Then we're saying the same thing if you've bothered to read my post.
I was initially saying that. I understood the original comment to say that Metro was running on top of AERO.
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I was initially saying that. I understood the original comment to say that Metro was running on top of AERO.
So this is only my opinion based on my use, but I think this UI will remain a dog's dinner unless there is an extensive reworking - if that turns out to be the case, how are you meant to develop for it in confidence?
The UI of the OS and application launcher should not impact your own UI as a developer. They reworked the themes a couple of times during the Vista betas and previews and what shipped looked nothing like the initial showings they made.
I'm not sure what's you've done - just tried to load to do that, and I'm not getting 850M, at most 600M.
What's your highest memory eater in Task Manager?
At boot, it was using this much RAM:
That means that whatever you were running used about around 500M or slightly less RAM.
Hey thanks for posting the screen shot. Wow! Upon first glance I noticed right away how strikingly familiar the Windows 8 desktop resembled the KDE desktop. A quick Google revealed that I am not alone in my observation that Microsoft ripped off the KDE desktop (starting with Windows 7). I never took a close look at Windows 7 or 8 (for obvious reasons of course), until now. And someone suggested earlier that Apple "should photocopy Microsoft's QA innovations?"
WINDOWS 7, THE KDE 3.5 WANNABE?
http://www.internetling.com/2008/12/29/windows-7-the-kde-3-5-wannabe/
"it is difficult not to notice the resemblance between Microsofts much-touted revamped Aero and the excellent, now 3-years old, KDE 3.5.x."
"Windows 7 looks like a rip off of KDE 4.3"
http://reviews.cnet.com/windows/microsoft-windows-7-professional/4864-3672_7-33704140-313.html
Microsoft Ripping Off KDE 4.2 For Windows 7
http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-1103549.html
Hey thanks for posting the screen shot. Wow! Upon first glance I noticed right away how strikingly familiar the Windows 8 desktop resembled the KDE desktop. A quick Google revealed that I am not alone in my observation that Microsoft ripped off the KDE desktop (starting with Windows 7). I never took a close look at Windows 7 or 8 (for obvious reasons of course), until now. And someone suggested earlier that Apple "should photocopy Microsoft's QA innovations?"
WINDOWS 7, THE KDE 3.5 WANNABE?
http://www.internetling.com/2008/12/29/windows-7-the-kde-3-5-wannabe/
"it is difficult not to notice the resemblance between Microsoft’s much-touted revamped Aero and the excellent, now 3-years old, KDE 3.5.x."
"Windows 7 looks like a rip off of KDE 4.3"
http://reviews.cnet.com/windows/microsoft-windows-7-professional/4864-3672_7-33704140-313.html
Microsoft Ripping Off KDE 4.2 For Windows 7
http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-1103549.html
I honestly don't think they're that similar... But Apple did copy Ubuntu's App Store
We first saw Windows 7 theming in 2006, KDE4 Alpha in 2007
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"it is difficult not to notice the resemblance between Microsoft’s much-touted revamped Aero and the excellent, now 3-years old, KDE 3.5.x."
KDE3 Alpha - 2001
http://www.kde.org/announcements/announce-3.0alpha1.php
You won't win. Just let it go. And I'm not saying this because I don't agree with you, quite the contrary, I've been a KDE user since the 1.x days and would never say Windows stole their look.
The layout doesn't look too bad to me. It kind of reminds me of the Flipboard viewer for iPad. Not sure how it organizes stuff, but this is just some sample initial image. I would imagine the details aren't finalized.
I'm more curious with how Windows 8 will work in the all devices thing. To a degree, they may be following Apple on this, but this is understandable if you want to follow popular trends. The only roadblocks I see with them, is that they may only be controlling the hardware for the portable unit. With such diverse ranges of PC hardware, I'm curious if they can capture the same level of integration, or will they fall to fragmentation?
Time to take out the popcorn, because I think this will be fun to watch, regardless of their success. It'll be something to see, either way. And thus, the force of progress is behind everybody again.
