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Office for Mac still sucks compared to the Windows versions. Don't get me wrong it's gotten a lot better but there are some dumb missing features that you'd think MS could easily put on the Mac versions, but choose not to. Also some existing features simply work better on Windows.
 
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Office for Mac still sucks compared to the Windows versions. Don't get me wrong it's gotten a lot better but there are some dumb missing features that you'd think MS could easily put on the Mac versions, but choose not to. Also some existing features simply work better on Windows.
I completely agree. I had to exchange my work MacBook Pro for a Windows laptop because of increased EXCEL work. EXCEL on Mac just wasn't cutting it for me. I tired to keep both laptops but it had to be approved by the CIO....
 
I'm glad I'm not in a work situation where I have to use a Mac and integrate in a Windows environment.

I get a work-issued PC, and that's just fine by me.

I tried to use a Mac for work and it was painful, not because of the Mac but because of the Enterprise's ubiquity of Windows and the issues with using Mac versions of Windows software, like Office.

They are simply not the same.

Microsoft software runs best on Microsoft products unless you're Boot Camping, which in my opinion is the way to go if you're using a Mac. Oh, yeah, about that...
 
I absolutely agree with everything you stated. The issue is pirating is what created this subscription model. While I don't like subs myself (especially for Office apps) I can't blame Microsoft. There a lot of people on this very forum that install Windows and use it without activating it. If companies don't make money they can't pay their developers and the customer gets forced into a subscription model.
Is it your opinion that piracy was the reason Microsoft went to a subscription model or do you have a link to a Microsoft press release indicating that was the reason?
 
I absolutely agree with everything you stated. The issue is pirating is what created this subscription model. While I don't like subs myself (especially for Office apps) I can't blame Microsoft. There a lot of people on this very forum that install Windows and use it without activating it. If companies don't make money they can't pay their developers and the customer gets forced into a subscription model.
It's related to revenue, not piracy. M$ can make more money forcing users to pay for an app every month over and over instead of just once.
 
It tells you what everyone already knows, people who want to do real work use Office.
I always find comments such "real work" that has Office in it humorous. Many people use the basic functions of a word processing application such as Page, Word, etc. I guess people who are using the iPadOS version of Microsoft Office on are not doing real work. :p

If you find some platform or other software limiting for what your purposes, it does not mean others have a requirement for those additional features/functions and are not "doing real work".

I like volunteering my time and efforts, I don't get paid and to me its "real work" but to another it may not be because their may define "real work" as being paid. Then again I maybe getting paid for something I do not consider "real work".

Seriously why do you feel the need to insult other users who do not have complex Office processing requirements.
 
It's related to revenue, not piracy. M$ can make more money forcing users to pay for an app every month over and over instead of just once.
Looks good for the quarterly reports for shareholders. ;)

Poor Microsoft :( Your post made me so sad.

Microsoft is doomed. /s

Agreed. I found it hard trying to get Numbers to behave the same as EXCEL.

Apple needs to give a little more love to Numbers. I find out of the iWorks apps, Keynote is their shining star, then Pages and then the forgotten child Numbers.

LMAO iWork is a joke for anything more than writing a middle school essay.

You are using it wrong. :p
 
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Is it your opinion that piracy was the reason Microsoft went to a subscription model or do you have a link to a Microsoft press release indicating that was the reason?
Firstly you're not the judge & jury here. I hate when people question someone making them show proof. Why don't you ask yourself why Microsoft would create a subscription model for Office? What benefit would the consumer get out of this by paying monthly/annually for software they will never "own" and it's not theirs to continue using without an active subscription.
 
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They should have made a completely free version long ago. Like Visual Studio.
No company wants to pay for an office and just start looking for a replacement. This is something like Facebook, at first it was good until they start making money on you.
 
Is this what Microsoft said, because how would they explain this to a paying consumer?
I'm not sure what you're asking. Did Microsoft say "We're doing this to make more money"? No. The way they explain it to a paying customer is like most subscription model advocates: "We've found that our customers prefer subscriptions! You're going to love it!" I don't think we should base our assessment of their motives on what they *say*...a corporation is seldom going to tell customers the real reasons behind such decisions. It's all about spin.
 
I had promised myself I was gonna put the on premise version of Office 2019 on my M1, but ended up using my remaining your out of my MSDN sub. I do have 3 years of subs I got through the company store. But, would like to get a copy of this before my sub is up so I can use it as alternative when my subs run out.
 
I'm not sure what you're asking. Did Microsoft say "We're doing this to make more money"? No. The way they explain it to a paying customer is like most subscription model advocates: "We've found that our customers prefer subscriptions! You're going to love it!" I don't think we should base our assessment of their motives on what they *say*...a corporation is seldom going to tell customers the real reasons behind such decisions. It's all about spin.
In other words it's just as I was accused of stating....an opinion. Your post states no validated facts anymore than mine.
 
In other words it's just as I was accused of stating....an opinion. Your post states no validated facts anymore than mine.
oh my gosh, of course not! isn't that what the internet is...opinions? I mean, it's easy enough to calculate the revenue from a subscription model by comparing the length of subscription that equates to the one-time purchase cost. In the case of Office Home, one-time purchase is currently $149; Office 365 Personal subscription is $6.99/month (or $69.99 annually). So after about 2 years, customers are spending more (and Microsoft is making more) via the subscription model. Since I'm still using Office 2016, I would've paid more than double, and still counting, if I went subscription.
 
oh my gosh, of course not! isn't that what the internet is...opinions? I mean, it's easy enough to calculate the revenue from a subscription model by comparing the length of subscription that equates to the one-time purchase cost. In the case of Office Home, one-time purchase is currently $149; Office 365 Personal subscription is $6.99/month (or $69.99 annually). So after about 2 years, customers are spending more (and Microsoft is making more) via the subscription model. Since I'm still using Office 2016, I would've paid more than double, and still counting, if I went subscription.
It’s like paying more for something that lasts longer compared to paying less and have to replace it sooner.
 
LMAO iWork is a joke for anything more than writing a middle school essay.
Recent conversation with a co-worker:
Me: “But it’s a Numbers file.”
CW: “Great, I’m good with Numbers.”
Me: “No, Apple Numbers, like Excel.”
CW: “Does Apple use different numbers for Excel?”
Me: “No, the application.”
CW: “Ah the currency and date formats?”
Me: “No, it’s an actual spreadsheet app called Numbers”
CW: “???”
Me: “Let me just send you an Excel.”
 
The latest Big Sur Outlook seems to have fixed the horrible search function.

I’m really liking the work Microsoft has done on Office for Mac of late. I’m probably in the minority though!
 
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Recent conversation with a co-worker:
Me: “But it’s a Numbers file.”
CW: “Great, I’m good with Numbers.”
Me: “No, Apple Numbers, like Excel.”
CW: “Does Apple use different numbers for Excel?”
Me: “No, the application.”
CW: “Ah the currency and date formats?”
Me: “No, it’s an actual spreadsheet app called Numbers”
CW: “???”
Me: “Let me just send you an Excel.”
If the other person is a Windows user, how would you expect that person to open Number's file? This is annoying for me when during collaboration situations, that one Apple user is sending Pages files. This is also why we nudge people to just use Google Docs. No confusion about the files, just open the link in a browser and edit things right there and then.
 
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