You seem not to be aware that one of the great additions in the upcoming iOS 5 is the Notification Center
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Microsoft Previews Windows 8 for Tablets and PCs
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That's a funny picture. But really, what does that even imply?
Obviously, iTunes runs on windows which now runs on tablets. Even the previous windows slates could do it? It simply does NOT mean anything.
The iPad now syncs everything wirelessly with iMacs/Laptops, etc. Why it does that is solely because the laptop and iMac have a very high storage capacity for storing music and movies. Otherwise, there is absolutely no reason to sync that stuff except for backups.
What I really wish to understand is: 'What's the big deal about this pic?'
I think this is a very good explanation of why I like the Window's 8 approach vs the current iOS5. iOS is too segregated, and meant for one at a time approach. If Apple could bundle that love into a similar fashion like tiles, that would be handy indeed.
That is a good start, however again- it is a one piece at a time approach. It just isn't all at your fingertips easily; especially after you complete one of those notification alerts.
I am not blaming Apple, hell they started this race, and obviously OWN it in the market. My hope is that they up the game with radically different schema to allow "pro users" (not basic users) to tweak it to their liking. ** not jailbreaking either**
Being an Apple fan, I am never so blindsided to understand that others can and will do things just a little bit better, smarter, cleaner, more intuitive. However, Apple can just as easy follow MS lead here just like everyone in the world did by copying iPad/iPhone, and change things up a bit like MS seems to be doing; nothing wrong with that.
Im going to try really hard not to insult you, as i've been punished for that before, but you seem not aware of the value of actually reading the things you comment on.
And yes, notification centers (or: aggregated notifications) is a great idea. Its not, however, a substitute for at-a-glance info a la live tiles.
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Something that shows even more promise is the "web of apps". Really looking forward to see how that one develops. Its a clear break from Apples silo approach.
I just wish MSFT realizes that the live tiles are not a substitute for aggregated notification content. Having everything in one place DO make sense - just not as a stand-alone solution.
Except that all those mobile devices, smartphones, media players, tablets (actually, not 'tablets', 'iPads') are consumer products, they are not there to satisfy a marginal portion of the market that gets off 'tweaking' their gadgets, they are there to let the user perform some functions in the easiest way possible.
I'm pretty sure that tiles on a home screen won't be part of what Apple takes inspiration from Microsoft.
Yes, but this doesn't change the fact that notifications and live tiles are completely different things.
How can a notification substitute a live Twitter stream tile?
How does accessing current live data become a Non Consumer thing? Grandma doesn't want her weather live when she sees her screen, she'd rather find the icon, and click it? Cmon- really?
Exactly. Once Apple has "live updating tiles", it will "change everything all over again" and all the fanboy cultists will silently nod their heads.
All this arguing about Tiles and Notification Systems is really missing the point.
Fact is, people (and by this I mean the sort of humans who don't spend their time trolling various Tech blogs and forums) really don't buy Operating Systems or Computers because of things like that. they buy computers (and the OS that comes with them) because they need, or want, to do something that their current computing setup doesn't let them. And I think, based on this, that Microsoft 8 doesn't pass the "dog food" test.
Look at the commercials that Microsoft has been playing recently: I think they reflect the reality that, for the past several years the PC market has become stagnant.
But does Microsoft really think that swapping the "Desktop" metaphor for a "Tiles" metaphor is going to persuade hundreds of millions of people to upgrade? I don't think so.
Granted, the worldwide PC business is so big that simple replacement cycles will mean that enough businesses and individuals will buy a new machine - loaded with Windows 8 - to make it a big seller. But its not going to do anything to change the momentum of the business, which has been towards smartphones and iPads (sorry) for their mobile and "lite" computing needs.
Microsoft held its "Build" conference to sell the idea of creating ARM-compatible versions of their Applications to Windows Developers. Which is fair enough. But the strategy of "Build It - and They Will Come" is far from a sure thing, especially in a world where consumers have lost interest in the PC, and a lean, whip-smart, and well financed Apple is setting the pace.
