philstubbington
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Good point about OneDrive too - must move my stuff over to iCloud too.
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Microsoft Office 2019 for Mac Will Soon Stop Letting You Edit Documents
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I switched to Apple's suite a long time ago.
Sure, there are some functional disparities but I cant see Apple pulling this sort of stunt.
Software from just 7 years ago no longer functions? theres no technical reason behind this whatsoever.
back in the day I used a very old version of Microsoft Word and although clunky and lacking modern features at least it worked.
Sure, there are some functional disparities but I cant see Apple pulling this sort of stunt.
Software from just 7 years ago no longer functions? theres no technical reason behind this whatsoever.
back in the day I used a very old version of Microsoft Word and although clunky and lacking modern features at least it worked.
MikeZTM
macrumors 6502
Today there’s only 1 version of Office. It’s the Office 365 rolling release. All those Office 2016/2019/2021/2024 releases are feature flag variant of the Office 365 and they becomes a snapshot version at some point that will never receive any non-security bug fixes.
That’s why you never receive any useful fixes. You have to use the subscription based version to get reasonable bug fixes.
Funny the battles some people pick to fight...
There are plenty of deals for M365 for as low as $50/yr. As soon as your Amazon subscription ends, cancel it. You make everything so hard...
Any software with certificate-based license or protocol requirements that don't allow user updates of those certificates is at risk.
I expect versions of MacOS prior to Catalina will see degradation next year. Not read-only mode but things like FaceTime, Messages, and other services may become inaccessible.
kiranmk2
macrumors 68020
Hopefully this will get picked up by the mainstream media and cause Microsoft to back down. Otherwise, exactly the same thing will happen to Office 2021 in a few years time...
Office 2021 loses support and updates in Oct 2026. The cert is fine but will be EOL.
Here's a $10 fix:
Microsoft Office Standard 2024 for Mac + VMware Fusion 13 Pro (1 Mac, Lifetime) - SoftMall.us
Microsoft Office Standard 2024 for Mac + VMware Fusion 13 Pro Lifetime license for 1 Mac — no subscription Includes Word, Excel, PowerPoint, Outlook Run Windows, Linux and other virtual machines on your Mac with VMware Fusion Compatible with Intel and Apple Silicon Macs Instant digital delivery...
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trusso
macrumors 6502a
Microsoft: "Our hands are tied!"
Yes, by your own selves. You can easily untie them.
Yes, by your own selves. You can easily untie them.
Microsoft seems to do really great choices at the moment, they have a run.
They just don't have a monopoly anymore, but they still seem to think they do.
They just don't have a monopoly anymore, but they still seem to think they do.
daneoni
macrumors G5
Now i remember why i stopped paying for 365 and moved to Google Docs/iWork.
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sw1tcher
macrumors 604
Sadly, Apple is moving in the same direction as everyone else. It's all about recurring revenue whether it's from ads
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or from subscriptions.
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It’s stuff like this that keep me using Apple’s Pages and other parts of its productivity suite. I can save documents in formats fully compatible with Microsoft Word and Office. The best part is that I don’t require any new features that will require a subscription.
Here's a $10 fix:
Microsoft Office Standard 2024 for Mac + VMware Fusion 13 Pro (1 Mac, Lifetime) - SoftMall.us
Microsoft Office Standard 2024 for Mac + VMware Fusion 13 Pro Lifetime license for 1 Mac — no subscription Includes Word, Excel, PowerPoint, Outlook Run Windows, Linux and other virtual machines on your Mac with VMware Fusion Compatible with Intel and Apple Silicon Macs Instant digital delivery...softmall.us
Two problems with that fix:
1. Same thing will likely happen with that version in the future -- as others have said we no longer have an option for a one-time purchase but rather we're just buying subscriptions with longer renewal periods
2. Not everyone has a computer that can run Office 2024 and they were happy running Office 2019 on their current computer
awshucks
macrumors 6502a
Pay for Office and have it stop working. Meanwhile you always have access to the free Pages, Numbers, and Keynote, and they're lighter apps that run better too.
Between cookies and authentication certificates, they have the ability. Do they have the right? The courts will decide that. Imagine if Ford, GM, etc., all suddenly disabled every vehicle made prior to 2019.
What you write is absolutely true. But the $10 solution is a fair price to stretch things out for a few more years - for those who can do it. Regrettably, time is running out for many people who like to run the same computer for a full decade.
This is why MS sucks!! Software that is only 7 years old, works perfectly fine but is killed by the company due to a cert issue that is easily fixed but they choose not to in order to force you into some new subscription model!! The whole PC/Software industry is in a death spiral driven by greed and more subscriptions. I'd just stick with Google Docs before using MS again!
After about 35 years of using Windows on my desktop PC (in the very early days my tower PC) I moved to MacOS about a month ago and decided to go 100% all-in with the Apple ecosystem so as I type this my transfer of just under 150,000 emails from Gmail to iCloud mail is still running (Google throttles big transfers), I'm moving all of my passwords to Apple Passwords, I've moved all of my notes from OneNote to Apple Notes, I've transferred all of my bookmarks from Microsoft Edge to Safari (none of that is as quick as it could be because I'm not just exporting & re-importing everything, I'm using it as an excuse to tidy up lots of stuff along the way).
I'm also in the process of re-implementing my most complex Excel spreadsheets from scratch in Numbers (the ones that broke when I tried to import them as-is into Numbers). I'm working on the final and most complex of them in another window right now. I've actually come to quite like Numbers now that I've become more familiar with it and, even though I actually have the Microsoft 365 version of Office via a paid subscription, this news about Microsoft screwing over lifetime license owners is giving me just that little bit of extra satisfaction from what I'm doing at the moment.
As soon as I'm done I'll be cancelling my M365 subscription. Sadly it still has about 9 months to run and I'm pretty sure that you can't get part-year refunds (although I will check) but at least that'll be one less subscription to pay next year.
Right, it's back to project AME ("Abandon Microsoft Excel") for me (I never really used any of the other MS Office apps anyway)....
I'm also in the process of re-implementing my most complex Excel spreadsheets from scratch in Numbers (the ones that broke when I tried to import them as-is into Numbers). I'm working on the final and most complex of them in another window right now. I've actually come to quite like Numbers now that I've become more familiar with it and, even though I actually have the Microsoft 365 version of Office via a paid subscription, this news about Microsoft screwing over lifetime license owners is giving me just that little bit of extra satisfaction from what I'm doing at the moment.
As soon as I'm done I'll be cancelling my M365 subscription. Sadly it still has about 9 months to run and I'm pretty sure that you can't get part-year refunds (although I will check) but at least that'll be one less subscription to pay next year.
Right, it's back to project AME ("Abandon Microsoft Excel") for me (I never really used any of the other MS Office apps anyway)....
DocMultimedia
macrumors 68030
Can you get around this by manually setting the clock on your computer? I used that trick many years ago for one program that I rarely needed.
In any case, I haven't used any MS stuff in a loooong time.
In any case, I haven't used any MS stuff in a loooong time.
DominikHoffmann
macrumors 6502a
Would finding the location of the corresponding certificate in an Office 2021 or 2024 and manually copying it the right location in an Office 2019 work? Maybe someone will share that certificate with the world…