previous suites.
Now, Apple, let's get to work on making iWork a better product (speciically Pages... Keynote already rocks!)
I've been perfectly happy with office 2004... heck, I'm still using office X on one of my computers.
IMHO, office pretty much peaked around 1995. Everything since then has been pretty much just shinier versions of previous suites.
Now, Apple, let's get to work on making iWork a better product (speciically Pages... Keynote already rocks!)
It is a nice tip. I did not know about this feature - thanks! I bet ya that many (most) presenters do not know about this feature as well. Still, there are moments when I wish that Powerpoint was faster.
If you're referring to the comparative percentage of resources that Microsoft as a whole has dedicated to Mac development, that's perfectly reasonable. They're not Adobe - it's not like 25% or whatever of their Office users are Mac, as is the case with Photoshop.
If you're referring to the MacBU, I think it's abundantly clear from their blog postings that they do care, passionately, about what they're doing. I wouldn't want anyone else working on this piece of software.