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Microsoft Previews Windows 8 for Tablets and PCs

Hey ct2k7, I had a look at the pictures in the article in the link in your signature (whew!). On the "Start"screen, all those coloured rectangles and pictures: are they buttons, icons, or what? Can I click on them, or ... ?

While I personally don't mind the appearance of Windows 8 (from the little I've seen of it), some things are a step away from intuitive I think. Perhaps making buttons look like buttons is old-fashioned these days... Then again, I was also always bothered by a button that acted like a menu: the Windows "Start" buttonmenu.

I also loathe the elimination of menu bars. How the heck am I supposed to see what commands are available (i.e. how to do something) if I can't look through a menu of options? Hopefully Mac OS X still has a long and healthy life ahead of it!
 
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aggri1 said:
Hey ct2k7, I had a look at the pictures in the article in the link in your signature (whew!). On the "Start"screen, all those coloured rectangles and pictures: are they buttons, icons, or what?

While I personally don't mind the appearance of Windows 8 (from the little I've seen of it), some things are a step away from intuitive I think. Perhaps making buttons look like buttons is old-fashioned these days... Then again, I was also always bothered by a button that acted like a menu: the Windows "Start" buttonmenu.

I also loathe the elimination of menu bars. How the heck am I supposed to see what commands are available (i.e. how to do something) if I can't look through a menu of options? Hopefully Mac OS X still has a long and healthy life ahead of it!
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Why would you need menu bars on the desktop? Besides the Ribbon UI is becoming the defacto standard for Windows applications now.
 
aggri1 said:
Hey ct2k7, I had a look at the pictures in the article in the link in your signature (whew!). On the "Start"screen, all those coloured rectangles and pictures: are they buttons, icons, or what? Can I click on them, or ... ?

While I personally don't mind the appearance of Windows 8 (from the little I've seen of it), some things are a step away from intuitive I think. Perhaps making buttons look like buttons is old-fashioned these days... Then again, I was also always bothered by a button that acted like a menu: the Windows "Start" buttonmenu.

I also loathe the elimination of menu bars. How the heck am I supposed to see what commands are available (i.e. how to do something) if I can't look through a menu of options? Hopefully Mac OS X still has a long and healthy life ahead of it!
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Hi,

Many thanks :)

the start view is certainly challenging to use on a desktop PC with a mouse - especially on large monitors/screens - however, I don't think this'll be forced. There is going to be a way to disable it.

Mac OS X seems to be converging with iOS. Not sure I like that.
 
ct2k7 said:
Hi,

Many thanks :)

the start view is certainly challenging to use on a desktop PC with a mouse - especially on large monitors/screens - however, I don't think this'll be forced. There is going to be a way to disable it.

Mac OS X seems to be converging with iOS. Not sure I like that.
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I can imagine if OS X desktop just ends up looking like iOS. Everything is headed into the direction of less clutter.
 
Excellent.

Another....

vaporware07.jpg


..brought to you by Microsoft.
 
MacinDoc said:
Personally, I despise the ribbon. Worst thing about MS Office. I guess that makes me outdated.
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I feel the same way, I hate the ribbon (and it's not just Office that I've had to use it with!). Having to memorise all sorts of abstract little buttons for every command is annoying, and the buttons may or may not even be visible at any time (e.g. when you make the window smaller, some disappear).

Stupid, imo.
 
MacinDoc said:
Personally, I despise the ribbon. Worst thing about MS Office. I guess that makes me outdated.
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Not outdated, just special. you see, while the rare-breed of tech-savvy users have no issue exploring options, learning-in-use, the vast majority of users doesn't have a clue. For this set of users ribbon is, evidently, great. MSFT has nice empirical backing for their move onto ribbon. You and I may not like it (as we were familiar with the old), but its still a good choice.
 
Oletros said:
Vaporware? Why?
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Vaporware is a term in the computer industry that describes a product, typically computer hardware or software, that is announced to the general public but is never actually released nor officially canceled. Vaporware is also a term sometimes used to describe events that are announced or prophesied, never officially cancelled, but never intended to happen. The term also generally applies to a product that is announced months or years before its release, and for which public development details are lacking.
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It seems the last part applies well, at least for the ARM/tablet side of Windows 8.
I wonder if Windows 8 tablets will need antivirus...
 
