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This definitely looks intriguing, and I'd love to give it a spin, but I think thisismynext.com sums it up pretty well- you're basically having to manage 2 OS versions on the same device. 2 control panels, 2 ie versions, etc. Oh, and you're running full desktop, unoptimized windows7 under everything- can't be good for efficiency or battery life.

it's just a preview.....

anyway, quote from ars

The core UI works, and it works well. It's fast and fluid, and it's very well thought-out. Multitasking, personalization, and interconnections between applications are all at your fingertips, and the Metro look-and-feel ties everything together.

The developer build being given out today is, however, very rough. Some demonstrated features, including speed bumps between groups and semantic zoom, aren't implemented in the build. In a few hours of usage, we've experienced regular application hangs and one total system hang. Microsoft isn't calling this a beta, and isn't claiming it to be anything other than a preview, and that's appropriate—this isn't ready to be used as a regular, day-to-day operating system yet.

But even in this early state, Windows 8 is unambiguously a first-class tablet operating system.
 
Are you old enough to remember the 1990's? Look it up all the answers are there. Here's a tidbit: Bill Gates + Savvy Business Bullying = Monopoly.

Umm Steve Jobs and limited expensive computers = no competition for them (MS). Gates took your boy behind the shed.
 
The amount of Windows bashers is unbelievable on this board. Seriously, grow up, take some distance of your Mac vs Windows world and appreciate technology. Shees.
 
I think it's funny that people here are so quick to review something they haven't used. I'm not talking about the linked articles. I'm talking about the posters here.

Of course - anything not coming out of Cuppertino clearly is junk. And no company could ever re-invent themselves. That was a one time trick only Apple is capable of.

I have no idea if Windows 8 is good or bad. But I'm definitely intrigued by what I saw. Not that I would switch (desktop) - but for a next tablet purchase - could be. Will all depend on the actual release and hardware available.
 
The thing with this is, and I pretty much had this argument the entire day with some dudes from IT is that there will be a lot of hating on this.

I remember the day when Windows 95 came out. Oh the drama!
Then XP came out. The drama again (remember everyone calling it Teletubby OS)
Then Vista came, which was admittedly a disaster.
Then W7 came and the interface changed again, and the people raged

Now W8 comes with Metro interface, people will rage again.

Every single time though, people adapted fast and learned to love the new interface. Heck, I still prefer the W7 interface over 10.7. I'm curious about W8 and am dying to try it.

about that ridiculous fan tablet. It's obviously a proof of concept device. I prefer this too Apple bombshells which come out of nothing.
 
how can I become a microsoft dev?

Anyone will be able to download the Windows 8 Developer Preview (With or without Dev tools from Microsoft Windows 8 Download when it goes live in your area.

When will you be able to download it?


This definitely looks intriguing, and I'd love to give it a spin, but I think thisismynext.com sums it up pretty well- you're basically having to manage 2 OS versions on the same device. 2 control panels, 2 ie versions, etc. Oh, and you're running full desktop, unoptimized windows7 under everything- can't be good for efficiency or battery life.

You really didnt watch the presentation did you? There is 1 Control Panel, 1 IE, and no, you're not running an "unoptimized Windows7" underneath, you're running a streamlined, optimized Windows 8, you're not running this new screen "on top" of the desktop, it's all built in and integrated.

Windows 8 actually uses less resources than Windows 7.
 
If I'd started a drinking game for every time they said 'bold', I'd have been ploughed a half hour in.
But in truth, I admire the move. It presents an alternative vision to Apple's, and I think it has its strengths. If nothing else, they're the first to not simply copy iOS.
I think the real loser here will be Android tablets.

But PLEASE! Can people stop railing about 'true multitasking' now?
By their own demo, when you go into task manager, non-forefront apps are in hibernation. Exactly iOS's approach.
I had to laugh when the woman presenting talked about how she could play a game and do other things at the same time. NO, she was playing a game, and then doing something else. Unless she had 2 heads, she was simply task switching.
 
