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PCs are what parents buy for themselves so they can afford to buy Macs for their kids.

If you are still living with your parents and own a Mac you didn't buy it yourself.

Ads are designed to get you to look at a product and maybe remember a few key words. They are not necessarily factual. Although I bought a Tacoma I don't expect it to be drivable after a direct meteor hit.

The Craigslist people in the ad went through some sort of screening process to determine if they matched a profile that might work within the parameters of the ad. I'm sure the producers didn't want to waste time and money buying Macs for a MS ad. I wouldn't be surprised though if a few were bought if they fit within the tight budgets the producers set. You just won't see them on Youtube.

Maybe everyone of you researches everything you buy to death, but it takes time and effort. It almost becomes a full time job every time you buy something that costs the equivalent of a Mac or PC laptop. So unless you do this for every purchase (appliances, vehicles, cameras, home theater, pots and pans, kitchen sinks and fixtures, furniture, sunglasses, just keep going...), and have that stored in your brain for recall, you really can't fault Lauren and the G guy for their purchases after showing up for their audition. They ended up with a free computer and cash.

I have a 12" Powerbook G4 I inherited when my daughter got a new Macbook. I have an i7 desktop on order which should be here in about 10 days, so I'm a happy camper.
 
Creating Wealth

Going way up in the helicopter here... If you got your own country, you wouldn't think that making all things cheaper within a narrow band would increase the general wealth of the country. Options are good, great even, so I don't see the issue here with the range of price in the laptop segment.

Ppl can buy cheap stuff when it suits them and buy better (other) stuff also when it suits them. A lower price Mac would mean I'd upgrade sooner, but the PC isn't in my sights for a bunch of reasons, mainly nothing to do with the hardware itself.
 
If you are still living with your parents and own a Mac you didn't buy it yourself.

I'm 20 years old in college. I live in an apartment at school, but back at home I live with my parents.

I paid for my Macbook and my iPhone with my own money.
 
Could afford an Apple but too cheap for the soap?

I sure am looking forward to Windows 7's brilliant implementation of multi-touch for LCD monitors. I've set a placeholder for a spray bottle of Windex on the left side of the desk, and an armrest directly in front of the monitor to reduce fatigue.
 
I sure am looking forward to Windows 7's brilliant implementation of multi-touch for LCD monitors. I've set a placeholder for a spray bottle of Windex on the left side of the desk, and an armrest directly in front of the monitor to reduce fatigue.

You won't need the Windex. And don't worry about fatigue - you don't have to touch the screen if that doesn't fit your style. I find it liberating to just poke a button on a webpage, rather than finding the mouse and moving it to the button and pressing MB1.

Of course, since Apple seems to find "choice" to be an abomination - if an Apple has touch screen it probably won't have a keyboard or a USB port to connect a mouse.
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While I apparently have much better hygiene than that other guy (or I don't eat spare ribs or fried chicken when at the computer), when my multi-touch laptop is off, the screen does look a mess.

When the screen is lit (LED backlights, of course), I don't see any of the smudges that are so obvious when the screen is dark.

DMann, if you believed what you wrote, then surely you must believe than an Iphone is unusable for the same reason....


I'm 20 years old in college. I live in an apartment at school, but back at home I live with my parents.

I paid for my Macbook and my iPhone with my own money.

Your "own money" - after the free room and board living at home?

Do you pay for tuition, room and board at college from your own earnings, or do you have help?

My arrangement at college was that mom and dad (and the scholarships) covered all the school expenses, and "my money" that I earned over the summer went for toys. ;)
 
Haha, these commercials get the Apple apologists panties in a twist, as evidenced by the huge amount of posts scrambling for specs and justifications. Funny stuff!

Although I will say that with a $1500 budget, I would've bought the Sony Vaio FW series. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16834117857


For $1300 you get:
  • XBRITE-Full HD 16.4" screen, 1920x1080 resolution smokes the 15" MBP and for all intents and purposes matches the 17"MBP.
  • Core 2 Duo 2.4GHz.
  • 4GB RAM (with Vista 64-bit to use it all).
  • Dedicated 512MB ATI Mobility Radeon HD 3650 video card.
  • Blu-ray drive that's not even available on a Mac.
  • Magnesium alloy cage.
  • Chicklet keys (that Sony had first and Apple copied) that work better than Mac's version.
  • 6.4 pounds light.

That's value in a well built, beautiful laptop that Apple cannot touch.
 

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You won't need the Windex. And don't worry about fatigue - you don't have to touch the screen if that doesn't fit your style. I find it liberating to just poke a button on a webpage, rather than finding the mouse and moving it to the button and pressing MB1.

That is, of course, if you happen to be sitting at arms length to the monitor - I generally sit further back while using a 30", but that's just me.

Of course, since Apple seems to find "choice" to be an abomination - if an Apple has touch screen it probably won't have a keyboard or a USB port to connect a mouse. While I apparently have much better hygiene than that other guy (or I don't eat spare ribs or fried chicken when at the computer), when my multi-touch laptop is off, the screen does look a mess.
The choice that Apple does offer, is actually quite ideal - a large trackpad which responds to multi-touch gestures. This way, you have multi-touch capabilities while keeping the greasy fingers off the screen.

DMann, if you believed what you wrote, then surely you must believe than an Iphone is unusable for the same reason....
I certainly believe that I, and the majority of iPhone users, hold the iPhone facing upward so to minimize the resistance of gravity. If it were necessary to hold the phone at the same perpendicular angle as a desktop monitor, then perhaps, I would understand your point.
 
Have they always given an option of downgrading to an 8 year old OS. I mean when 7 comes out you will have the option of downgrading to XP. I don't recal this happening before.

