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The company I work for will definitely be using this. Microsoft was smart to jump on this. Anyone who thinks this is a fad but mixed reality goggles are the future is just letting their Apple bias cloud their judgement.
Generative AI is not a fad. It’s the future of so many technologies.

Mixed reality googles are the future when they get to less obnoxious sizes.
 
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You really think heath care industry is going welcome AI that much when patient privacy is so paramount? IMHO the expectations from this topic are a bit too futurist when all this does is relate to a version of ChatGPT that will need years of perfecting by MS to make it Privacy focused. I guess I am trying to say there are a lot of bridges to cross to then. ;)
Good grief. The company I work for (very large health care firm) is using ChatGPT right now. We’re using AI/ML/NLP to auto generate appeals letters, for prior authorization, payment integrity, provider search amongst many other things. Our president and CTO just met with Satya Nadella at Microsoft headquarters. Insurance companies are sitting on TONS of data. It would be silly not to be all over these new technologies.
 
Somehow I trust Microsoft even less than Google with privacy. Google can at least provide a decent level of security while Microsoft is full of bugs and data leaks.

OpenAI already announced chatGPT for business. It's better to pay the guys who created the thing directly.
Except for all large corporations who are Windows/O365/Teams/Sharepoint/Azure clients. Of course they’re going to partner with Microsoft on this.
 
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The 20 siri writters must be very well solitary gamers, I cant see why Siri is unable to understand “remind me to take my medicine every 8 hours from 16:00 for 6 days”

But siri have some funny jokes ready to tell you when ask .. v

Well done siri, exactly the knowledge of a 11 years old kid
 
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Could people stop bad mouthing Microsoft regarding privacy? Remember, Apple makes Google search its default search engine in Safari. Also, which of the lesser evil would you rather choose? Also remember, 89% of computers run on Windows and the vast majority are in the Enterprise. If you go to a bank to do any transaction, you are least likely to find a Mac or Linux computer. Obviously businesses have a lot of confidence in Microsoft software and technologies to trust them with their data. If you work in a company and even use Apple devices, 9 times out of 10 it’s gonna be managed by Azure using MDM policies.

Let’s just stop trying to save face and admit Apple sucks at AI and services like Search.
There is a difference with Google being the default engine. Apple still limits what Google has access to. More so than when you search in the a browser, especially if it’s chrome.
 
That’s the way business works. Businesses innovate by investing in people, companies and intellectual property. Apple could also have invested in OpenAI. Instead, Apple chose to stick with Siri, which is based on technology Apple acquired from another company over a decade ago. I’m afraid Apple lost the AI race unless they radically change their strategy immediately.
I don’t think they trust that the AI race is a race worth racing. It is already proving to be a problem.
 
Good grief. The company I work for (very large health care firm) is using ChatGPT right now. We’re using AI/ML/NLP to auto generate appeals letters, for prior authorization, payment integrity, provider search amongst many other things. Our president and CTO just met with Satya Nadella at Microsoft headquarters. Insurance companies are sitting on TONS of data. It would be silly not to be all over these new technologies.
I can understand some of the automation of course for customer service related tasks that a client might utilize for his/her portal to your business. It's almost sounds like you are associated with this. Don't have to say but its a recent example:
 
There is a difference with Google being the default engine. Apple still limits what Google has access to. More so than when you search in the a browser, especially if it’s chrome.
Oh really, when you sign into Google Search in Safari, it does the same thing and last I checked, Chrome has like 66 percent marketshare. So, a lot of Mac users including myself use Chrome on our Macs.
 
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How is Microsoft anti-privacy in the enterprise?
They are anti-privacy in general. That doesn't mean they can't keep things secure, especially at the enterprise level, but don't kid yourself if you think Microsoft dabbles in even a modicum of privacy.
 
ChatGPT is bad enough in how liberal/woke it is but the Bing version is just comically horrifically woke and politically correct. It considers just about everything to be offensive and off limits. It’s absolutely unusable.

Who ever creates a non-woke AI (i.e., one that doesn’t lie) will dominate.
 
Apple really is falling behind. Voice recognition and AI really are the future. I’ve developed a macOS concept that relies heavily on voice recognition and AI and would be revolutionary. Unfortunately Apple has become so focused on making money that innovation has fallen behind other technology companies. Siri’s voice recognition accuracy is pitiful. I have to retype almost half the message a lot of times.
 
Apple is so behind, Siri is so bad. They should read MacRumors more — we have been telling them this for YEARS. But keep giving us emojis and Memojis, im sure that will please the masses.
Lol, agreed. Apple’s obsession with adding different shades of emojis, including one portraying a pregnant man was the beginning of Apple’s unraveling. What was the big hype with the iPhone 14 - dynamic island lol. What’s their rumored selling point with iphone 15 - a new type of button (no joke).

