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Could people stop bad mouthing Microsoft regarding privacy? Remember, Apple makes Google search its default search engine in Safari. Also, which of the lesser evil would you rather choose? Also remember, 89% of computers run on Windows and the vast majority are in the Enterprise. If you go to a bank to do any transaction, you are least likely to find a Mac or Linux computer. Obviously businesses have a lot of confidence in Microsoft software and technologies to trust them with their data. If you work in a company and even use Apple devices, 9 times out of 10 it’s gonna be managed by Azure using MDM policies.

Let’s just stop trying to save face and admit Apple sucks at AI and services like Search.
Yes off course, Banks/Financial institutions & Corporations are a great example of trust worthiness 😏 Kind of goes hand in hand with Microsoft !
 
AI is not just ChatGPT or Siri, it's all the machine learning stuff Apple does on device as well. Apple has not failed any more at AI than it had failed at the introduction of a smart watch when people were claiming in 2014 the company would cease to exist if it did not immediately introduce a smart watch (I know this is a Macalope trope so here is a link).

Just the same for VR/AR, they have not failed. They may yet fail, but that is TBD. It is noteworthy that none of the current VR/AR entrants have succeeded. No one has succeeded at AI yet either, again, that's TBD.

It would be my bet that Apple winds up monetizing AI better than any of its competitors.
 
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Wonder if it'll also be intellectual property rights focused, and only incorporate content that creators have given consent to use.
 
Every company in history will be disrupted by something.

Time will tell how big of an inflection point the AI disruption will be in Apple's history.
 
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Seems like one of those things that the media tries really hard to make you believe that you NEED it
It’s definitely not hype. The revolution is not chatgpt per se, but AI in general. Chatgpt is just an implementation (and it’s impressive albeit not perfect). Have you used midjourney? It can create impressive images and extremely high quality graphics in no time, all from scratch using AI. Midjourney basically replaces graphic designers. There are companies working on AI video. Soon you’ll be able to create high quality movies just from text.

Every industry will benefit from AI. This is literally the future.
 
Not surprising. AI is definitely not Apple's forte if you consider Siri's horribly slow advancement since its inception. Considering Siri has been around since 2011, it doesn't show much advancement given its 12 year tenure.
Apple is using machine learning to do things like recognize handwriting, pulling text from images, and pulling objects out of images. Apple’s ML/AI efforts seem to have been focused on making their OS’ more intuitive and add new features. It’s obviously important to Apple since they’ve been adding ML units to their CPUs for years now.
 
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People forget that Apple is a hardware company not a software company. I presume they make their money on the selling laptops and devices.
 
AI is not just ChatGPT or Siri, it's all the machine learning stuff Apple does on device as well. Apple has not failed any more at AI than it had failed at the introduction of a smart watch when people were claiming in 2014 the company would cease to exist if it did not immediately introduce a smart watch (I know this is a Macalope trope so here is a link).

Just the same for VR/AR, they have not failed. They may yet fail, but that is TBD. It is noteworthy that none of the current VR/AR entrants have succeeded. No one has succeeded at AI yet either, again, that's TBD.

It would be my bet that Apple winds up monetizing AI better than any of its competitors.

Yep, those are absolutely valid points and Apple has been remarkably successful over the last 20 years. I do think though that we need to caution as much against 'Apple is too successful to fail' as we do against the constant doomsters. That being said, Apple failing wouldn't ever be a big bang, it would be a slow decline and frizzling out.

Lately Apple has been a fantastic hardware company, particularly the silicon that powers their Macs, phones and tablets. On the software front it's a bit meh and I couldn't really point to a big cool thing that definitely changed my life a bit and I could no longer live without, but to be fair neither has anyone else. What that thing will be I have no idea, if I did I would change my retirement plans, but there's absolutely no guarantee that it'll come from Apple.
 
People forget that Apple is a hardware company not a software company. I presume they make their money on the selling laptops and devices.
Apple is both a hardware and software company. What other companies have their own OS's and applications for their hardware in the same comparison. MS is another example, not so much hardware but ample software/OS's.
 
People forget that Apple is a hardware company not a software company. I presume they make their money on the selling laptops and devices.

True, but Apple's success as a hardware company depends quite significantly on its success as a software company. People didn't buy the iPhone because it was a marvel of engineering, but because the user interface was just so much better at the things people wanted to do with that thing that the frankly mediocre hardware (in some respects) didn't matter anymore.

The current Macs are a different beast, of course, as are current iPhones, but I'd wager that fundamentally the above is still true for a lot of users.
 
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The Game industry destroys the minds of our children!

