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I mainly pay yearly for Office 365 for the OneDrive storage. Other services charge the same amount for 1TB but with MS I get Office as a bonus.
Is the sync faster now? I had some very slow and bad experiences a couple of years ago and stopped using it (even though it’s still included in my subscription).
 
Neat! So I'm definitely going to get 2021 then!

And yeah, CONCAT is designed to replace CONCATENATE, simplifying your formulas. The main enhancement is that CONCAT allows you to join text from a range in addition to defined cells. So, =CONCATENATE(A1, B1, A2, B2, A3, B3) becomes =CONCAT(A1:B3). Definitely worth taking a look:


That works in Mac Office 2019, I just checked for you (but I don't know what I'd use it for, as I'd have already assumed it would have worked for CONCATENATE and never had a need).
 
I mainly pay yearly for Office 365 for the OneDrive storage. Other services charge the same amount for 1TB but with MS I get Office as a bonus.
Agreed. The OneDrive storage is one of the reasons I subscribed to MS365, and having the desktop office apps is like a huge icing on the cake.
 
What are you talking about? They provide updates for bug fixes like usual. The biggest differentiator between standalone and 365 is the online support, such as multiple users updating the same document simultaneously and being able to view that live for collaboration as well as cloud syncing. This is no different than any of their prior office standalone vs 365 releases. This isn’t a “new” implementation for them.
You are wrong. You can sign into Office 365 account with stand alone versions and use all of the features you mentioned, including automatic saves.

This works with at least 2016 and higher. I believe it works with 2013 on the PC.

Office 365 versions constantly get updated with new features that the stand alone versions do not get. Most of them are not great but some are. The UI also gets updated/changed.

Office stand alone is stuck in time with features but get bug and security updates for 5 years or more. The UI never changes until the next update.
 
Is the sync faster now? I had some very slow and bad experiences a couple of years ago and stopped using it (even though it’s still included in my subscription).
Yes they merged consumer and business onto it me platform 4-5 years ago. The merge took about a year. It’s all Exchange email and Sharepoint Online. OneDrive sits on top of Sharepoint.
 
You are wrong. You can sign into Office 365 account with stand alone versions and use all of the features you mentioned, including automatic saves.

This works with at least 2016 and higher. I believe it works with 2013 on the PC.

Office 365 versions constantly get updated with new features that the stand alone versions do not get. Most of them are not great but some are. The UI also gets updated/changed.

Office stand alone is stuck in time with features but get bug and security updates for 5 years or more. The UI never changes until the next update.
Did you actually read anything I wrote and the message I was replying to?

"You are wrong. You can sign into Office 365 account with stand alone versions and use all of the features you mentioned, including automatic saves." --- So that means you have Office 365 and not the standalone by itself, can you do that without an Office 365 account?

"Office stand alone is stuck in time with features but get bug and security updates for 5 years or more. The UI never changes until the next update." --- That's what I said, it gets bug fixes.
 
Now if we can just get Adobe to do the same.
+1 a million times over... a transition path to Apple silicon from my LR6 perpetual license would be extremely welcomed. At this point it'll be virtualized hackintosh until a better 3rd party comes along. Left in limbo land since I have a dying 2012 MBP that's due for a refresh.

Edit: Anyone have any luck/experience with LR6 and Rosetta2?? Armintosh in the future?
Edit:Meant 2012, not 2021...
 
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Did you actually read anything I wrote and the message I was replying to?

"You are wrong. You can sign into Office 365 account with stand alone versions and use all of the features you mentioned, including automatic saves." --- So that means you have Office 365 and not the standalone by itself, can you do that without an Office 365 account?

"Office stand alone is stuck in time with features but get bug and security updates for 5 years or more. The UI never changes until the next update." --- That's what I said, it gets bug fixes.
Yes I read it. You can do all of the online collaboration you listed by using the stand alone versions. You do not need the Office 365 versions to do that. You just need an account.
 
It’ll be interesting to see what the roadmap is for office 365 cloud as they’ll need to be powerful compelling features coming down the line to compel people to stick with that model.

Arguably most people use Office features that have been there for decades.

For those of us who use windows in their work, this office release is twinned with a significant Windows release and my hope is that MS make this a landmark release where the UX is cleaned up, modernised and made consistent.
 
It’ll be interesting to see what the roadmap is for office 365 cloud as they’ll need to be powerful compelling features coming down the line to compel people to stick with that model.

Arguably most people use Office features that have been there for decades.

For those of us who use windows in their work, this office release is twinned with a significant Windows release and my hope is that MS make this a landmark release where the UX is cleaned up, modernised and made consistent.
For a lot of home users its the complete package of Office apps and 1TB of cloud storage. OneDrive has come a long way in terms of speed, reliability and features.

4-5 years ago Microsoft merged the consumer platforms and Enterprise platforms onto the same back end platform. Outlook dot com and Skydrive/OneDrive moved onto Exchange and Sharepoint as their back-end off of their legacy Hotmail infrastructure. Syncing got so much better from a speed perspective and reliability.