Oletros said:
http://www.anandtech.com/show/4411/windows-8-running-on-arm-nvidia-kalel-notebook-demoed

http://www.anandtech.com/show/4811/windows-8-tablets-running-on-ti-qualcomm-nvidia-amd-intel-silicon


http://thisismynext.com/2011/09/14/nvidia-kal-el-windows-8-tablet-hands-on/



No, it doesn't apply because they have been demoed
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Here's what I read from the first link:

Well, talk about being in the right place at the right time: We just ran into VP of Windows Planning*Michael Angiulo at the Nvidia booth, who was kind enough to snatch that quad-core Kal-El tablet from its glass cage and let us play a bit with Windows 8 on ARM. We’ll admit, it wasn’t a very in-depth demo, but we were able to see snappy transitions between the Desktop and Metro interfaces. Even better, scrolling on the Start screen was nearly as smooth as that on the Samsung Core i5 developer tablet. You’ll see in the video below, he was able to swipe through open apps as well as open Windows Explorer. It’s really the first live demo we’ve seen of Windows on ARM as well as NVIDIA’s quad-core Kal-El, and while the tablet we saw certainly isn’t ready for primetime, the progress we’re seeing here suggests that Microsoft’s initial*reluctance*to show ARM running Windows 8 isn’t necessarily about performance.
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Yeah, right...
And I love how the video is all about showing that Metro UI is smoothly animated. Not the littlest clue what will email (outlook?) will look like on a Windows Tablet, for example.
Moving tiles are cute, but what's more important is to understand how the OS is structured.
My bet is it HAS a register and it WILL require an antivirus :D.
 
Bernard SG said:
Here's what I read from the first link:



Yeah, right...
And I love how the video is all about showing that Metro UI is smoothly animated. Not the littlest clue what will email (outlook?) will look like on a Windows Tablet, for example.
Moving tiles are cute, but what's more important is to understand how the OS is structured.
My bet is it HAS a register and it WILL require an antivirus :D.
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You don't get a virus by staying safe and using common sense. I haven't run any AV for the past two years. My computer's safe.
 
Bernard SG said:
It seems the last part applies well, at least for the ARM/tablet side of Windows 8.
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The definition is pretty unambiguous if you ask me. Not sure why the term "vaporware" is causing so much confusion when applied to Windows 8.

Bernard SG said:
I wonder if Windows 8 tablets will need antivirus...
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"Antivirus?" I am not familiar with that since I switched to Linux and OSX. ;)
 
Bernard SG said:
It seems the last part applies well, at least for the ARM/tablet side of Windows 8.
I wonder if Windows 8 tablets will need antivirus...
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Thank you for the assistance by providing the definition.

As for the Windows 8 tablets needing antivirus question.....

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linux2mac said:
"Antivirus?" I am not familiar with that since I switched to Linux and OSX. ;)
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As a former Windows user, you'll probably be able to enjoy the following.

Hitler tries out Windows 8
 
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I, for one, hope that Windows 8 crashes all the freaking time, simply because I find that frown emote so damn funny. The only thing that'd make it better is if it plays an "oh noooooooo" sound clip every time it pops up.

In fact, I'm gonna go ahead and coin the term "Sad Face of Severe Disappointment". You heard it here first, folks. The new BSOD is the SFSD.

Also, I just want to back up ct2k7 by saying that the only reasons why you should ever have to contend with viruses in Windows is either because A. You're someones grandma, and you just love those free coupon downloaders you got from those nice people at Bonzai Buddy, or B. you're an idiot. It takes only the barest amount of common sense to avoid getting viruses these days.
 
^^ I just realized what the new crash screen reminds me off:
sad-mac.jpg


Good ole "Sad Mac". Unfortunately I got one of these the last time I tried to turn on my ancient PowerMac 6500.
 
Renzatic said:
I, for one, hope that Windows 8 crashes all the freaking time, simply because I find that frown emote so damn funny. The only thing that'd make it better is if it plays an "oh noooooooo" sound clip every time it pops up.
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LOL!

Renzatic said:
Also, I just want to back up ct2k7 by saying that the only reasons why you should ever have to contend with viruses in Windows is either because A. You're someones grandma, and you just love those free coupon downloaders you got from those nice people at Bonzai Buddy, or B. you're an idiot. It takes only the barest amount of common sense to avoid getting viruses these days.
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You must not drive. Based on what I see when I do, common sense seems to be in short supply these days. :p
 
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