My understanding is that it's a universal binary for both Intel and Apple Silicon Macs. In other words, it's not native ARM64 code. I've amended the article title for clarification.
Done.You all really need to rectify the title of this article. It's NOT an app that supports AS. It's an app that supports Big Sur and will run through R2 on AS.
Very misleading title.
My understanding is that it's a universal binary for both Intel and Apple Silicon Macs. In other words, it's not native ARM64 code. I've amended the article title for clarification.
Done.
From the article it seems that they just made sure that office runs fine in Rosetta2. It's not ported to Apple Silicon yet.So MS gets this ported to the new silicon very quickly, but Adobe may not have their programs like Photoshop ported until early 2021, great job Adobe, lazy sods.
CorrectA universal binary contains native intel and arm code I thought? Rosetta is just for intel only apps?
I think Microsoft is using the 'universal binary' term to refer to Intel machines. If it contained native code for both Intel x86-64 and ARM64, it would be called Universal 2.A universal binary contains native intel and arm code I thought? Rosetta is just for intel only apps?
Cool! So no Rosetta 2? Awesome!Actually I have just downloaded the fast insider Beta 16.44 and it is in fact Universal Binary - Good job Microsoft
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Cool! So no Rosetta 2? Awesome!
You think that's slow?So MS gets this ported to the new silicon very quickly, but Adobe may not have their programs like Photoshop ported until early 2021, great job Adobe, lazy sods.
According to Microsoft's press release....Actually I have just downloaded the fast insider Beta 16.44 and it is in fact Universal Binary - Good job Microsoft
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Doesn't universal binary mean that there is native ARM code?My understanding is that it's a universal binary for both Intel and Apple Silicon Macs. In other words, it's not native ARM64 code. I've amended the article title for clarification.
According to Microsoft's press release....
"The first launch of each Office app will take longer as the operating system has to generate optimized code for the Apple Silicon processor. Users will notice that the apps 'bounce' in the dock for approximately 20 seconds while this process completes. Subsequent app launches will be fast."
That seems to indicate that it gets run through Rosetta 2. "Universal" doesn't necessarily indicate that it contains native code for each platform... just that the one binary can be installed on both platforms...
Universal installed on x86 MacOS = run natively.
Universal installed on AS MacOS = first run gets converted.
But given Microsoft's poor track record of clear communication, it is quite possible that they were incorrect.
Not necessarily. The original Universal binary allowed compatibility between Intel and PowerPC architecture slices. The new Universal 2 binaries contain architecture slices compatible with Intel and Apple Silicon.Doesn't universal binary mean that there is native ARM code?
Affinity Photo and Pixelmator will be ready in few days I'm quite sure. Adobe is.... obsolete
That is correct, but in the current context universal means universal 2. No developer is creating a universal powerpc/intel build.Not necessarily. The original Universal binary allowed compatibility between Intel and PowerPC architecture slices. The new Universal 2 binaries contain architecture slices compatible with Intel and Apple Silicon.
Granted, Microsoft hasn't been particularly clear on which one it's referring to.
Yep - If you look at the screenshot above all of the prior releases of Office before 16.44 were labeled 'Intel' and I am running Big Sur RC 2 and even Apples Apps are labeled Universal, even though they must clearly be Universal 2.That is correct, but in the current context universal means universal 2. No developer is creating a universal powerpc/intel build.
Microsoft has not ported anything yet. They only make use of Rosetta, which Adobe can too - without doing any work.So MS gets this ported to the new silicon very quickly, but Adobe may not have their programs like Photoshop ported until early 2021, great job Adobe, lazy sods.
You are correct the current release is Intel, however you can choose to download the 'Fast Insider' Beta release which is universal binary which will run natively on Apple Silicon. Apple demonstrated an Apple Silicon Mac back in June at WWDC running a native build of Office 365.Microsoft has not ported anything yet. They only make use of Rosetta, which Adobe can too - without doing any work.
James_C is on the money here - Microsoft tweeted this yesterday (paraphrased): Universal binaries including native ARM is released in beta channel, includes Word, Excel and Powerpoint . Purpose is for early ARM-adopters to test against m1-based hardware. No dates committed for final,Yep - If you look at the screenshot above all of the prior releases of Office before 16.44 were labeled 'Intel' and I am running Big Sur RC 2 and even Apples Apps are labeled Universal, even though they must clearly be Universal 2.
Microsoft, so much potential yet so little progress as a company.
They never really understood what their customers wanted and most importantly what they wanted Microsoft to be.
Leadership matters... cheers to Tim Apple.
? I thought same too. Why there hair on my monitor? I scroll bit and it moved then realised it part of website.