Indeed. Just look at the moments below. They'll destroy any child's mind just seeing them.

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And I’m talking about gaming gaming, as in gaming.
Who cares what it’s being done on, at the end of the day gaming is literally just an industry made for money. and it’s making Apple money.

Well the day a mobile game wins Game of the Year from The Game Awards is the day I'll consider mobile gaming as "real gaming."

Until that day I'll treat it as what it is: A cesspool full of scams, shovelware, and low quality minor distractions designed to suck as much money out of whales as possible.

 
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Yes off course, Banks/Financial institutions & Corporations are a great example of trust worthiness 😏 Kind of goes hand in hand with Microsoft !
I guess you keep your money under mattress and I guess you trust a corporation named Apple that is in service to its shareholders. Seriously, think a little bit. Apple is in the same business as Microsoft and Google. Look at the side deals they have with big companies not to charge them for in store app payments, but the little guy has to pay.
 
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Why do humans need AI power tools? Is the lack of intelligence so pronounced in this world that is needed badly?

If you fail to grasp the usefulness of AI tools I feel for you. I could spend a long time trying to summarize the advantages AI brings but I think it is better for you to explore some videos on YouTube.
 
Ha, the health care company I work for allows us to use Apple devices to access our 0365 products but the security is all through Microsoft Authenticator. I’m curious why people have this notion that Microsoft, at least in enterprise, isn’t secure or privacy focused.
The problem is a lot of the people who disagree here with my statement probably only know how to click something.

It just like at my work place. A password policy changed and the client complaining its all Windows fault and threatening if we replaced all the Windows boxes with Macs, you would be out of job. He pulled his 14 inch M1 MacBook Pro out of his bag to try to prove to me how its Windows fault. Guess what, same thing happened on the Mac too.

I said to myself, I guess I wouldn't be without a job huh, ID10.
 
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Can you provide an exact example of what you're trying to have it source, as well as the correct source, and what it gave you as an incorrect source?

I believe this is due to the way prompts are being written – in every single instance so far I've been able to get it to give me a valid answer when people have had your experience. I'd like to try your example to see if I can finally see the hallucinations other people report.

I get them if I give it a very simple prompt, but if I give it a thorough prompt and tell it how to approach answering without leading it to the answer I've had enormous success, to the point where I wonder if people are totally under-estimating the capabilities of this tool as it exists in its current state.

Would love to give yours a shot, you can PM me if you don't want to post it publicly (and no, I'm not affiliated with OpenAI or any other related company), I'm just doing some side-project research in this field for my own purposes.
Sure! I'm on a trip so I'm away from the workstation right now, but I'm happy to talk about the queries non-specifically. I research figures in West African history, with a focus on cultural production. Here are five I've struggled with just off the top of my head.

Simple
"List 10 artists born in Africa but now working in Canada" - came back with 10 Canadian artists, none of whom were born in Africa, some of whom were born in Asia.

"Prepare a short biography on Avrom Yanovsky" - returned a number of facts that I could tell were false straight away

"What are some exhibitions June Clark has participated in?" - again, couldn't find information that 10 seconds on google scholar could pull

More Complex
Summarizing text with a few bilingual phrases- I will have an extended interview transcription with a few words in isiXhosa or kiSwahili. When I ask Chatp GPT to prepare a summary of the transcription, it melts down over the foreign language words and provides bizarre and off topic summaries.

Creating an abstract from a longer form presentation - I gave it an old research paper I wrote about a photography biennial I attended and the abstract it generated was bizarre, even making up an acronym for the exhibition that it has never gone by. It also stated that certain celebrity artists who are not associated with the exhibition but were mentioned in other contexts exhibited at the show!

Needless to say, most of my colleagues have given up on it entirely, but I think it can still have some good uses. One thing that I have enjoyed is having it make a few boutique Swift apps I can use in my research and exhibition development process.
 
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If you fail to grasp the usefulness of AI tools I feel for you. I could spend a long time trying to summarize the advantages AI brings but I think it is better for you to explore some videos on YouTube.
Do you really think that was the purpose of the response? In this industry we have corporations that ultimately would like nothing better than an automated agent (AI) to address 95% of queries or actions. Then they can dump your basis for being there. :D

I am not talking about something that Adobe tries to market throwing out AI.
 
Microsoft made a really smart move when they invested in OpenAI. No denying that. I’m seeing it everywhere now, and the possibilities are growing daily. I look forward to never having to dig through garbage google q&a results or links which are not answering my question.

Apple just didn’t see it coming. Siri could have been a gateway to so much more but it stalled and others did much better. Now we have generative AI which is just getting better and better. Apple is nowhere in this space. Soon that might become an issue.
 
