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Apple beats Microsoft in releasing Windows 8
http://www.roughlydrafted.com/2011/09/16/apple-beats-microsoft-in-releasing-windows-8/

Quotes from above article:

"Apple has already beaten the company in releasing a hardware accelerated, animated web browser. It’s called Safari 5."

"Just for the record, I don’t “hate” Windows 8, I’m just not impressed to see Microsoft being hailed as “futuristic” for demonstrating early betas still a year away from fruition of its copy of work Apple pioneered several years ago."

"Metro Tiles don’t represent new technology; they’re just an example of adding flash to something that doesn’t need it."

"That’s distraction. The real technology behind the scenes, which Apple uses to functionally animate transitions to guide navigation and make iOS (and Mac OS X) feel responsive and look cool, is that OpenGL foundation Apple began laying in 2001 with Mac OS X, where everything on the screen was mapped to a surface just like the background walls of a third person shooter. It was new then, not in 2007 when Microsoft brought the same concept to the PC with Windows Vista."

"Shame on the idiots who hate on Apple ideas until they’re copied by others 3-5 years later"

"Why are the people in awe of Microsoft and Google so profoundly unaware of all this?"

Ridiculously biased.
 
Apple beats Microsoft in releasing Windows 8
http://www.roughlydrafted.com/2011/09/16/apple-beats-microsoft-in-releasing-windows-8/

Quotes from above article:

"Apple has already beaten the company in releasing a hardware accelerated, animated web browser. It’s called Safari 5."

"Just for the record, I don’t “hate” Windows 8, I’m just not impressed to see Microsoft being hailed as “futuristic” for demonstrating early betas still a year away from fruition of its copy of work Apple pioneered several years ago."

"Metro Tiles don’t represent new technology; they’re just an example of adding flash to something that doesn’t need it."

"That’s distraction. The real technology behind the scenes, which Apple uses to functionally animate transitions to guide navigation and make iOS (and Mac OS X) feel responsive and look cool, is that OpenGL foundation Apple began laying in 2001 with Mac OS X, where everything on the screen was mapped to a surface just like the background walls of a third person shooter. It was new then, not in 2007 when Microsoft brought the same concept to the PC with Windows Vista."

"Shame on the idiots who hate on Apple ideas until they’re copied by others 3-5 years later"

"Why are the people in awe of Microsoft and Google so profoundly unaware of all this?"
Apple runs all of its JavaScript through the GPU?

Does Safari use CoreGraphics because it doesn't seem the trigger the GPU like Firefox does when hardware acceleration is enabled?
 
That whole metro interface is the same garbage they tried to shill with Windows 98(during its beta faze), except back then it wasn't tiles it was an older HTML based widget type crap that would tell you stuff like stock, weather and news report on your actual desktop. It failed back then, and this will fail in the near future, just like every single thing MS does.
 
That whole metro interface is the same garbage they tried to shill with Windows 98(during its beta faze), except back then it wasn't tiles it was an older HTML based widget type crap that would tell you stuff like stock, weather and news report on your actual desktop. It failed back then, and this will fail in the near future, just like every single thing MS does.

Wow - hate much? I was so informed by your rant just now. Much more informed then watching all those Windows 8 demos and stuff. :rolleyes:
 
Very interesting article. Interesting quote in the article:

“All of the apps for ARM are going to come through the store which means they’re all going to be metro style.”

Microsoft, meet walled garden. And online-only purchases. Sound familiar?

Yeah, i remember that from running Linux back in the days... that is what you were thinking about, right?

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Good choice Microsoft.

probably, yeah. still dont like it.. but i understand it at least..
 
Obviously a "walled garden" is great if the garden is beautiful which Apple's is. It's up to Amazon and Microsoft to provide their own "walled gardens" that draw people away from Apple's. One way to start is making the UI more beautiful, which Zune is IMHO.
 
The "Windows on the Go" feature is in itself enough to make me purchase the OS. Coupled with all the other new features; I think that this will be the best incarnation of Windows in years. Obviously the seamless use of desktop and tablets with this OS will be a boon to consumers. Sync between W8 tablets and W8 PC's should be a breeze.
 
That whole metro interface is the same garbage they tried to shill with Windows 98(during its beta faze), except back then it wasn't tiles it was an older HTML based widget type crap that would tell you stuff like stock, weather and news report on your actual desktop. It failed back then, and this will fail in the near future, just like every single thing MS does.

I take it you prefer the iOS garbage look? As long as the Apple glasses are used, it's great!
 
I can see WP7 phones being more relevant once Windows 8 comes out for tablets and such. Microsoft can still take a huge claim in the tablet market next year as #2 since not one Android tablet has any appeal or made much of a dent on iPad sales. And Windows still dominates the desktop space no matter how great Macs can be. Windows 8 is going to be huge by letting more people get more familiar with the Metro UI. Windows 7 became the fastest and best selling OS in history at 450 million sold. This is similar to how Apple created that halo effect with their iDevices toward their Mac line. From small to big. Except this is reverse for Microsoft. What you get used to with the desktop computer or what the next Xbox will be could affect how you buy your mobile devices since Microsoft can very well trap millions of people into their ecosystem.