They could easily use both Siri and experimental AI in tandem until the AI becomes good enough to replace Siri. They’re making it more difficult than it needs to be.

They’d better deliver on AR/VR because they clearly ran out of iPhone ideas years ago.
 
Lol, agreed. Apple’s obsession with adding different shades of emojis, including one portraying a pregnant man was the beginning of Apple’s unraveling. What was the big hype with the iPhone 14 - dynamic island lol. What’s their rumored selling point with iphone 15 - a new type of button (no joke).

They could easily use both Siri and experimental AI in tandem until the AI becomes good enough to replace Siri. They’re making it more difficult than it needs to be.

They’d better deliver on AR/VR because they clearly ran out of iPhone ideas years ago.
The features you mentioned aren't major changes (like a new camera system). They're just features that a person who happened to be buying an iPhone 15 would get. I think we're plateauing with grand new features and just doing interesting tweaks on the old ones.
 
Thanks so much for responding, sifting through the noise in this thread is difficult but I really appreciate these concrete examples, this first one was actually pretty challenging. I eventually was able to get a correct list but it took probably 10 minutes or so, I'm going to see if I can work on a single prompt that gets it right in a first shot, it's a really good use case because it's verifiable, is information that it probably does know but isn't weighted very heavily given the training corpus.
Simple
"List 10 artists born in Africa but now working in Canada" - came back with 10 Canadian artists, none of whom were born in Africa, some of whom were born in Asia.
"What are some exhibitions June Clark has participated in?" - again, couldn't find information that 10 seconds on google scholar could pull
The second one I got in the first shot but I did continue the same conversation structure that I set up for the first one, so it already had some Canadian constraints in mind.
 

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I have no interest in the online AI’s as soon as we can local language models running on our own devices. And we’ll have that soon.
 
I have no interest in the online AI’s as soon as we can local language models running on our own devices. And we’ll have that soon.
We already have some, but they are much worse than the online models, even if they claim x% accuracy I've found them extremely lacking when given corner case questions but led in a similar way to what I do with GPT. I'm hopeful they'll get there within a year because I agree with you – I'd much rather have a local instance that I could have a very long-running relationship with as far as guiding / training the model for my particular usage.

Fingers crossed that happens before all of this magnificent technology gets locked behind insanely expensive paywalls. The value GPT provides right now is far greater than the paltry $20/mo they're asking, and once Microsoft gets involved and charges 10x the amount we're going to have stratification which I do not want – this technology should be democratized, ideally with functionality and privacy in mind which is why I'd like Apple to really be pushing behind the scenes hard on it. I just don't think they are because it doesn't line up with a specific product they have currently.

There's too much misunderstanding and the tech press has done a terrible job explaining to the layperson how to actually use this and instead sows FUD or hyperbole. There are limitations of course but if you're technically minded and understand the constraints I can literally save the $20/mo in my own labor by using it for 15-20 minutes depending on the task. It's such an amplification device if you use it correctly, but it's a total nonsense generator if you aren't technically minded and haven't read the documentation or understand the technology behind the scenes at all. I've never seen anything like it in 30+ years of being in this field, except for probably one thing: the internet. It's a total game changer, and the sky is the limit.

But much like NLPs, there is just an utter flood of nonsense research being funded and done on these now that it's very difficult to sift out the good / novel approaches form the "look what I made this LLM do". Real, hard science is happening, but it's being buried among the noise. I've been following this field closely for more than half a decade and over the last 6 months it's become very difficult to keep-up with the volume of research being done, and most of it frankly sucks. Exactly what happened when NLP was the hot thing. But it doesn't mean that this isn't a revolutionary technology, far from it. I'm pretty excited for the future and I hope Apple gets on board soon, but I doubt it.
 
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Let’s be clear - Microsoft bought themselves a seat at the table with their investment in OpenAI. They do not have any inside expertise in AI or speech assistants. Does anyone remember Cortana?

They are simply using OpenAI APIs to integrate that service across various customer touch-points (e.g. Bing). Everyone is acting like Microsoft themselves did something dramatically innovative
Who owns it matters, not who invented it.

It’s like the multitouch technology used in the original iPhone, you thought Apple invented it? No! Apple acquired it from another company.

Microsoft made the good bet on OpenAI, now they own it. Apple just missed it. Clearly the decision and vision of the leadership is far more important than anything else.
 