Good to have options, eh?
 
Of course it does. It you feel good about owning a Mac, you're a fanboy. If you feel good about owning a PC, you're a sensible consumer who knows the value of a dollar and realises that Windows is perfect in every way.

:rolleyes:

Hehehehe, couldn't have put it better.
 
That is, of course, if you happen to be sitting at arms length to the monitor - I generally sit further back while using a 30", but that's just me.

Then, quite simply, it will be your choice not to use the screen.

"Choice" is a good thing.

We have been discussing laptops in this thread, however, so the typical case is that your fingers are already within centimetres of the screen.

The choice then is:
- Moving the fingers to the track pad, moving the cursor, then clicking MB1 (or standing on your head, scratching your package, and holding another key down while clicking MB1 to show that you want an MB3 click).​
or
- Touch the button or link on the webpage or form​

I'm coming at this from the opposite side, however. After 5 years of using a touch-screen phone, I've been finding myself poking at the screen to click on things. Finally, the pokes are working!

I'm appalled by people saying that a multi-touch screen is a bad thing. Since when is choice bad?


The choice that Apple does offer, is actually quite ideal - a large trackpad which responds to multi-touch gestures. This way, you have multi-touch capabilities while keeping the greasy fingers off the screen.

It's not a "choice" if it's the only thing that Apple offers.
 
You won't need the Windex. And don't worry about fatigue - you don't have to touch the screen if that doesn't fit your style. I find it liberating to just poke a button on a webpage, rather than finding the mouse and moving it to the button and pressing MB1.

Of course, since Apple seems to find "choice" to be an abomination - if an Apple has touch screen it probably won't have a keyboard or a USB port to connect a mouse.
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While I apparently have much better hygiene than that other guy (or I don't eat spare ribs or fried chicken when at the computer), when

DMann, if you believed what you wrote, then surely you must believe than an Iphone is unusable.


Your "own money" - after the free room and board living at home?

Do you pay for tuition, room and board at

My arrangement at college was that covered all the school expenses, and "my money" that I earned over the summer went for toys. ;)
If you think using an iPhone is the same as touching a 900 dollars display, then you are clueless.
 
That's value in a well built, beautiful laptop that Apple cannot touch.

enjoy it then, and join their thread discussion group.

You and others do not get it:

- Macs just work,
- are easy to use,
- requirement for use is to have some intuition

if I give my mother an HP or any other laptop, what do I do when she cannot operate the thing? With a mac, I have no such problems. Do you get this?
 
Haha, these commercials get the Apple apologists panties in a twist, as evidenced by the huge amount of posts scrambling for specs and justifications. Funny stuff!

Although I will say that with a $1500 budget, I would've bought the Sony Vaio FW series. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16834117857


For $1300 you get:
  • XBRITE-Full HD 16.4" screen, 1920x1080 resolution smokes the 15" MBP and for all intents and purposes matches the 17"MBP.
  • Core 2 Duo 2.4GHz.
  • 4GB RAM (with Vista 64-bit to use it all).
  • Dedicated 512MB ATI Mobility Radeon HD 3650 video card.[/list
    • Blu-ray drive that's not even available on a Mac.
    • Magnesium alloy cage.
    • Chicklet keys (that Sony had first and Apple copied) that work better than Mac's version.
    • 6.4 pounds light.

    That's value in a well built, beautiful laptop that Apple cannot touch.
  • Should we clap for you, I mean you are so much smarter than everyone and we are all a bunch of idiots because we don't have te same insight as you in picking computers.
 
Haha, these commercials get the Apple apologists panties in a twist, as evidenced by the huge amount of posts scrambling for specs and justifications. Funny stuff!

Although I will say that with a $1500 budget, I would've bought the Sony Vaio FW series. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16834117857


For $1300 you get:
  • XBRITE-Full HD 16.4" screen, 1920x1080 resolution smokes the 15" MBP and for all intents and purposes matches the 17"MBP.
  • Core 2 Duo 2.4GHz.
  • 4GB RAM (with Vista 64-bit to use it all).
  • Dedicated 512MB ATI Mobility Radeon HD 3650 video card.
  • Blu-ray drive that's not even available on a Mac.
  • Magnesium alloy cage.
  • Chicklet keys (that Sony had first and Apple copied) that work better than Mac's version.
  • 6.4 pounds light.

That's value in a well built, beautiful laptop that Apple cannot touch.


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if (VAIO can run MACOS) {

                                it's a good laptop

                                     }
else {

      put it in recycle bin

       }
 
Does mac ownership make you feel special???

actually yes.

it says that I value quality in life over quantity,.

to me, owning a mac feels as when going to hear a well executed symphony. If you know what you are hearing, then you will appreciate it.

owning a pc feels as when going to a concert. you may enjoy the outdoors, the music, the drunk folks next to you.

having enjoyed both at one point or another (by exercising freedom to choose what pleases me), at the very least, when you get home, you smell different. :)

aahhh... to own a mac! :)
 
actually yes.

it says that I value quality in life over quantity,.

to me, owning a mac feels as when going to hear a well executed symphony. If you know what you are hearing, then you will appreciate it.

owning a pc feels as when going to a concert. you may enjoy the outdoors, the music, the drunk folks next to you.

having enjoyed both at one point or another (by exercising freedom to choose what pleases me), at the very least, when you get home, you smell different. :)

aahhh... to own a mac! :)

Or you can have quality with quantity and just install OSX86 and enjoy Mac OSX on more powerful hardware thats much cheaper.

I love OSX but I'm not a lemming thats going to let Apple price gouge me.
 
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