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Given that Apple is still selling Intel Macs, hasn't completed their transition yet, and are rumored to have at least one intel refresh left, I'd like to imagine that Rosetta 2 still has a pretty long life ahead of it. I can't imagine it being EOLed until at least 1.5-2 years after Apple stops selling new Intel Macs. IMHO, it'd also be really nice if Apple actually just left Rosetta 2 around for as long as they can (kind of like how you could still run Aperture until very recently, and it still works now with some workarounds even on AS,) for compatibility purposes.
What does selling Intel Macs have to do with ending Rosetta? Intel binaries still run on Intel, heh. Rosetta is one way translation. Universal Binaries will likely be there for a while, given that Apple will still sell Intel Macs for a while refurbished.

As for one more Intel Mac, it's likely the Mac Pro, but we're not even sure about that. The current Mac Pro has enough horsepower for the pro's that use them to last for another year until Apple will introduce an AS version. I'm not up to snuff on the Intel workstation architecture to know if they could just "spec bump it" with newer processors and not need to redesign the whole boards, kind of like Mac Pro 4,1 went to 5,1.
 
Given that Apple is still selling Intel Macs, hasn't completed their transition yet, and are rumored to have at least one intel refresh left, I'd like to imagine that Rosetta 2 still has a pretty long life ahead of it. I can't imagine it being EOLed until at least 1.5-2 years after Apple stops selling new Intel Macs. IMHO, it'd also be really nice if Apple actually just left Rosetta 2 around for as long as they can (kind of like how you could still run Aperture until very recently, and it still works now with some workarounds even on AS,) for compatibility purposes.
I think they'll kill it pretty quickly. I suspect that it takes a lot of engineering work behind the scenes to keep it going and was really only meant to help with the transition and not as a legacy software compatibility layer.

Those who depend on Rosetta apps will have to just remain on an OS that supports it. Just like some were left on OS X 10.5 back in the day when Snow Leopard was released.
 
Oh so that's why my OneDrive permissions reset when I did a recent system restart. Something else seems different too, was OneDrive always a location in Finder? I can't quite remember what it is different now but something changed.
 
Wonder how long it will be until the Apple Silicon version hits the Mac App Store.

Im still showing 22.022.0130 last modified 2/28/22 Intel in System Report.
 
Good news! For an unknown reason, the only download link that I've find is the Intel version, but I'll wait a few days and try again.

Now, it's time for Microsoft to work on a native version of Teams!
 
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What does selling Intel Macs have to do with ending Rosetta? Intel binaries still run on Intel, heh. Rosetta is one way translation. Universal Binaries will likely be there for a while, given that Apple will still sell Intel Macs for a while refurbished.
Quite a lot actually, although perhaps I should've been a bit more clear. I don't think Apple will stop supporting Rosetta 2 until at least 1-2 years after the *transition* to Apple Silicon is complete (that is to say once Apple has released an Apple Silicon replacement for the entire Mac lineup and no longer offers any Intel options for "new" macs).
(Of course refurbished and unsold Macs will remain in the supply chain for 1-2 years after the transition is complete.)

Why does it matter? Simple, as long as Intel Macs are being actively produced and supported by Apple, developers will produce x86 versions of their apps. Apple may be moving away from x86, but the uArch itself isn't going anywhere anytime soon. Windows and Linux based PCs will continue to run primarily on x86, and even a few years from now there will still be an enormous number of perfectly good x86 Macs. Furthermore, as the primary home computing architecture there will always apps that don't get ported to AS/ARM. While Apple will likely eventually decide to cut their losses, removing Rosetta 2 too soon (especially before the transition is complete) would result in a situation where Intel Macs are actually much more compatible than AS Macs, something I'd imagine Apple would like to avoid.

As for one more Intel Mac, it's likely the Mac Pro....
Obviously this is all just speculation. There may not be any more Intel Macs on the docket but given the current trajectory of Apple Silicon, it's hard to imagine them being able to fully replace x86 on the Mac Pro this year. Either way, my main point still stands.

I think they'll kill it pretty quickly. I suspect that it takes a lot of engineering work behind the scenes to keep it going and was really only meant to help with the transition and not as a legacy software compatibility layer.

