Again? I can name a number of products which they have kick butt on in the past 10 years. .NET and ASP.NET, SQL Server, Xbox, Windows Server, Visual Studio, Windows Azure, SharePoint, Office. Many people just don't have much insight of the business Microsoft is and what their products are. I don't know, maybe it is because many people don't work in a corporate computing environment. Come on now, Windows client OS isn't their only product. It's time to let go of the Mac vs Windows non-war. Steve Jobs himself let go of "Mac vs Windows", to some degree, when he was hired back with Apple so many years ago. He said something in regards of, if we make it all about us versus them, we will lose. If someone has the exact quote, feel free to post.