Apple has always been happy to wait for others to try new things, then come out with their own version of it later on.
That is just a cute thing people like to say when defending Apple. Apple's history is full of industry leading cutting edge innovation that didn't require waiting for anything. When it comes to AI Apple can't just "come out" with a competitive product if they aren't already heavily invested in the research. If you think Apple can just buy their way out of this mess then guess again. If there were a company that Apple HAD to buy to remain competitive then the value of that company would increase exponentially. Also, I doubt a company with that kind of edge would even sell to Apple because at that point investors would be pumping it so full of capital it wouldn't need Apple for anything.
Apple needs to get there stuff together because as it stands all of its business is tied to a single product (iPhone). Without iPhone revenue there is no service revenue. Even its Mac market share is tied to the fact that it works well with iPhone. Being 100% dependent on a single product that was released in 2007 is not a good long term strategy.
 
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Let’s be clear - Microsoft bought themselves a seat at the table with their investment in OpenAI. They do not have any inside expertise in AI or speech assistants. Does anyone remember Cortana?

They are simply using OpenAI APIs to integrate that service across various customer touch-points (e.g. Bing). Everyone is acting like Microsoft themselves did something dramatically innovative
You’re right. But it was a very wise investment. I wish that Apple had the foresight or the vision to do something in the AI space that would be beneficial to Apple customers.
 
That is just a cute thing people like to say when defending Apple. Apple's history is full of industry leading cutting edge innovation that didn't require waiting for anything. When it comes to AI Apple can't just "come out" with a competitive product if they aren't already heavily invested in the research. If you think Apple can just buy their way out of this mess then guess again. If there were a company that Apple HAD to buy to remain competitive then the value of that company would increase exponentially. Also, I doubt a company with that kind of edge would even sell to Apple because at that point investors would be pumping it so full of capital it wouldn't need Apple for anything.
Apple needs to get there stuff together because as it stands all of its business is tied to a single product (iPhone). Without iPhone revenue there is no service revenue. Even its Mac market share is tied to the fact that it works well with iPhone. Being 100% dependent on a single product that was released in 2007 is not a good long term strategy.
Funny how we keep suggesting Apple should do what other companies consider competitive innovation without any regard to risk?


AI has hardly been free of scandals in recent months, and it’s those worries that fuelled the backlash against Microsoft’s disbanding of its AI ethics team. If Microsoft lacked a dedicated team to help guide its AI products in responsible directions, the thinking went, it would struggle to curtail the kinds of abuses and questionable behavior its Bing chatbot has become notorious for.

The company’s latest blog post is surely aiming to alleviate those concerns among the public. Rather than abandoning its AI efforts entirely, it seems Microsoft is seeking to ensure teams across the company have regular contact with experts in responsible AI.

Still, there’s no doubt that shutting down its AI Ethics & Society team didn’t go over well, and chances are Microsoft still has some way to go to ease the public’s collective mind on this topic. Indeed, even Microsoft itself thinks ChatGPT — whose developer, OpenAI, is owned by Microsoft — should be regulated.


#1: The Information Isn’t Always Accurate

ChatGPT answers questions with authority, but that doesn’t mean the information is always correct. ChatGPT will sound confident in its responses, but that doesn’t mean they are always correct, which can lead to confusion for customers. Even its makers openly acknowledge the bot’s shortcomings, stating: “ChatGPT sometimes writes plausible-sounding but incorrect or nonsensical answers.”

#2: It Doesn’t Have Any Special Training

ChatGPT can comb the internet for information, but it doesn’t have special training or access to internal resources to provide personalized responses. If answers to customers’ questions aren’t available online but require industry or company knowledge, ChatGPT won’t be able to answer correctly—but that won’t stop it from responding.

#3: It Provides Different Answers Every Time

One of the lauded benefits of ChatGPT is that it offers a new response every time. But that creates an inconsistent customer service experience. Companies can never count on the bot to provide a specific answer, making monitoring customer needs and requests challenging. One of chatbots’ most common use cases is repetitive questions, such as order status or account information. These questions require a set answer, which ChatGPT can’t provide consistently.
 
I am starting to worry that I am getting old and follow into the steps of my parents. Loosing the plot without realising it ... 😅

First there was crypto currency - never understood it
Then there was NFT - never understood it
Now there is ChatGPT - hardly understand it, but mostly since I do not feel like I want to get involved either. Seems like one of those things that the media tries really hard to make you believe that you NEED it

You will find me on Instagram - remembering RealPlayer and AIM, wondering if things like Limewire or Kazaa still exist today

As you get older your brain changes, which lowers one’s fluid intelligence over time. This is why it feels harder to grasp entirely new and novel concepts as you get older. You will also become less open minded because the psychological trait Openness is directly correlated with fluid intelligence.
 
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