I love living in Germany, because here courts ruled that it is legal to purchase software licenses that are taken from bulk sales. The result is that I can buy Office Professional for $20 or less here. The same is true for Windows. I have chosen to buy Office Professional 2016, because that was the last version that still works without a Microsoft account.
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Microsoft Office to Become 'Microsoft 365' in Biggest Brand Overhaul in More Than 30 Years
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I'm enjoying all these comments about people who say they enjoy their iPhone and don't need subscription services and can use their SE or 8+. iCloud anyone... You are getting FREE cloud and backups and syncing. You can subscribe for additional services, but the reality is that Apple is large enough to provide you with access to their cloud and activation services and backup services and syncing services for FREE.
Most companies that do subscription services offer these types of services and have to charge for it. If notepad offered a subscription service, okay that's stupid. But paying a few dollars for backups and syncing that we all take for granted is nothing and if people use it, should pay for it.
Most companies that do subscription services offer these types of services and have to charge for it. If notepad offered a subscription service, okay that's stupid. But paying a few dollars for backups and syncing that we all take for granted is nothing and if people use it, should pay for it.
But that was a relatively new release. There were a few years there where MS didn’t offer the stand-alone at all (to consumers, there was still the ability for businesses to buy the one time license).
Given the way winds are blowing, I wouldn’t be surprised if Office 2021 is the end of the line for individual licenses.
Did you originally have the €500+ for Office Pro edition. Or the €1500 for PS?
If you manage your finances well, this is actually much easier to manage.
As an example, I’ve been paying for LR Photographer subscription with 1TB storage and that includes PS.
I’ve had it for six years now and I’ve still spend less than the one time cost of PS and I always have the latest version.
I get that they're trying to unify their services, but there's a lot of brand equity in "Microsoft Office". Maybe they're alluding to the fact that so many people are work from home nowadays, so they're trying to overcome the stogy stigma of the office with younger customers?
All these subscriptions and cloud based services that require constant verification online makes me glad I’m not a Submariner anymore.
I can imagine the scene:
“Sorry captain, we need to surface the boat”
“what for?”
“To connect to the internet to authenticate and keep our PC’s running”
“God damnit!”
God I miss the old days, back in the day I had 30 odd days of music I had ripped from CD’s or gotten by other means with no fear of not being able to play them when offline. I had a full copy of Office, iWork, & iLife and various other software that just worked all the time.
Nowadays I’m a sucker for Apple Music and integrated all my old offline stuff with Apple Music, I also pay for office 365 family, and a whole host of video subscription services, plus PS+ and GamePass. I would be screwed if I was still a submariner now going months without the internet.
The scary thing is all these expensive computers and phones are pretty much useless the minute you drop offline for any significant period of time as everything needs to be constantly authorised to simply function.
In my opinion the subscription model works for some stuff but other stuff is just a blatant cash grab. If the service requires the internet to function or is constantly updated with new content such as media streaming and game subscriptions then fair play, but for everything else that gets an update once in a blue moon and doesn’t need a back end server its just a rip off and unfortunately like the “freemium” model of gaming its spreading like a nasty disease with even small developers getting in on the action. Oh it may only be a couple of pounds a month for a subscription, but when every app you use wants a couple of pounds a month it becomes too much.
I can imagine the scene:
“Sorry captain, we need to surface the boat”
“what for?”
“To connect to the internet to authenticate and keep our PC’s running”
“God damnit!”
God I miss the old days, back in the day I had 30 odd days of music I had ripped from CD’s or gotten by other means with no fear of not being able to play them when offline. I had a full copy of Office, iWork, & iLife and various other software that just worked all the time.
Nowadays I’m a sucker for Apple Music and integrated all my old offline stuff with Apple Music, I also pay for office 365 family, and a whole host of video subscription services, plus PS+ and GamePass. I would be screwed if I was still a submariner now going months without the internet.
The scary thing is all these expensive computers and phones are pretty much useless the minute you drop offline for any significant period of time as everything needs to be constantly authorised to simply function.
In my opinion the subscription model works for some stuff but other stuff is just a blatant cash grab. If the service requires the internet to function or is constantly updated with new content such as media streaming and game subscriptions then fair play, but for everything else that gets an update once in a blue moon and doesn’t need a back end server its just a rip off and unfortunately like the “freemium” model of gaming its spreading like a nasty disease with even small developers getting in on the action. Oh it may only be a couple of pounds a month for a subscription, but when every app you use wants a couple of pounds a month it becomes too much.
