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Rearranging deck chairs...

A spiteful move from a company that repeatedly demonstrates they don't have clue when it comes to mobile.
 
The tablet side of Surface (Metro), is a boring, unattractive OS which not many people would choose over a product like the iPad. And the useful side of Surface (regular Windows), is not meant for touchscreen so you need a mouse and keyboard to use it, making the surface just another laptop.

Why should I buy one again?
 
Microsoft is getting there ad's all wrong...they should focus on how well the Surface can sync with the Zune. ;-)

And don't I know it, own a Zune HD ;) actually own a few lemons made by both apple and Microsoft. Fact is , Zune was a good music player to be honest, and frankly apples best iPod was the 5.5 gen classic. The new stuff is gimmicky etc but still way behind the 5.5 gen
 
This reminds me of their Zune effort. They still don't get it. Its how
the device works so well and is easy to use.
 
MS Stores not helping any.

I'm working on a little web multimedia framework - just for my own photography purposes, and built on top of an existing system (KR Pano). However, since I'm adding new code, it needs testing, and that means testing under all different kinds of devices.

Living in the Silicon Valley, I have a Microsoft store close to me, so I stopped on by, hoping to give my test website a spin on their tablets. After all, I don't want to lock out any users, MS Surface users included.

Guess what? Web filters! I couldn't access my website! And my website's comment is extremely vanilla - no porn, no politics, no nothing. There are far worse things on Facebook, which isn't filtered.

So, I guess I have to tell Surface users that my content may not work, or work properly, on their machine. That will be a heck of an endorsement!
 
Surface vs. Surface RT confuses the target market

The Surface was never going to work. Many people said so at the launch. Even MS's own developers think it's a dog. When you have to explain what it is it's automatically a fail. Most people want simple to use. The iPad works because you just pick it up and go. The iTunes Store is head and shoulders above the competition.

If Apple made a cheaper mass market laptop or Google made an Android desktop rather than those limited Chromebooks, Microsoft would be toast.

Forget product quality comparisons for a second, and just consider the following:

2 products with almost identical form factors, launched at the same time into a crowded market to challenge an established market leader...

  • One runs a computer OS, one runs a tablet OS....but they look the same.
  • The target market has never heard of them and now they encounter the product in retail (Staples, Office Depot, etc.)
  • One is 2X the cost of the other and nobody in the store can tell them the difference between the 2 products.
If Apple came out with a new iPad called the iPad X and it ran a full version of OSX and cost twice what the iPad does (yes everyone on MR would want one), it would still be very confusing to all the non-fanboys.
 
Reminds me one of the old Chevy Equinox ads comparing itself to the Lexus RX...
One word sums it up: Lame.

Excellent point! Apple is the Lexus of Computers, Laptops and Tablets. People are willing to pay more for an excellent product. I myself drive a very safe and reliable Lexus RX :cool:

My brother bought the Chevy Equinox at the same time I bought the Lexus and is on his third new Crappy car! How much did he save?

Both my RX and my Apple products are still working great like the day I bought them!
 
The mobile side of Surface (Metro), is a boring, unattractive OS which not many people would choose over a product like the iPad. And the useful side of Surface (regular Windows), is not meant for touchscreen so you need a mouse and keyboard to use it, making the surface just another laptop.

Why should I buy one again?

The mobile side of iPad is iOS , the desktop version is OS X , blah blah same argument.

Though not sure what is so exciting and attractive about iOS to be honest , where he surface RT struggles is the Eco system, and in that I mean apps, if you love apps, windows is not for you. If you just want to use the most common apps, consume media, email and surf the web the surface is fine.
 
The Apple store employees are yawning out of exhaustion from selling too many iPads. The Microsoft store employees are yawning due to a lack of Surface sales, everybody is at the Apple store.
 
32GB Surface. Of which, 16GB is already gone to the OS...

Yup, 5GB used for recovery tools and 8GB reserved for Office applications and Windows RT

They need to put it on a diet!

An the flip side u do get a USB
 
The mac vs PC ads seemed dishonest to me. OS X has most of the same issues except for the number of viruses that target it... OS X is infinitely more stable, but still has issues.

(I use a Mac MOST of the time... 80% OS X, PC 10%, and linux 10%.)

It felt kind of lame watching Apple misrepresenting the PC when they didn't need to... at all...

iMac - #1 selling desktop computer.
MacBook - #1 selling laptop.
iPad - #1 selling tablet.

(Heres a ZDNet article from around the time period (I think it was 2011, not sure..): http://www.zdnet.com/blog/btl/apple-imac-macbook-pro-are-best-selling-desktop-notebook-in-u-s/59717)

there was just no reason to distort things.

I guarantee you that Apple is not in the top 5 worldwide, so I seriously doubt that the MacBook was ever #1
 
Same reason AAPL is down 40% since October

Why bring up Apple? Who cares? To me this is like a side show. It's like I'm at the superbowl but idc who wins. Don't own either of their stock, merely interesting to see how the market works. Kinda like an economics lesson for free.
 
Microsoft is desperate cuz surface sucks.

No, tablets in general suck - I still have not found one thing that would justify the purchase of a tablet instead of a notebook. For me, they're still luxury toys without a real purpose.

That being said -- IF I was going to buy one of those things, it definitely would be a hybrid like the Surface or the new Acer Iconia family. And it would definitely run a real operating system like Windows 8 (Pro) instead of a smartphone OS like Android or iOS. Why? Because I --do-- want to run those "legacy" desktop applications on it as well.

The real game changer will be Ubuntu 14.04 (Touch) next year; this is the first operating system that actually will scale from smartphone to tablet to notebook to desktop. Canonical's vision still is much clearer and better thought out than anything that Apple or Microsoft or Google have in the pipeline.
 
No, tablets in general suck - I still have not found one thing that would justify the purchase of a tablet instead of a notebook. For me, they're still luxury toys without a real purpose.

I think tablets are a solution to a problem that never really existed for most of us. But Apple was able to again meld awesome hardware with awesome software to create a compelling product that many of us want, even if we don't have a real need for it.

As for the Surface RT, that thing was a bust from the beginning. Microsoft did a poor job getting developer support. Without a sufficient number of RT apps, this thing was DOA. Now all they can do is try and dethrone the iPad with these pathetic iPads, but I think they'll find it won't do much good.
 
If they so cool, why do they have to look so much like Apple. Surely the would do their own thing, like set a new trend or something?
 
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