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I am pretty sure Bing is like tops in a few Asian countries, and is ahead of Yahoo and behind only Google. I would never ever use it, but sadly that is the truth.

How is that sad? You want Google to have a search monopoly?
 
How is that sad? You want Google to have a search monopoly?

Does it matter? Google does the job just fine. We're not really looking for amazing User Experiences in search. Like anyone cares about a "Google search monopoly." They've had one for a while now and no one really gives a damn.

Bing is essentially an answer to a question no one asked. Or searched. And is currently a hole that you throw money into when you're too too tired to set it on fire.
 
There appears to be no rhyme or reason to this UI.

But all is not lost. This time around they're hoping they can just force it on users via universal-licensing lock-in.

Hey, whatever it takes. Forcing things on people can be good sometimes. And there most definitely is a reason behind Metro. Microsoft said it themselves. iOS is focused on pictographic designs: icons, graphical metaphors to give users an impression of the look and feel of an app, which is why Contacts for example looks the way it does.

Metro is focused less on graphical metaphors and more on clean, beautiful typography. There is a reason why tiles look and act just like banner ads. And Metro's UI elements in contrast to iOS are flat and are distinguished by simple frames and shapes and outlines of buttons. It's textureless therefore easier to use.

Microsoft's first UI revolution was the Ribbon. Now it's Metro.
 
How is that sad? You want Google to have a search monopoly?
Not at all. There is still Yahoo, that company they call the Chinese Google(I think it starts with a B), AltaVista, and few other I am sure. But, I have no real beef with Google.


Actually Yahoo is powered by the Bing search engine.
That is most of the reason why I stopped using that sinking fail boat.
 
You would be wise to care - unless you want Google to know everything about you.

For me, it's Yahoo! all the way. Obfuscation top to bottom.

I find yahoo to be a bit cluttered, and slow when searching. I use to be a hardcore Yahoo person, but it just started to lag for my taste. Thank goodness for the ability to blocks site though. But to each their own search I guess. Plus, that whole knowing your info stuff, isn't that the same thing Apple, BlackBerry, and Microsoft have also been accused of and stuff? All the same in the end on that regard, I think.
 
There is a reason why tiles look and act just like banner ads.

But don't you think replacing a unique and familiar icon with a generic 'tile' of constantly changing, animated content is going to be disorientating for the poor user?

Even worse, put a dozen of these animated tiles together on a screen, all doing their own unpredictable 'thing' and it becomes a big mess of visual noise. Won't it make it harder to quickly recognize and select the app you actually want, when they're all screaming, "look at me, LOOK AT ME!"?

Imagine a page comprised of nothing but banner ads.
 
CEO Steve Ballmer said Microsoft had 500,000 downloads of Windows 8 Developer Preview from the time Microsoft released a new version of OS at the conference BUILD.

If Apple did this and it was for PPC or ARM, they would do that in just 20 minutes time straight up.
 
But don't you think replacing a unique and familiar icon with a generic 'tile' of constantly changing, animated content is going to be disorientating for the poor user?

Even worse, put a dozen of these animated tiles together on a screen, all doing their own unpredictable 'thing' and it becomes a big mess of visual noise. Won't it make it harder to quickly recognize and select the app you actually want, when they're all screaming, "look at me, LOOK AT ME!"?

Imagine a page comprised of nothing but banner ads.

I don't know. As I wrote in a previous post I think the live tiles are better than icons because live tiles constantly update as well as compete for your attention.

iOS uses a lot of pictographic metaphors based on real-life textures: paper, leather, wood, metal, plastic, and so forth. Even though you're touching a glass screen the different graphic textures gives off a look and feel of the app.

Metro's UI paradigm is the complete opposite. It's based on clean, beautiful typography. Certain parts of the UI are strictly tied to typography. Search boxes and buttons are simple frames and outlines.

That's Metro's brilliance. When you're using iOS you're interacting with the content by seeing and touching. Metro has eliminated graphic metaphors and textures so you're mostly interacting by reading and touching. That's why it's better.
 
Only to be replaced by gaudy-coloured boxes that look like a bomb went off in a paint factory. There appears to be no rhyme or reason to this UI. Metro has been on the market since 2006 and it has so far created no appreciable return for MS.

MS is basing the Windows 8 UI on an interface that is a total market failure, and which currently is doing absolutely nothing to help pitifully low WP7 sales.

Smooth move.

But all is not lost. This time around they're hoping they can just force it on users via universal-licensing lock-in. The sensibility of this strategy remains to be seen. As always, consumers have a choice in the marketplace, and non-MS products in recent years have become an increasingly attractive choice.

I bet they sell 100 million copies the first year.
 
Bing is essentially an answer to a question no one asked.

Then you pay NO attention to tech.
Bing is not just a "search" engine in Microsoft's future. There's plenty of material from Microsoft out there to showcase just what Bing is and will be in future. Search is a huge part of it, but it's going to be a lot more than that. Check out the Bing for iPad app, or the additional Bing features on WP7; they'll give you clues.

But then, from reading your posts it's as obvious as the sky is high that you are anti-Microsoft, and not based on well thought out arguments against them, but some personal vendetta that has stretched back a few years. Microsoft could dump a ton of gold on your driveway, and you'd complain it wasn't a metric tonne.

Strange, very non-Windows Metro UI. And its a bit hard to use with a mouse and keyboard.

If you're still reading this thread, can you care to expand on why you find it hard to use with M+K?
Cheers
 
That's funny because I never found the word "innovation" synonymous with anything Microsoft. Unless the fact that Microsoft is rushing Windows 8 to market to compete with iPad 3 is what you mean by "innovation." :confused:

In what manner is MS "rushing" Windows 8 to market? Bacause someone told Mary-Jo Foley that? The same person that was wrong with the Beta Build release?
 
I installed Windows 8 dev preview on a Parallels VM and I have to say that the current version is inconsistent. The GUI doesn't make any sense for a desktop computer. It is totally optimized for the tablet, but then you can run normal Windows applications. It is like having two OSes in one. I cannot say I am impressed, but of course this is a work in progress and a lot of things can change till release.
When clicking on the Start button you get the Metro UI. There is no traditional way to access your programs, unless you disable the Metro UI. If you do that, then you get the good old Windows 7...The Metro UI is just a new GUI running on top, nothing else...
 
Why not tell us what you don't like about it? How long did it take you to download? Did you burn the iso? How did the install go?

i don't like the home screen. plus i forgot that windows doesn't have all the fancy trackpad features so i don't like that, i don't like the log in page, and it took about 4 hours to download ( http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/apps/br229516 ). yes you just burn the iso like you do with lion, and then you part the hard drive or use vmware and test it out. you might like it but i don't. yeah i know its a developer preview but just thought i'd say i don't like it
 
I installed Windows 8 dev preview on a Parallels VM and I have to say that the current version is inconsistent. The GUI doesn't make any sense for a desktop computer. It is totally optimized for the tablet, but then you can run normal Windows applications. It is like having two OSes in one. I cannot say I am impressed, but of course this is a work in progress and a lot of things can change till release.
When clicking on the Start button you get the Metro UI. There is no traditional way to access your programs, unless you disable the Metro UI. If you do that, then you get the good old Windows 7...The Metro UI is just a new GUI running on top, nothing else...

Metro UI is not running on top.
 
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