Only Microsoft would deliver a tablet and OS that would require a fan and produces a lot of heat.

You know this has many of the same ugly internal specs to the 11.6in MBA and that as a fan too. So, its not MS really at fault but Samsung(case and airflow design) and Intel(for sub-par architecture).
 
I agree about Windows 8, but disagree about Lion. Lion has some bugs, but it is still a pretty advanced OS. We'll see further integration of iOS features in whatever comes after Lion. If Windows 8 hits a grand slam, then that just raises the bar for Apple.

Lion didn't really bring anything new to the table. Full screen apps? Launchpad? Useless, really.
 
Why is it that when Microsoft fully merges its mobile OS and desktop OS (in terms of UI elements, applications, architecture support etc.) people say it's brilliant, but when Apple decided to cherry pick a few features from its mobile OS, people said it was the end of the world?
 
I wonder if this is the home, professional, ultimate, media version or whatever version? And what license server will it need to call home too.
 
Tablet with a fan... LOL!

That's no fan, that's a built-in hair dryer!!!

And there will be a vacuum cleaner add-on, and you can use it as a blower, or to melt snow (extension cord required), and it can hover (just a bit), and ...



;)
 
What a horrible interface. It really makes me want to throw up....really....:eek:

Are you saying that the interface looks bad? Seriously?

To me, Metro looks just AWESOME!

I wish MS had the balls to say:

'Hey we need a tablet specific version which will not compromise itself for Windows 7/8 OR vice-versa. We need silverlight as the core development platform for the same.'

Oh boy! I would be the first person to go and buy that tablet as I freakin love metro UI and the overall system.
The sad thing is that Ballmer just doesn't have the vision it takes to create such a product. A different approach than Apple's is surely going to give them some credit which is well deserved but if its not going to get them money, then its a waste.
 
Virtually every laptop ever requires fans.. the same cannot be said for tablets.

Unless that tablet is using an x86 architecture. I have yet to see a fanless ulv c2d or i core tablet(or notebook as they both have similar specs). Care to show me a fanless tablet that is x86 based(maybe those Atom models, but those are miles slower than a G3 iBook)?
 
Windows 8 is far more radical a redesign than OS X Lion was.

While I agree with this, in that MS has taken Windows into a far more WP7 direction than Apple ever took OSX towards iOS, why do I get the feeling that the same people who were whining about the iOSification of OSX will be the ones applauding MS for the Metroization of Windows?
 
The amount of Windows bashers is unbelievable on this board. Seriously, grow up, take some distance of your Mac vs Windows world and appreciate technology. Shees.

If I use a Windows machine daily but still hate it, am I allowed to complain?
 
Another fail boat waiting to sink, be because its using Wind'ohs, or an architecture that has seen less updates than my first cellphone. Please lets get to talking about the real Apple news and rumors, like when the glorious ARM based OSX laptops come out and gain 100% market shares!

... are you serious about ARM being Mac laptops? Those processors are ridiculously slow compared to a Intel Core i7. Why would you even want that in a laptop?
 
Are you saying that the interface looks bad? Seriously?

To me, Metro looks just AWESOME!

I wish MS had the balls to say:

'Hey we need a tablet specific version which will not compromise itself for Windows 7/8 OR vice-versa. We need silverlight as the core development platform for the same.'

Oh boy! I would be the first person to go and buy that tablet as I freakin love metro UI and the overall system.
The sad thing is that Ballmer just doesn't have the vision it takes to create such a product. A different approach than Apple's is surely going to give them some credit which is well deserved but if its not going to get them money, then its a waste.

Tried a Windows Phone for a few weeks and absolutely hated the UI. Judging by sales, I don't think I am in the minority.
 
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More Metro… ughh

Apple makes simple looking UIs but this is horrible… even windows 7 looks better…
 
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