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The renting software model kills innovation/value. Think about it. In the standard model, when a new Office suite comes out, Microsoft has to make it appealing enough for you to buy it. If they don't, you'll stick with your old office.

Some people have been using old Office suites for 5-8 years and see no compelling reason to upgrade. They save a ton of money and if Microsoft doesn't truly make something worthwhile, they are more than happy to keep using their old suites.

In the renting model Microsoft can make mediocre or small incremental changes, just enough to give you the notion that they are doing something to earn your monthly subscription, but they don't have to truly innovate or come up with valuable features in the long term because they already have you 'subscribed'. And you can't just unsubscribe because your files are enslaved to it.

TLDR: Microsoft wins, you lose.
 
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Anyone else having trouble with repeat activation requests?
 
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So buy the standalone boxed version. It comes out in September.

Lets hope they keep offering that option in the long term. As we've seen with Adobe, which is one of the most prominent software companies, they've gone subscription-only and we are seeing the consequences now.
 
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So buy the standalone boxed version. It comes out in September.

We are not sure if this is the case, but I hope that it is (as many Apple users are). Their business model for the product does not make sense if they release a stand-alone version. Microsoft is trying to get away from that "old" model. Maybe there is a Santa Claus and I will be "surprised" if they do...

The Apple market is still weary of subscription based products and it would be wise of Microsoft to "slowly" introduce this eventual norm to the users. They will make a lot of money on this next version since it has been a long time since the last version if they release a stand-alone version.

Here's hoping in Santa Claus!
 
Lets hope they keep offering that option in the long term. As we've seen with Adobe, which is one of the most prominent software companies, they've gone subscription-only and we are seeing the consequences now.

What's wrong with Creative Cloud? Other than that stupid pop up that takes forever to load when you first start up Photoshop, Adobe's kept it on a pretty even keel, and provided some pretty interesting updates since they went sub only.

Don't get me wrong, I'd also prefer for there to always be a box option available alongside the subscription service, but I don't think going sub only is the absolute end of the world, either.
 
Lets hope they keep offering that option in the long term. As we've seen with Adobe, which is one of the most prominent software companies, they've gone subscription-only and we are seeing the consequences now.


It would be interesting to see stats on how Adobe is doing, including AVID with their now subscription only business model. Are many users going with the subscription or using older versions? If anyone noticed, with the recent updates to OS X Yosemite, the older programs that once was working are no longer. I used an old version of Adobe Elements and it started to crash with the latest update.
 
Here's hoping in Santa Claus!

I think they'll always keep it around just for those few who don't like or trust subscription services. If there is one problem with the new sub trend, it's that EVERYONE is starting to do it. If you subscribe to multiple services and software suites, it's gonna feel like you're being nickel and dimed to death with all these various seemingly cheap options.

Office isn't quite like PS. Adobe only has to offer something attractive to pros and high end enthusiasts. If you don't like it, oh well, there are other options for you. In contrast, MS wants everyone using Office. They'll be more tempted to keep some extra options open.
 
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Am I blind, or does the installer not let you select which apps to/to not install?
Having to install something I don't want and then remove it is silly.
 
The renting software model kills innovation/value. Think about it. In the standard model, when a new Office suite comes out, Microsoft has to make it appealing enough for you to buy it. If they don't, you'll stick with your old office.

Some people have been using old Office suites for 5-8 years and see no compelling reason to upgrade. They save a ton of money and if Microsoft doesn't truly make something worthwhile, they are more than happy to keep using their old suites.

In the renting model Microsoft can make mediocre or small incremental changes, just enough to give you the notion that they are doing something to earn your monthly subscription, but they don't have to truly innovate or come up with valuable features in the long term because they already have you 'subscribed'. And you can't just unsubscribe because your files are enslaved to it.

TLDR: Microsoft wins, you lose.

I disagree. If they want you to keep paying, they have to give you value. It isn't like a person can't just download their files and move to an suite at any point. You can stop subscribing at any point, the files won't mysteriously stop working.

Subscription model forces them to work on it continuously instead of making huge features once every three or five years to get everyone to purchase.
 
Really don't want to subscribe to this at all, or ever support MS Office again.

Pages, Numbers and Keynote work fine for me. Only problem being work.
Rather keep an older 2011 Office and use that standalone, than more $ in MS hand's.
 
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Glad someone sees it as it truly is...

It would be "ok" if you stopped the subscription and it would still work as it is considered the last version you have and would be considered an "old" version. BUT...if you decided to stop the subscription, then the program does not work and all of your documents etc. will not be able to open...

Meaning all someone has to do is pay $7 for one month and they get to keep the current version of Office forever?

Not a chance of that ever happening.
 
Yeah, tell that to Adobe. They still release one major release of CC once a year. And it's the same with Office. We are still on Office 2013 and it's not like they release "cool" new update to the Office every month. All this talk about providing continuous improvement is just a marketing nonsense.

Subscription model forces them to work on it continuously instead of making huge features once every three or five years to get everyone to purchase.
 
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It would be interesting to see stats on how Adobe is doing, including AVID with their now subscription only business model. Are many users going with the subscription or using older versions? If anyone noticed, with the recent updates to OS X Yosemite, the older programs that once was working are no longer. I used an old version of Adobe Elements and it started to crash with the latest update.

Lightroom will be offered as a stand alone purchase forever, according to Adobe.
 
It would be interesting to see stats on how Adobe is doing, including AVID with their now subscription only business model. Are many users going with the subscription or using older versions? If anyone noticed, with the recent updates to OS X Yosemite, the older programs that once was working are no longer. I used an old version of Adobe Elements and it started to crash with the latest update.

Get used to the subscription model because it isn't going away. Even Apple is now in it with their stream music service.
 
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