Those who depend on Rosetta apps will have to just remain on an OS that supports it. Just like some were left on OS X 10.5 back in the day when Snow Leopard was released.
I disagree.
If you look back at the transition from PPC - x86 it was actually MUCH faster than the current transition from X86 to Apple Silicon. Apple shipped the Intel Developer Transition Kits in the Summer of 2005, released the first x86 Macs (iMac/MBP) in January 2006, and completed the transition to Intel with the Mac Pro in August of 2006. That's less than 15 months from the announcement that they were moving to Intel to the completion of the transition.
(In June we'll be at 24 months since Apple announced the switch to AS and I don't think anyone expects the Apple Silicon Mac Pro to be ready by then.)
Despite the speed of the transition however, Apple didn't drop support for PowerPC Macs until Snow Leopard was released in 2009, and continued to support Rosetta until Lion's release in 2011. FYI that's roughly four years of OS support since the transition was announced and six years of support for Rosetta.
 
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Microsoft has been testing a pre-release Apple silicon version of OneDrive since last year, and now the native version of the app is available for all OneDrive users.

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"We're excited to announce that OneDrive sync for macOS will now run natively on Apple silicon. This means that OneDrive will take full advantage of the performance improvements of Apple silicon," Microsoft said in an announcement on the OneDrive blog that was first spotted by XDA Developers.

Microsoft said that the long-awaited feature is generally available starting with build 22.022.

With official support for the M1, M1 Pro, and M1 Max chips, the OneDrive app will run faster and more efficiently on the latest Macs as the Rosetta 2 translation software will no longer be required.

Article Link: Microsoft OneDrive Gains Native Support for Apple Silicon Macs
Seems I've got it here....

Activity Monitor shows a disappointing amount of Intel though - Microsoft Teams, DropBox, Garmin Express, GoProApp.DeviceDetection and something called Apple Camera Assistant?

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Hard pass. o_O
OK I'll bite.

So you're staying with the Intel version then? Why?

I understand that you probably don't like OneDrive - and that's ok. But why the negativity when Microsoft actually do something good? We are many who work in a Microsoft environment, but on Macs. Generally I find that the Mac version of O365 works way better than the PC one.

So why is it a bad thing that OneDrive is native AS now?

I'm happy, my entire workday is more or less spent with OneDrive - so now I need Teams too, then I'm pretty set!
 
I downloaded OneDrive version 22.022 (Standalone) from the Microsoft website and installed it... but it's still showing "Intel" under Kind in Activity Monitor.

Is there something special we need to do? Or should I get the Mac App Store version?

EDIT: I deleted OneDrive and downloaded the Mac App Store version. Same thing... still shows "Intel" even though I've got the most current version.

Maybe there should be a "How do we get it?" section in this article...

?
I have same version in my MPB M1 and still says it is Intel. Or they have mistaken the version numbers or they've lied. It is not the first time that MS lies in things like this.

BTW, yesterday I removed OneDrive from my Apple things. iOS version is crap, with automatically photo uploading deleting just done photo, showing deleted files... and now macOS version does not work well with thousands of files.
 
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Wonder how long Apple will keep Rosetta2 around. Back in the PPC->Intel transition it was only on 10.4 and 10.5, was removed from 10.6 Snow Leopard.

I bet a lot of companies are still slow with upgrading it cuz things work with Rosetta2.

One mistake: Rosetta was part of 10.4, 10.5 AND 10.6. It was only removed with the introduction of 10.7 Lion in 2011. So Intel Macs could run PPC apps for more than five years (with the newest MacOS installed).

However, 10.6 was the first version of Mac OS X which you could only install and run on an Intel Mac. This was no biggie though, because 10.5 and 10.6 were functionally identical.

Overall, transitioning is a way better experience this time 'round. I barely notice whether an app uses Rosetta or not.
 
Because they lied? If they've lied on that, you cannot know in what more they've lied.
OMG. Who lied? So since the version doesn't show "Apple Silicon" they lied? Like intentionally? Or perhaps something went wrong? I can't believe I'm defending Microsoft, but this is just silly. :) Mistakes happen. It's just a computer software.
 
OMG. Who lied? So since the version doesn't show "Apple Silicon" they lied? Like intentionally? Or perhaps something went wrong? I can't believe I'm defending Microsoft, but this is just silly. :) Mistakes happen. It's just a computer software.
Yo can't believe yourself defending Microsoft, I can't believe myself attacking them. ?

But yes, that is the reason. They simply lied, by mistake or because whatever, and if it was a real mistake, they haven't retracted.
 
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