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Microsoft Releases Second 'Laptop Hunters' Commercial

brop52 said:
Since when were we talking about large businesses? I was talking about a "professional" with a desktop (or two if one is a notebook) and that individual being their own IT department. Of course if they have only one computer and that one isn't functioning then it becomes a problem when you have to send it off for repair if you don't know what is wrong with it. Having the original RAM around saves having to wait for Apple to repair it or diagnose the problem.

These are two separate situations. A larger business is not going to upgrade 200 computers with third party RAM. They work with the manufacturer to see if they can get some kind of discount and BTO to their specs they want or order a vanilla computer if they find that the original RAM is enough for the needs of the business.
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I doubt Dell sells many Precision Workstations to home and very small businesses. These guys don't need this kind of hardware. Profesionnal Workstations are usually found in organisations with dedicated IT and service contracts.

The problem with the Mac Pro is that people still think it's a sort of prosumer machine. This gives us the XPS Studio comparisons and the "ZOMG, Apple is 1000$ more expensive for less!". The Mac Pro is now a full fledged Professional Workstation that's meant to compete with the Precision line-up. Apple does have to work on Applecare though, not offering on-site support is killer for that segment (same with Xserves, I want a field engineer to deliver and replace that disk).
 
Eidorian said:
When did my 32-bit applications stop working on Vista 64-bit? :confused:

When has a Windows OEM machine not shipped with the proper drivers and the ability to restore them?

Does it bother you that people buy Windows and OEM machines with it preinstalled?
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No I don't give a damn, just don't come here insultig what people have purchased with their money because you got something you believe is similar for cheaper, then it's on.
 
Goona said:
No I don't give a damn, just don't come here insultig what people have purchased with their money because you got something you believe is similar for cheaper, then it's on.
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Then there isn't really a need to defend your higher priced purchase either.
 
digiguy23 said:
Microsoft is paying these people for the HP laptops that they are purchasing. HP is paying MS for the plugs and Microsoft sells Window software for both PC and Mac platforms as well as Microsoft office for the Macs. Seriously, blah blah blah. How do these people make a judgement before actually using a Mac? I am a PC user for 25 years. I build PCs. Never wanted a Mac. I switched because I worked near a COMPUSA and Fry's. The only reason I bought a Mac, is becuase everytime I went, I would play with it. Not the ads. I didn't even follow Apple.
When people can say Windows is better or the MacOS is better without even using it, is beyond me.
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Very good point. It does seem that the majority of people who favor Macs have experienced the Windows platform on PCs long enough to appreciate the upgrade to the Mac platform. The hands on experience offered at the stores is no doubt one of the greatest factors of Apple's success - their products seem to effectively sell themselves, especially for those who do not mind quality, style, reliability, functionality, stability, hassle free security, support, a great OS, and great software included.
 
KnightWRX said:
Look, I'm going to agree with you on Bose, being that they usually use higher end components and as far as head phones and speakers go, those will make a difference in the end result you get.

However, a Monster HDMI cable vs a generic Monoprice HDMI cable, your end result will be the same. There will be 0 different. None. Nada. Nothing. His analogy was a trap. Speakers/headphones are in the end, an analog media and are directly affected by the quality and craftsmanship of the part, but
digital signal over a cable either makes it to the other end or doesn't. 180$ is not getting your signal there any better.
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Ain't nothing wrong with buying from
monster, some people trust monster cables
so they will pay more which is why monster
cable is still in business. Same thing with the
accessories for iPods and iPhones, the cables
and earphones from Apple, you can get
them cheaper from the net but yet people pay more for Apple's because they trust Apple more, that's the beaut of captalism
 
kastenbrust said:
HAHA!! i have sliverlight installed and the video is still giving me a headache to get it working!! :p

Great.....Another advert in which Microsoft advertises how poor its customers are, except this time they went worse and suggested their customers are blind because they purposely choose ugly laptops!!
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You are exactly correct. Most of us are also looking at the aesthetics of the computer. I think the software and security in a Mac is worth paying more, although at the end of the day, with all the extras you have to buy to make your PC as good as a Mac, the Mac is still the best buy.

But you are absolutely correct: people buy cars based on aesthetics; they do the same with computers, now that computers have become a commmodity.
 