I'm more curious with how Windows 8 will work in the all devices thing. To a degree, they may be following Apple on this, but this is understandable if you want to follow popular trends. The only roadblocks I see with them, is that they may only be controlling the hardware for the portable unit. With such diverse ranges of PC hardware, I'm curious if they can capture the same level of integration, or will they fall to fragmentation?
Time to take out the popcorn, because I think this will be fun to watch, regardless of their success. It'll be something to see, either way. And thus, the force of progress is behind everybody again.
Apparently the metro version of IE won't support plug-ins like Flash. And also ARM-based W8 tablets will only run Metro apps, which can only be installed from the Windows Store.
Between these two points it sounds like the consumer tablet experience will be more like a mix between iOS and WebOS/QNX. Not quite a full desktop OS.
Between these two points it sounds like the consumer tablet experience will be more like a mix between iOS and WebOS/QNX. Not quite a full desktop OS.
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If this is true, then it explains a lot.
Does that future include a mobile platform that doesn't suck? MS has bigger things to worry about than eliminating their self-created redundancy in search (or worse, promoting it.)
Clues to what? That it might be cool in an iPhone but it's doing nothing for WP7? What might make more sense for MS is to scrap WP7 entirely and just develop software for iOS. That way they can actually make money instead of losing it on dual black holes (WP7 and Bing), one of which *might* mean something in the future (Bing) at the expense of what they need to be a hit *now* (WP7.)
They make it real easy. Don't be surprised.
All of them are well thought out, because they're based on their performance in *this* reality, and measured *against* everyone else's. MS simply doesn't (or doesn't care to) deliver where others do, and when they finally do manage to get around to doing something in key markets, it's well after anyone might have cared.
MS performs not like a dynamic company with deep tech experience that is run with the hunger of a startup, but like a an old corporate bureaucracy fattened by a silver-spoon revenue stream that is too lazy to move past it. They are the GM of the consumer tech world.
But hey, $NEXT_VERSION is shaping up to be one heck of a product. For real this time. No, really. They promise.
Which is shared by far, far too many people to ignore. The more moves Apple makes, the more everyone looks at MS and wonders why theyaren't doing the same damn thing. Which is why they are continually embarrassed, humiliated, and otherwise spanked consistently in the market by faster, hungrier, more dynamic rivals that can think beyond an operating system universal-licensing racket.
I'm not sure, but that would be a much, much easier sell than Windows $NEXT_VERSION Milestone running on some Dell.
Hey its not like that at all. There should be no need to "argue" here if more people would just post some references instead of making absurd claims and expecting people to take their word for it.
I know what you mean about "impossible." Take my post yesterday for example. I posted a news article about how MS is rushing Windows 8 to market to compete with iPad3. I got dinged because it was from a Mac biased website. So then I post the same story from a different website and then I get dinged because its from a "Windows biased" web site.
https://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?p=13349932#post13349932
Oh well, I guess it comes with the territory here. I recall joining this forum as a new Mac convert to discuss all things Apple with other Mac users. Instead Mac users are continually insulted here with phrases like "followers of the dark turtle necked jedi knight Sith Lord" or something to that effect.
Anyway, I am glad Windows 8 is near. Its going to be fun watching Tim Cook take on this potential iPad3 threat.
Presumably someone told this reporter. Did you read the second article? (Fifth paragraph down)
It makes sense. Obviously it couldn't run traditional Windows apps natively. And they'd likely perform rather sluggishly in an x86 emulator.
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Yes. And i've read similar accounts elsewhere too. I have yet, however, to be able to track the source. I'm not saying its wrong, im just curious. :- )
Apple doesn't copy! They innovate after they take someone else's idea!! Stop saying bad things about Apple or nobody will like you.
Never implied compatibility. They could however provide a desktop experience...
No, you got dinged because the story was a rumor and the first thing they said, that because is rushing in Build there would be released the only beta for Windows 8 is false.
So yes, you're impossible because when you don't like fact you ignore them like this "Windows 8 is rushing" thing.
That can't be good for Adobe. First Apple slams the door in Adobe's face, now Microsoft follows suit.
Microsoft jettisons Flash with 'plug-in free' Windows 8 Metro IE10
http://www.appleinsider.com/article...in_free_browsing_in_windows_8_metro_ie10.html
