Isn't that outlining what your product has that the other product doesn't have? Weird outlook when to me that's a sound business decision.
Kinda funny how much illogical MS bashing there is.
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Microsoft Releases Fourth Anti-iPad Ad Highlighting Windows 8 Multitasking Capabilities
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Isn't that outlining what your product has that the other product doesn't have? Weird outlook when to me that's a sound business decision.
Kinda funny how much illogical MS bashing there is.
I guess Microsoft (and you) missed Steve Jobs' claim that the iPad is not a computer. Or, more likely, they are relying on consumers' inability to distinguish between apples and oranges. Which is to say, they are pitching the Surface at the market niche distinguished for its ignorance.
The Mac vs. PC adds were about more or less comparable products. The iPad is not a PC, whereas the Surface is - even the RT is a PC, though a somewhat diminished one. Microsoft is not displaying courage in airing these adds; they are showing a very real contempt for the intelligence of their audience. If you like being talked down to, you should love these adds.
The adds are a desperate effort to push a product line that was ill conceived from the outset and is selling badly as a result. There's an old computer programming saying, garbage in, garbage out. It fits the case nicely. You don't have to be angry at Microsoft to see that the Surface is a disaster in progress - helped along very ably by the kludge that is Windows 8.
This doesn't make sense, it's just nit picking. These are 2 tablets being compared, they are very much comparable products. Wait a minute, you are saying that because the windows tablet has so much more functionality than the ipad that they shouldn't be compared? That doesn't make sense. And why isn't the ipad a PC? You can run programs on it, you can do word processing, accounting, heck there are even programming apps out there.
I would think someone who didn't honestly look at this ad and consider the differences and if they suited their tablet use would be the unintelligent one. Or at least I think having a choice is better than not having one.
Now as for the Surface being a disaster, I don't disagree with you in terms of the Surface RT, although even though I think RT is complete garbage it's interesting to see how in this ad they actually do show it as being superior in terms of multitasking. But in most other categories Windows RT fails badly against iOS. Contrast that to the full Windows tablet which trounce all over iOS.
Reminds me of this classic SNL skit. Was told the following Monday, Apple corporate called up the SNL office at NBC, said the liked it, got a copy and used it for a few of their in-house corporate videos.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oJ0LHzFQ7Yw
Yes, but is it moist and chewy like cake? That's what I'm holding out for.
http://youtu.be/DzhXFo_LJJE
http://youtu.be/DzhXFo_LJJE
But you can't have multiple apps on screen at once.
I don't mind this, but honestly, this whole argument and ads after ad fighting between Microsoft and Apple, over 'muti-tasking'
They do their own version, which works for them .... What's the big deal here.
Microsoft has a piddling little side-bar that looks like you can't store any useful info in, where as the iPad actually does switch (which may be in-convenient), but as least its "full screen"
take that Microsoft
They do their own version, which works for them .... What's the big deal here.
Microsoft has a piddling little side-bar that looks like you can't store any useful info in, where as the iPad actually does switch (which may be in-convenient), but as least its "full screen"
take that Microsoft
"looks like". It can - after all, you can display any info, GUI components, video / camera layer in there. Basically, it's the WP8 layer built into WinRT / Win8Pro apps for easy portability to WP8.
if you feel the need to bash another product in your ads to promote your own, maybe your product isn't that good what's more, the surface is very expensive, especially considering that
what's more, the surface is very expensive, especially considering that
I am not saying MS shouldn't, just they are missing half the audience, and an audience who might be far more likely to switch.
Then again, MS has typically not been one for making smart ads.
The technological limits have indeed been broken, but two concerns remain: performance and battery life. Would iOS be as smooth as it is today with full multitasking? Would the iPad in particular have best-in-class battery life with full multitasking? The answer is most likely no to both of those questions. So yes, a Windows tablet can be just as simple as iOS but like you said, it's not necessarily about simplicity. Does any Windows tablet approach the iPad in battery life? Apple has expanded multitasking capabilities in iOS 7, and it wouldn't surprise me if they further expand it in future releases. Battery life and performance are two things that Apple simply won't compromise in iOS.
Some people want true multitasking at the expense or one or both of those things, and iOS devices are not for them. One day, maybe. But that day is not today.
if you feel the need to bash another product in your ads to promote your own, maybe your product isn't that good
Forgetting Mac vs PC ads are we?
I bet most of you fanbois bashing Win8 have never even used it, or if you have, have not used it for more than 30 seconds. Win8 is fantastic for mobile devices. Took them forever, but Microsoft has come to the field with their gameface on, it's going to make EVERYONE better - this is good for Apple fans, and it's good for Microsoft fans. As for me, I'm not "loyal" to any company at all, since they are not capable of returning the favor. I use what I like, and what meets my needs, and that's all.
Not when the ad is misleading at the very least. All of the Surface ads have been historically stupid. First it was, "hey, it makes a clicking noise when you buy a $130 keyboard!" No mention of the fact that it's a tablet and the main feature of a tablet is it isn't a laptop and doesn't have/need a keyboard. Then they ran ads saying their tablets had more hard drive space for the same price or less. Not mentioning that actual usable hard drive space was less. (making the ads an outright lie) Now they run ads saying iPad's can't multi-task, which is another outright lie. Not one single ad said anything about what the Surface CAN do. But hey, when you release two versions of an OS with the same name, and two versions of a product with almost the same name, and neither product/OS is compatible with the other, disaster is bound to happen.
