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Microsoft Office 2010 to Gain Free Web-Based Components
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It appears Microsoft may have learned from it's previous "Office Live" false start, where the online apps were trumpeted as "free" like Google Docs.... but you could only use it if you owned the desktop version of Office.
I'm a bit conflicted about all this. I do use Gmail, so my mail is out there "in the cloud" - but from a security standpoint I'm not super comfortable with having all my personal documents out there, since the security model still seems to be developing (yeah, I know I'm not being consistent). Plus - perhaps more importantly - when I've used the online versions of desktop apps, it's been apparent that the functionality is still somewhat lacking.
I'm a bit conflicted about all this. I do use Gmail, so my mail is out there "in the cloud" - but from a security standpoint I'm not super comfortable with having all my personal documents out there, since the security model still seems to be developing (yeah, I know I'm not being consistent). Plus - perhaps more importantly - when I've used the online versions of desktop apps, it's been apparent that the functionality is still somewhat lacking.
I don't think it's that easy. Most Microsoft software for the Mac is done by the MBU (silverlight may be the sole exception) - they are a seperate team at Microsoft. The last time any other team developed Mac software was (I believe) Windows media player - a joke of a program that, typical for Microsoft, shared little with Windows and anything it did share was poorly done. My reading on the subject is that the two different teams take different approaches to Office and do not work for a direct translation. THe interface paradigmes of the the platforms alone (along with their different codebases) make that goal largely impractical.
That's the other reason. One of Microsoft's biggest cash cows is Office - and they maintain that by focusing on its development along with almost every other Microsoft product) on the Windows side of things. The best way that Microsoft maintains it's market psition is to tie Windows to software products (like Office) to one platform completely. Any other support is secondary. Microsoft rarely achieves feature parity on other platforms with the same product (Messenger, Office).
On any pc or mac
Video at 1:30
"Isn't it great to know that you can access your office files from anywhere directly in a browser and quickly make some changes on any pc or mac."
http://www.microsoft.com/video/en/us/details/8ec069ad-64b2-4eae-80f3-ad4db50b1e37
Video at 1:30
"Isn't it great to know that you can access your office files from anywhere directly in a browser and quickly make some changes on any pc or mac."
http://www.microsoft.com/video/en/us/details/8ec069ad-64b2-4eae-80f3-ad4db50b1e37
Since online security has come to the point of being nearly godlike in its perfection, with reports of hacking to be urban legends at best, I will, of course, only use MS Office in online format when the service is released.
Its Microsh*t.
Pardon me for asking, but how could you reach that conclusion from the OP where they specifically mention that:
Emphasis mine. Thats the exact opposite from what you think is happening.
Technically all your email is out there in the cloud, regardless of ISP/Search engine.
Are you dense? Did you even read the post?
It clearly stated that they are going to provide a Mac version, how in the name of all that is holy can you transform that statement into MS trying to lock in the user to Windows and not thinking about the customer?
I would have expected comments like that if MS HAD OPTED TO MAKE IT WINDOWS ONLY, but the case is not so!
There's no Mac or Windows version of Office Web. They are all AJAX, it would run on any browser that can do AJAX well on any OS.
The question is the ability to create new Docs and use the advanced features. It will be like very limited to what it can do. The question is, will you need to use the Office Desktop Suite to create new docs and to use the advanced stuff in order to upload it to the Office Web or can you create basic stuff on the Web as well.
Like Apple's iWork web, you can't create stuff on the web, you're still locked in with iWork app.
He has a valid point. How much of the features are locked in to Windows Desktop Office? How will it work with the Mac office Suite? We may be seeing three different versions of suite that has different limitions: Web, Windows Client and Mac client since both Windows and Mac clients are not the same.
Hmmm. According to that video, they don't mention what limits the Mac has (if any) since they only show demos on Windows (probably running Windows 7). They only say these programs are available:
* Word (which is available on the Mac)
* Excel (available on the Mac but with a different feature set than the PC version)
* Powerpoint (available on the Mac)
* One Note (not available on the Mac)
The video did not go into detail on how you would deal with OneNote on the Mac but they did talk about Sharepoint server - which is Windows only too.
I'm a big fan of Open Office. It's free, will open MS files, and you can always save to PDF to preserve format. We'll see how it compares...
Of course I should point out that PDF's are not really intended to be editied in the same way that Word files are. They are different document types.
Well aware, but when you just want to send something for viewing, like a resume, it's a perfect format, no compatibility issues.
The last people you'd expect to do something with cloud computing has done something with it. Hopefully this will be a full-featured thing and not something that has the capabilities of a trial version.
I haven't ... and was considering trying it, but all the negative press it's received since release makes me wonder if I should wait til the next Mac version.
Perhaps it's been asked before - forgive me - but why isn't there an Outlook equivalent for the Mac?
Here are some videos i found if anyone wants
http://lifehacker.com/5313850/microsoft-office-2010-in-videos
and here
http://scobleizer.com/2009/07/13/mi...ngs-office-back-from-the-dead-tons-of-videos/
They said it will work with the iphone so i think they have a leg up on most of the other competitors in the mobile space.
http://lifehacker.com/5313850/microsoft-office-2010-in-videos
and here
http://scobleizer.com/2009/07/13/mi...ngs-office-back-from-the-dead-tons-of-videos/
They said it will work with the iphone so i think they have a leg up on most of the other competitors in the mobile space.
One big reason was to protect outlook on the PC (namely Exchange), but the official answer from Microsoft is:
Mmhmm, like Apple doesn't make Apple exclusive software. NOT AT ALL, who would have thought Apple would do such a thing!
Honestly, it wouldn't phase me if Microsoft would make a Microsoft only suite like this, or give those who use Windows, a bit of an advantage, because they're using their OS.
Just because Macs will get these features a few months later, it doesn't make Microsoft the bad guys, look at how poorly Apple can treat its customers at times.
I'm drawing conclusions based on the rather conflicting stories I've been seeing on this topic.
Basically this WebMonkey story seems to differ somewhat with what I've read in the mainstream media (for what THAT'S worth... hehe).Thing is, I have a hard time believing even Microsoft could be stupid enough to repeat the failed model of the previous Office Live. The WebMonkey post is the only version (so far) I've seen that mentions this new web version still being tied directly to desktop Office.
But, on the other hand, I understand that Office is Microsoft's big cash cow - and that sort of thing has been known to interfere with intelligent decision making.
So until this is actually released, we likely won't know how much (if at all) this is bound to the desktop version.
I just want a version of mac office that works, with all the features of the current level on a pc, at the same time it's released for PC users. making us wait maybe a year, who knows is just garbage. this never ending battle between MS and Apple is just creating living hells for all of us who have to play nice together, or lose income. Egotistical maniacal crap, that's what it's all about. If you don't have TOC hyperlinks in your document on the mac side but do on the pc side, all a MVP can say is sorry 'bout that, talk to the boss. Nuts!
You guys do realize that there is a early version of Office Live that you can use now - http://www.officelive.com. The only editing you can do is for text files but you can view Word and Excel files and it is not tied to any desktop versions at all. I am assuming the new product will be very similar to what is there now except it will allow additional editing capability.
Well I take that back - I did have it working under Safari. But it doesn't seem to want to do that now.
Well I take that back - I did have it working under Safari. But it doesn't seem to want to do that now.
It's Microsoft.. we can be pretty sure without knowing any details. When do they ever get anything right?