With things like versioning (ransomeware protection), recycle bin, personal vault, great file/folder sharing and better web apps that allow collaboration even for the consumer option it's a pretty compelling offer. The email that comes with the Microsoft offering, IMHO is better than iCloud email. Its just more reliable with a better spam filter. The Web mail vs iCloud is 1000x better than iCloud webmail in terms of UI, features and speed.

You can usually get the Office 365 personal, now called M365 Personal for $49 a year. For our family we use the Office365/M365 Home option with is 6 users, each with 1TB of storage for $99 a year.

If you are a iOS/Mac user I still recommend having some iCloud storage for photos and desktop sync between Mac's. The iOS Photos/Mac Photos sync and Photos App features on Mac is >>>>> than the OneDrive iOS app sync with Windows.

If you are a Windows user with iOS devices, the iOS OneDrive app can sync photos to OneDrive in cloud and then to your PC in the Windows 10 photos app. The OneDrive app photos Sync on iOS suffers from not being a 1st party app, so to get the sync to work you have to open the app and let it sync. Also, IMHO the Windows 10 Photo app is pure garbage.
 
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Tell that to Apple users who keep sending their native files. It's not us, Windows users' fault.
sucks to not think of doing that, in those case, you can upload it to iCloud.com, open/edit it or simply download as word file or pdf
 
Microsoft 365 Family Plan is damn cheap that provides Office and OneDrive 1TB for 6 people. I have no reason of buying the standalone package or choose another crappy service from Google.
 
What are you talking about? They provide updates for bug fixes like usual. The biggest differentiator between standalone and 365 is the online support, such as multiple users updating the same document simultaneously and being able to view that live for collaboration as well as cloud syncing. This is no different than any of their prior office standalone vs 365 releases. This isn’t a “new” implementation for them.
Did you even bother to read the article before responding to my post? It said "The software is designed for regulated devices that cannot accept feature updates for years at a time or for devices that are not connected to the internet."

That means, logically (assuming what's written is accurate), that they have to get the software right from the start (since whoever installs this on a non-updateable device is going to be stuck with any significant bugs present in the original release). And since they've not been able to make any version of Office 365 relatively bug-free, how are they going to achieve that for this product?
 
Long term release for creative apps? NO thanks. Creative software is highly complex and adding newer technology on a regular basis. The margin for bugs and errors is always present just as they are in a AAA game title. These need to be updated often! 👏👏

Creative Cloud lets you download previous year releases if you want something that isn’t going to get updated again.

Adobe apps have a preference in each app to download experimental features before release also. People who use them need updates too.

I only use a Photoshop on occasion for personal use, not for a business. There's no need for me to pay monthly and keep up-to-date for a product that I might use twice a month. If 32-Bit apps weren't killed off I'd still be using the copy of CS3 I bought ages ago; it does everything I need to.

I've tried Photoshop Elements and it's okay but it's a little too hand-holdy and"Babies first Photoshop" for my liking.
 
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I only use a Photoshop on occasion for personal use, not for a business. There's no need for me to pay monthly and keep up-to-date for a product that I might use twice a month. If 32-Bit apps weren't killed off I'd still be using the copy of CS3 I bought ages ago; it does everything I need to.

I've tried Photoshop Elements and it's okay but it's a little too hand-holdy and"Babies first Photoshop" for my liking.
Exactly! My copy of LR6 would suffice for an incredibly long time should it function on new OS and/or hardware. Adobe crippled it via 32bit installer, likely on purpose, so it requires a hack to install via 32bit, then port to 64bit, etc.

It's amazing to see people defend Adobe when the model change was a purely monetary move (one that worked too!). Anyone who's not a professional gets destroyed with their subscription pricing models. Adobe sadly doesn't need casual users... so in essence we have to resort to alternative options (virtualization of old perpetual licenses, 3rd party options, etc). It is a bummer since LR is very well done.
 
LMAO iWork is a joke for anything more than writing a middle school essay.
Such a middle school statement. I'm a professional writer. Been one for nearly 20 years. I use Apple Pages (iWork) for everything I write for my clients and it's never failed me. Just as good as Word, IMO, and it's never costed me a dime.
 
Such a middle school statement. I'm a professional writer. Been one for nearly 20 years. I use Apple Pages (iWork) for everything I write for my clients and it's never failed me. Just as good as Word, IMO, and it's never costed me a dime.
I think both statements miss the point.

Saying it's a "middle school" application suite is silly. It's accurate to state iWork is a small suite of well polished, but basic productivity applications used by a small number of people.

I'm also not sure what a "professional writer" is, other than you get paid to write. If you are a solo author, work in a smaller shop or have word processing needs that are relatively basic, I am sure iWork is a nice suite of apps for you/your team.

I'm an attorney in a small to medium size firm---I can probably list 100 reasons why our business could never use iWork because it doesn't have what we need.

I can imagine larger law firms and most corporations have the same issue, plus they don't run on Macs.

Bottom line: iWork is a nice, basic package of applications, but probably a poor fit for most medium to large businesses.

I will say Pages is a beautiful application. If I could write in Pages all day I would.
 
Will Office 2022 be released soon? I understand it will be released sometime in September 2021. Patiently waiting...
 
I use iWork since it comes with the products and actually find it more than adequate. Not sure why some give it such a hard time.
 
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