I doubt Adobe would ever go back to their less profitable perpetual model. With practically very little to no competition on their professional apps, even the pros are willingly move into the subscription model.
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Microsoft Office 2021 Coming to macOS and Windows Later This Year
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You know that it's so easy to export iWork files as PowerPoint, Excel, Word file easily, right?
What are the implications of this for the software itself? I.e., if you know it's going to be non-updateable, how do you make it different from Office 365? Basically, it sounds like they have to get it right the first time (no updates to fix major bugs). But given they can't do that for Office 365, how are they going to do this for Office 2021? Do they distinguish a "core" part of Office that works reliably and offer just that?
And if you can connect to the internet, will it be updateable?
Tell that to Apple users who keep sending their native files. It's not us, Windows users' fault.
Web version of Office is free, just like Google Docs.
Enterprise volume licenses are Microsoft's main bread and butter, so companies are willing to pay for it.
I tried opening and using my budget Excel spreadsheet in Numbers and gave up after a few days. Formatting messed up and figuring out basic formulas was frustrating.
just because some of us want a non subscription option from adobe does not mean they will not be updated with new features. My Gosh
Awesome! I honestly thought office 2019 would be the last office available as a stand alone before they move to web browser based office. That will probably happen when 6G rolls out.
I love it when people downvote pro Adobe posts. It’s good feedback to see how people become deranged by the idea of paying a cheap subscription for high quality industry leading software.
Can the guts of office be reprogrammed in JavaScript and be indistinguishable ftt try on prior releases?
TBH, Numbers, Pages, Word are stupid names for the Apps.
But in some ways I am lately using Numbers and Pages more and more, just because they are faster on Mac and have less features, the only thing I really miss is the Pivot table, and they are much better solutions that people give them credit for.
In some ways Excel, Word are too bloated and have too many functions that most people do not use!
ps: Does anybody know, can you send emails automatically directly with Mail, Pages and emails in Numbers app, similar how you send automatically emails with Word, Excel and Outllok?
What people need to understand is that subscriptions are one-time purchases that you pay monthly. Forever. It's that simple.
What are you talking about? They provide updates for bug fixes like usual. The biggest differentiator between standalone and 365 is the online support, such as multiple users updating the same document simultaneously and being able to view that live for collaboration as well as cloud syncing. This is no different than any of their prior office standalone vs 365 releases. This isn’t a “new” implementation for them.
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Wouldn't VM be practically indistinguishable with native with the way M1 is going? curious, haven't tried it yet.
MS is a big contributor and user to Linux, the days of the Bill Gates letter are gone....
Tough to imagine what possible usable new features that I'd actually care about would be implemented. I expect this will mostly be a UI polish job, with likely a few more horizontal toolbars yielding even less space to do your work in. The only reason I've upgraded Office in the last 15 years is because an OS upgrade rendered what I had nonfunctional.
Neat! So I'm definitely going to get 2021 then!
And yeah, CONCAT is designed to replace CONCATENATE, simplifying your formulas. The main enhancement is that CONCAT allows you to join text from a range in addition to defined cells. So, =CONCATENATE(A1, B1, A2, B2, A3, B3) becomes =CONCAT(A1:B3). Definitely worth taking a look:
CONCAT function - Microsoft Support
The CONCAT function combines the text from multiple ranges and/or strings, but it doesn't provide delimiter or IgnoreEmpty arguments.
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Still using Office 2011 on both of our Macbooks. Was close to moving to one of the open source or Apple apps, but since this still works, nothing extra to do.
Then again, I just moved to Mojave.
Then again, I just moved to Mojave.
Doesn't answer why a Linux user want a closed source MS Office. There are plenty of free open source alternative, and there is Google Docs.
MS Office is still superior as much as I hate to say this...nothing wrong with using closed source in Linux.
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I honestly don't know, I don't have an M1 Mac... yet.
I'm waiting for the redesign, although I'm also waiting for the iPad Pro redesign so I can decide which to use (at home).
Still, in this case for me is irrelevant, I don't use Macs for (my) work.
In any case, I think it's a matter of time before Windows is running (well) on a Mac.
The other person is a long-time Mac user also – just shows you that the naming of the iWork Apps (Pages, Numbers & Keynote) doesn’t work in a normal conversation.