If there is any other company that can make the best ecosystem out there other than Apple, it is Microsoft. I mean, 450M sold for a non-touchscreen OS and some are saying PC is dead? I recall iTunes only got 200M accounts just a few months ago. So there is more than double of Windows 7 users than iTunes users. Just wait when Windows 8 comes out. Almost everytime Microsoft releases a new version of Windows, that is bare minimum of 200M sold GUARANTEED for them. The much maligned Vista sold that many. They already have hardware inside people's homes called an Xbox 360 and dominate the online gaming market. But Google will always be relevant because they are the richest internet service company in the world and we probably "Google" more everyday than use iTunes or Xbox Live. Alot of people use an Apple product for their mp3 player, phone, or tablet. More people use Microsoft software on their desktop and have healthy market for gaming. And more people use Google services like their search engine, have the most popular cell phone OS as of today, and is in the hardware business thanks to their acquisition of Motorola Mobility.

I don't generally like Microsoft and don't think they are innovative. They copy others including Apple. But you can't underestimate their deep pockets and popularity with Windows. If Windows 8 outsells Windows 7, look out...

Halo effect.

Microsoft's Andy Lees on Windows' future: one ecosystem to rule them all
http://www.engadget.com/2011/07/13/microsofts-andy-lees-on-windows-future-one-ecosystem-to-rule/

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You said it, not me. Besides this quote sums up my thoughts on Windows 8.

"Just for the record, I don’t “hate” Windows 8, I’m just not impressed to see Microsoft being hailed as “futuristic” for demonstrating early betas still a year away from fruition of its copy of work Apple pioneered several years ago."

http://www.roughlydrafted.com/2011/0...ing-windows-8/

No, I didn't say it. You did. You know all about it, I don't. Obviously you know what the final version will be like.
 
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I know some folks might be laughing at the slow sales of WP7. But you can almost envision by 2012-2013 when Nokia is out in full force with Windows phones, Windows 8 gets released, and the Xbox successor arrives by 2013 that there is going to be a boon for Microsoft. Right now, they are carefully moving the chess pieces before an all-out assault within two years. Just in the dark and sharpening the knives. Personally, I don't care who wins since I will be using different things from them anyway. I get bored fast from any OS or ecosystem.

Windows 7 sold 450M which is more than double than iTunes accounts of 200M. Vista had just as many users as iTunes users. And iTunes has been around for a decade and FREE while Windows 7 has been around for like four years. I compare them because these are chains to their ecosystem. If Windows 8 is to be huge for them and Nokia makes a dramatic comeback which will likely happen since they are still the most popular cell phone brand in the world. then Apple and Google better watch their backs. Then expect the newer Xbox to be released no later than 2013 to fend off Wii U sales.

Apple's next frontier is getting more into the TV market. Google will likely get into the cable box business thanks to Moto and will always be the biggest internet company in the world. But Microsoft already has this box connected to your TV called an Xbox 360. They already have the jumpstart on Google and Apple in that area if they include Windows 8 on the Xbox 360's successor. Xbox sales > Apple TV & Google TV combined.

Microsoft can be first with OSes for computers and television sets. Google can be first with the cell phone OS and internet services. Apple can be first with multimedia entertainment like portable music, gaming, and be first at quality, customer services, mobile applications, and profits. It all works out for them. They will be always be #1 in certain areas.
 
I played with 8 today for a good bit of hours, and understanding that it's a dev build betas; I found it pretty great to use.

I still run XP on my VM on my MBA, but I was able to grasp the new Metro pretty swiftly. I love the live tiles, and really think that being able to arrange that info on the desktop is great. I could not get the weather to update live, but the deep ness of the settings and configurations allowed are deep.

I like tweaking the OS to my workload, and I will still skip windows 7, and go with 8 when it arrives. I said earlier that my love is OSX, but I see Microsoft defiantly getting my attention again.

Now hardware, that's another story, nobody builds a better ecosystem than apple still, so they will continue to earn my business. But honestly, I like windows 8, and I really dislike Lion.

Torn I am- but I must tip my hat to MS for a great build and turn around for the company. It really looks like a great package with enourmous potential.
 
I played with 8 today for a good bit of hours, and understanding that it's a dev build betas; I found it pretty great to use.

I still run XP on my VM on my MBA, but I was able to grasp the new Metro pretty swiftly. I love the live tiles, and really think that being able to arrange that info on the desktop is great. I could not get the weather to update live, but the deep ness of the settings and configurations allowed are deep.

I like tweaking the OS to my workload, and I will still skip windows 7, and go with 8 when it arrives. I said earlier that my love is OSX, but I see Microsoft defiantly getting my attention again.

Now hardware, that's another story, nobody builds a better ecosystem than apple still, so they will continue to earn my business. But honestly, I like windows 8, and I really dislike Lion.

Torn I am- but I must tip my hat to MS for a great build and turn around for the company. It really looks like a great package with enourmous potential.

psst.. you really dont build ecosystems, and given Apples historical failure, praising them to the skies is a bit out of line. Heck, the OS x ecosystem is quite crap even now (comparatively), isnt it?
 
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