Fact is, people (and by this I mean the sort of humans who don't spend their time trolling various Tech blogs and forums) really don't buy Operating Systems or Computers because of things like that. they buy computers (and the OS that comes with them) because they need, or want, to do something that their current computing setup doesn't let them. And I think, based on this, that Microsoft 8 doesn't pass the "dog food" test.
Look at the commercials that Microsoft has been playing recently: I think they reflect the reality that, for the past several years the PC market has become stagnant.
But does Microsoft really think that swapping the "Desktop" metaphor for a "Tiles" metaphor is going to persuade hundreds of millions of people to upgrade? I don't think so.
Granted, the worldwide PC business is so big that simple replacement cycles will mean that enough businesses and individuals will buy a new machine - loaded with Windows 8 - to make it a big seller. But its not going to do anything to change the momentum of the business, which has been towards smartphones and iPads (sorry) for their mobile and "lite" computing needs.
Microsoft held its "Build" conference to sell the idea of creating ARM-compatible versions of their Applications to Windows Developers. Which is fair enough. But the strategy of "Build It - and They Will Come" is far from a sure thing, especially in a world where consumers have lost interest in the PC, and a lean, whip-smart, and well financed Apple is setting the pace.
This debate entered in a deadlock.
The thing is, if you want Windows-compability (at least partial), buy a Windows 8 tablet. If you like iPhone user experience in a bigger screen, buy an iPad. Easy.
The thing is, if you want Windows-compability (at least partial), buy a Windows 8 tablet. If you like iPhone user experience in a bigger screen, buy an iPad. Easy.
MS doesnt need people to upgrade they need people to keep using windows.
7 is at 500 million sales, you think those are upgrades?
I dont know anyone who dumped there PC and went all out tablet. If they do in the west doesnt really matter as there are enough markets opening to replace them.
Tablet isnt going to replace the PC any time soon.
Thats BS, apple might set part of the trend in tablet market but not in the PC market. Windows dominates that, and if they can make a unified OS that runs well on both tablet and PC they have a clear winner.
Its a lot better then what apple is trying to do .
So you think the old processors were better than the Intel ones that replaced them? Do you think they would be outgunning Intel today?
Apple was almost on it's own in terms of computer architecture in the PowerPC era. Now it depends on Intel interests. Apple's engineering hooks are restricted in the logic board an in the EFI but no more in the overall architecture.
I think Apple could provide beautiful computers on its own architecture today, however they would cost a premium price, which could be interesting in the current Apple business model: "if you have a lot of money buy our latest Power PC Mac octa-core for $2500 in the low end model. However, if you don't have too much to spend, try an iPad for $500".
Apple's movement to Intel was more of a convenience movement than a performance improvement concern.
Do you think they could have competed with Intel in processor design, innovation, manufacturing etc? Do you think they would have equaled or bettered Intel today? Don't forget that you were talking a very small number of computers sold annually in the pre-Intel days. Mac sales have only taken off the past few years. Would Apple have kept pace with Intel's Tick-Tock or would they have just done whatever they wanted?
It could be Intel, but maybe an Intel-manufactured PowerPC dialect. However this is not necessary as Apple's marketing department is very successful on selling Macs as niche devices even though we know they're not that so exclusive design anymore.
Ah yes, Apple uses "It's a Wonderful Life" song in the commercials. Thus, Apple is truly "in tune" with the needs of the average shmoe. MSFT is just too "Edgy".
I really am interested in your opinion in the questions I asked in my last post. I didn't post to be argumentative.
I think most Windows 7 users + millions of others are going to love the new "immersive UI". People were dissing the iPhone back in 2007 and look at where we are now. Windows 8 represents a revolution in OS user experience. 2012 will be remembered as when it call changed!
Is that actual copies sold or does that also include computers that came with Windows 7?