No it was Office 2004 for Mac. It has the XML translator. It still has the Formatting Palette, which I use religiously (it's just that simple to one-stop-shop there). It ran wonderfully even on a PowerPC G3.
I wish that dang palette was kept instead of that idiotic "ribbon."
And open a new tab does not mean turn off the computer.JUST as I get the old folks to understand that "Word" is not "Windows" when I try to remotely trouble shoot
What was that? Did you say to turn off the computer? I pushed the tab on the computer just like you said!
I haven't used Office in ages unless at work. I switch to LibreOffice the FOSS project that was compatible with just about everything and never looked back. I use LibreOffice on my Mac too and recently installed the Apple Silicon version.
My thoughts as well. Individual users will just use google docs at that point. I guess old school corporate will still pay up for Microsoft branding.Probably means that they will no longer offer an option to buy MS Office outright but only offer a subscription option where your computer always has to be online.
You clearly never worked in a business on a document that has 20 collaborators at once.
You kinda need internet. Nobody uses offline documents anymore, it’s all online real-time collaboration.
I seriously doubt they would REDUCE their market by requiring you to be online while you use the product. Try working on an airplane or other location with erratic service. The first is possible, but I suspect one time purchases are really important for the education market.Probably means that they will no longer offer an option to buy MS Office outright but only offer a subscription option where your computer always has to be online.
Which iPad are you using? Only recent ones have enough RAM to really do multi-tasking. Instead they would suspend background apps and reinstate them when you come back. Usually the apps come back where you were though. It is supposed to be transparent to the user.
I know it was 2004 on Mac, but there was no 2004 on Windows. Office 2003 on Windows and Office 2004 on Mac were the same product generation, though I seem to recall the Mac version got some improvements since it was released a bit later.
As long as your work environment supports it, it is a great choice.
A prefer pages, numbers and keynote anyways! And they are free!
Microsoft Office will soon officially be renamed "Microsoft 365," in the biggest rebranding of the company's office productivity software in more than 30 years (via The Verge).
You may have heard of Microsoft 365 already – that's because Microsoft renamed Office 365 subscriptions to Microsoft 365 two years ago.
But in the coming months, Office.com, the Office mobile app, and the Office app for Windows will all share the name of a new Microsoft 365 app, "with a new icon, a new look, and even more features," according to a company FAQ.
As part of the rebrand, traditional Office apps like Excel, Outlook, Word, and Powerpoint will all come under the Microsoft 365 umbrella, rather than be referred to as part of Microsoft Office.
For Apple device owners, the name change will likely be seen first in the Office iOS app. The Microsoft 365 mobile app replacing it will include a new apps module for commonly used cloud-based 365 tools, a central content hub and workflow feed, and a new tagging system for organizing content.
Perhaps somewhat confusingly however, Office 2021 for Windows and Mac will continue to be offered as a one-time purchase under the same name for the foreseeable future, as will Office LTSC (Long-Term Servicing Channel), even though Microsoft Office is now essentially a legacy brand.
Microsoft says changes will begin rolling out for Office.com in November 2022, and then changes will begin rolling out for the Office app on Windows and the Office mobile app in January 2023.
Article Link: Microsoft Office to Become 'Microsoft 365' in Biggest Brand Overhaul in More Than 30 Years
I mean system updates needing to ask permission is one thing, meanwhile on Windows they're happy to just restart your PC without permission. Why do you feel the need to defend Microsoft software so much on here? It's usually bloated and buggy in my experience.
Cant be doing online collaboration 100 meters under the sea. That said I’m sure the navy would have a special version of office when the standalone version inevitably disappears.
I'm pretty sure stand-alone consumer versions have been contentiously available after 365 launched. What years don't you think it was available?
I had to look up what Whole Foods 365 is. Or was b/c apparently, it's no longer around. Methinks "365" is trying to convey services and lifestyle. It wouldn't be such a bad thing if Apple did some "365" equivalent since they most definitely do have that "lifestyle vibe" to them. They already adapted '+' for streaming via Apple TV+, and "One" for bundled services via Apple One.
Here, I would've just left it at "Office 365", but I guess the wanted to be more all encompassing. Like when Apple changed their name from "Apple Computers, Inc." to "Apple Inc." to reflect they're not just only computers anymore (electronics, and iPhone the biggie, even though smartphones will be considered computers later on).