Goona said:
Ain't nothing wrong with buying from
monster, some people trust monster cables
so they will pay more which is why monster
cable is still in business. Same thing with the
accessories for iPods and iPhones, the cables
and earphones from Apple, you can get
them cheaper from the net but yet people pay more for Apple's because they trust Apple more, that's the beaut of captalism
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Except that trust is completely unfounded. Monster are scamming people out of their hard earned money. If you don't think so, I'm sorry for you. Digital signal either works or it doesn't. There's no varying grade of quality.
 
habros said:
Or was the "press" and you repeating what Apple was saying?
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Funny thing Apple quoted the press in their ads, I guess now Apples RDF has also extended to the press. SoMe of us have actually used Vista for extensive periods of time so we know what we are talking about.
 
Sooooooo Boring

This thread is just dull.

The fact that people with poor tastes make bad judgments in their purchases is not an interesting one. So what?

This is just a deal with HP.
 
stevearm said:
Great ad.

Apple fanboys up in arms because Microsoft have DARED to do exactly what Apple have been doing for years and years. Only Microsoft are actually basing their ads on real-world, consumer facts and don't sugar coat it with pretentious nonsense like the I'm a mac, I'm a pc ad.

Also amazing how Microsoft have in one campaign completely ruined Apple's "I'm a mac, I'm a PC" slogan.

The apple fanboys bitching and moaning is fun to watch though
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Is Bill Gates posting? Is this his alias, or is it Ballmer's?
 
habros said:
It looks like you just pinpointed the root cause of your Windows issues.
Do me a favour, disable "Software Update" is OSX and see how far you get.
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We do the same. We have our own internal mechanisms to install updates, which use some in-house scripts on top of WUS. Every update is tested on a lab, be it for servers or workstations before it is applied on every machine in the shop. This prevents the support people from walking into a disaster area one morning where an update basically destroyed over 10,000 of our workstations and 800 of our servers.

The updates are pushed out once a month.
 
Serpico74 said:
You are incorrect. Let's do an apples-to-apples pricing (no pun intended) and outfit the Precision with a Nehalem Xeon

- Quad Core Intel® Xeon® X5550 2.66GHz, 8M L3, 6.4GT/s Turbo
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The X5550 is the dual-socket capable Turbo model.

The quad core Mac Pro has the W3520 Xeon Nehalem, according to every published review that I've seen. (Apple doesn't give useful specs for its computers.) See http://www.everymac.com/systems/by_processor/intel-xeon-macs.html for Mac Pro Xeon model numbers.

The published benchmarks pretty clearly show that the 2.66 Quad core is not a turbo model.

The earlier prices showing a $750 Apple Tax for the quad Mac Pro was correct.
 
Goona said:
I think it stems from jealousy, a lot of them are mad they can't afford macs so they come here to vent frustrations. It's like people who want a BMW but can only afford Honda so they try to make thrmself believe that to get the same experience from the Honda as the BMW.
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Does mac ownership make you feel special???
 
bedifferent said:
What if it does? Is there anything wrong with feeling good about owning a Mac (or PC)?
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Of course it does. It you feel good about owning a Mac, you're a fanboy. If you feel good about owning a PC, you're a sensible consumer who knows the value of a dollar and realises that Windows is perfect in every way.

:rolleyes:
 
I think these commercials (whether staged, poorly acted, favoring HP, or not) are healthy competition for Apple. Though some may dismiss the commercials as irrelevant to Apple, they spent quite a bit of money on their I'm a PC, I'm a Mac advertising campaign. Apple wants more market share. They succeeded in getting more. However, now it seems Microsoft has an interesting response to Cupertino.

I hope the commercials have the effect of lowering Mac prices and re-tooling their product line specifications to provide more choice to the consumers (not actors).

:apple:
 
AidenShaw said:
The X5550 is the dual-socket capable Turbo model.

The quad core Mac Pro has the W3520 Xeon Nehalem, according to every published review that I've seen. (Apple doesn't give useful specs for its computers.) See http://www.everymac.com/systems/by_processor/intel-xeon-macs.html for Mac Pro Xeon model numbers.

The published benchmarks pretty clearly show that the 2.66 Quad core is not a turbo model.

The earlier prices showing a $750 Apple Tax for the quad Mac Pro was correct.
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Yeah I do believe you're correct, the W3520. My boss just ordered the 2.93Ghz quad and it should arrive this coming Friday, so I can post what's in there too.

After looking at the price difference between the HP Z400 and the Quad MP, he decided on the MP since he can run both OS X and Windows on it.
 
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