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Microsoft is planning to launch a privacy-focused version of ChatGPT amid Apple's apparent lack of grip on emerging AI technologies, The Information reports.

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Microsoft's Azure cloud server unit plans to offer a version of ChatGPT that runs on dedicated cloud servers where the data is kept separate from that of other customers later this quarter. Data on this isolated server will not communicate with the main ChatGPT system to preserve privacy. The service could cost as much as 10 times more than what customers currently pay to use ChatGPT.

The move seeks to appeal to businesses, such as banks, financial services, and healthcare institutions, who have avoided adopting ChatGPT out of fear that their employees could inadvertently give the chatbot sensitive proprietary information. Bloomberg's Mark Gurman today reported that Samsung has banned employee use of generative AI utilities like ChatGPT after the discovery that staff had uploaded sensitive source code to the platform. The company is said to be concerned that data transmitted to artificial intelligence platforms including Bing and Google Bard could end up being disclosed to other users.

OpenAI has already sold Morgan Stanley a private ChatGPT service that does not involve Microsoft. The bank's wealth management division is already using the service to allow employees to ask questions and analyze content in thousands of the bank's market research documents.

Microsoft salespeople are said to already be fielding inquiries from organizations about the forthcoming product. Many large customers, including banks, have existing contracts with Azure, which could prove advantageous in persuading them Microsoft will manage their data securely.

Last week, it emerged that Siri and Apple's AI efforts have been severely hamstrung by organizational dysfunction and a lack of ambition. Many Apple employees purportedly left the company because it was too slow to make decisions or too conservative in its approach to new AI technologies, including the large-language models that underpin chatbots like ChatGPT.

Microsoft's latest move seemingly leapfrogs Apple to offer a privacy-focused AI chatbot in a ringfenced environment. Apple's uncompromising stance on privacy and insistence on a high level of control over its products and services has reportedly created considerable challenges for enhancing ‌Siri and the company's investment in AI technologies‌.

Apple has pushed for an increasing number of Siri's functions to be performed on-device and the company apparently prefers ‌its responses to be pre-written by a team of around 20 writers, rather than AI-generated, to maximize privacy and control. This has seemingly left the company out of the AI chatbot race, allowing Microsoft to flaunt Apple's preferred privacy credentials in the AI arena.

Article Link: Microsoft Planning Privacy-Focused Version of ChatGPT as Apple AI Efforts Flounder
This maybe where Tim is asked to pass the baton…
 
The Microsoft proposal is an important one. If a company could have all or select material & data in a private large language model with an AI to generate smart answers and content from it , then the value is insane. (Subject to how good the AI actually is).

Imagine something like : Analyse department X and suggest ways to reduce costs 15% without impacting our customers. (And countless other simple examples).

I expect predicative AI will be the next thing - rather than generate content , it will predict outcomes in various fields given a set of data with far more accuracy than we have today. I’m thinking of medical and health here - an area we know Apple cares about. Others may be thinking and law and order. Minority report - but the AI version is coming.
 
Let’s be clear - Microsoft bought themselves a seat at the table with their investment in OpenAI. They do not have any inside expertise in AI or speech assistants. Does anyone remember Cortana?

They are simply using OpenAI APIs to integrate that service across various customer touch-points (e.g. Bing). Everyone is acting like Microsoft themselves did something dramatically innovative
Microsoft did get in early with a very smart investment in OpenAI - they should be credited for this great business decision. But you are very wrong on their expertise - MS also has some very well respected AI researchers - I have read many of their papers in the last 6 months. Much of this centres around GPT-4 - as it should. They have had open access to the GPT-4 model for quite sometime and their ability to leverage this work has been amazing.

I have been a Mac user since 1988 and a real fan boy ever since I could pull up a unix shell on my Mac. I have also been following OpenAI for quite a while and I am paid user of ChatGPT. It is by FAR the biggest bang I get for $20 a month. I am still shocked every day I use it and realize I have access to this amazing tool. Apple has taken the wrong path with Siri - dead wrong. Its like they are trying to sell music on reel-to-reel audio tapes in 2020.

Google Search - that has been my go to for decades - can't hold a candle with what I can do with ChatGPT - and this is WITHOUT web access. Things are moving incredibly fast in this space. MS has hitched its wagon to the right star. Google is trying to catch up - but feels like a real scramble. Apple isn't even in the game - and they need to be.
 
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Why couldn't Apple just buy a license to integrate this in iOS MacOS Siri etc? I bet it would cost billions but it would instantly up their AI/Voice assistant game.
 
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