I see Microsoft with another reactionary move today, reorganizing the entire company.
No I didn't, but I have a macbook air, iMac, iPad and iPhone, so I know enough to manage resources and not carry every damn file with me all the time on all my devices.
Another area of iOS shortcomings. It takes far too much prodding and poking at the screen to change basic system settings. Toggling on/off Wi-Fi and BT should be more easily accessable.
This is another area where OS X excels. Apple knows how to do this, they just don't seem to care. iOS feels like abandonware at times.
It's certainly true that not everyone is a power user, but again part of what makes OS X so awesome is that it's accessable to noobs while serving the needs of power users and hardcore developers. Unless Apple is going to have a "Pro iOS", then iOS needs to serve the needs of everyone, including "power users".
Or would Apple prefer that people graduate from iDevices to Android when they become "power users"?
I just feel there must be a way to retain the minimalist simplicity of iOS while enabling greater control of iDevices. Using an iPad feels very constrained to me. There is often ONE way to do something that may work for the majority of users but is clumsy or inefficient for the needs of a minority of users. That's is the very antithesis of OS X.
You do know that you will be able to toggle those settings from the control center in iOS 7?
The iPad already does multitask. It runs more than one app at once, but they don't appear next to each other on the screen. There's no hardware limitation preventing two apps appearing next to each other on the screen, just software.
Don't say that the iPad is too slow for running two apps with view side-by-side. It's more powerful than my old iMac G5.
Like I said, it STARTED with Flash. HTML5 is much better, however we still see a lot of flash based sites out there, or flash based programs out there. This includes walking tours of museums, restaurants, and other sites from people who are not as experienced with HTML5 programming.
Now, people develop apps because it creates an immersive environment with a captive audience. It showcase their product the way they want it and self prompts their other products the way they want it.
Does any windows tablet approach the iPad in battery life? YES YES YES, I'm assuming you are feigning innocence here? Not only that, they match it in size, weight, form factor, thinness as well as battery life. All of that AND it has TRUE multitasking and has a real OS.
I do agree wholeheartedly though with you when you say that people who want multitasking at the expense of battery and/or performance should not consider the ipad. But they should, and IMO will in the future consider a windows tablet, not only today where it is ALL that.
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Lol, so people are so stupid they only buy a tablet for a clicky noise? I don't get that, I'm certainly not that stupid. No one said it didn't need a keyboard, but having such a novel solution to the keyboard issue on a tablet was pretty nice and I don't blame MS for marketing the crap out of that. As for hard drive space that is a lie that is universal, and the particular "lie" that MS told about the surface pro was incredibly exaggerated, especially when review sites started posting how much free space was left on other OS' and why it was so exaggerated, no, that topic is dead before you even began to address it.
As for another lie, I still haven't seen an ipad that can multitask. I understand you are saying that task switching is multitasking, but it's not, it's task switching. Can you drag something from one app to another? Can you compare two things side by side?
The beauty of windows is it is so deeply entrenched that MS doesn't have to tell people what it does, everyone already knows what it does. They basically told the world hey we have an ipad, but it runs windows and multitasks and I don't see anything wrong with that.
It's just weird to see so many odd negative reactions to what basically every company does, if anything I see MS as being more honest than most.
Did not know that, thank you for explaining it (the original meaning) to me.
Its just that somehow the "cloud" has been hyperbole(d) into oblivion like its going to save mankind. You would probably not be amazed by this but im sure that 80% of people think its some metaphysical thing or data thats kept in flux!!!
Definitely, as with a lot of technical terms, it has been picked up by the media and now used by people who have no idea what they're talking about.
"Clouds" (e.g., the network diagram type) have been around for decades.
As a regular end user, your internet access itself is a "cloud" service. I.e., you don't necessarily know (or care - even if you're a networking guy, the specifics of your ISP are unknown unless you work for them) how any of it is implemented by your ISP beyond the wall socket at your house. It is enough for you to know that you connect your modem, configure with your customer details and from there onwards, "magic" happens and internet comes out. The details beyond that are irrelevant to you, so long as it works and performs as expected.
E.g., if you were to do a network diagram for your house, you'd have your WIFI setup, your switch (if any) your PCs, your router, and on the other side of the router a big cloud with the name of your ISP on it, to represent some service you use but don't know the details of. Another way of thinking of a cloud is that anything in it is "not my problem".
The big revolution has come in the past 5-10 years or so due to ISPs and other big network providers having HEAPS of unused disk and CPU capacity on modern machines, and rather than having it sitting there idle, they have become ASPs (application service providers) instead, by enabling customers (for a fee!) to use their gear for storage or running applications. Because these guys already HAVE all the hardware because they need to use a small portion of it, they can sell use of it to other people for far cheaper than the user could buy the hardware for themselves (it's already paying for itself by running the ISP network). Web page serving was the first cloud application most people would have used.
That's how it started anyway. With virtualization, it has become much easier to virtually slice up hardware resources and dedicate commited resources to multiple customers on the same physical machine.
"ASP" is a term many probably have not heard of before, but its what cloud providers were calling themselves in the early days (say, mid-late 90s) before the "cloud" term took off. I used to work for a regional ISP back in the late 90s and back then the writing was on the wall for any ISP with regards to providing only data - unless you can offer some sort of additional value (e.g., cloud services), data is a commodity and staying in that market only is just a race to the bottom in terms of profit margin.
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