Sorry, that $250K must be spent on Windows PCs. From Best Buy. Where Microsoft is all about "choice." So long as the PC in question has Windows on it.
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Microsoft Releases Second 'Laptop Hunters' Commercial
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Sorry, that $250K must be spent on Windows PCs. From Best Buy. Where Microsoft is all about "choice." So long as the PC in question has Windows on it.
Well, Lisa and Jackson found a 16.4" VAIO with Blu-ray for under $1500 - so at least the "overpriced" is wrong
Wow, I can't believe Microsoft mentioned Blu-ray in a commercial.
Why not - their operating system supports hardware-accelerated 1080p playback....
Did the part where the mom jokingly asks her son if he wanted the pink laptop crack anybody else up? And the really long pause where the poor kid doesn't respond?
Let's see, Microsoft has now insulted its own customers a total of five times. First they implied that PC buyers are poor and uncool, then they said PC users have no taste, and now they're saying that PC users are 11 years old and hiding in the closet.
/sarcasm
And the really long pause where the poor kid doesn't respond?Let's see, Microsoft has now insulted its own customers a total of five times. First they implied that PC buyers are poor and uncool, then they said PC users have no taste, and now they're saying that PC users are 11 years old and hiding in the closet.
/sarcasm
Apparently you don't know much about their console war with Sony, specifically the blu-ray hd-dvd portion of it. Hey I don't mind, advertisement for blu-ray is advertisement for Sony and I like Sony as much as I like Apple. I just think it's ironic is all.
Why is Sony selling notebooks with Intel processors running Microsoft Windows as the operating system again?
Why am I not surprised by the fact that you two find that funny. And that fact, regarding material produced to incite a response says a lot about you both and what you are doing here. MS would probably be saddened to know that it has people like yourselves championing its cause.
I prefer the adverts.
Hah yeah, consoles are kids toys. Thats why the majority of games sold are games like Grand Theft Auto 4, Halo 3, and Gears of War. Yup, definitely for kids
Lack of understanding alert.
Nothing says that you can't run any OS other than Windows on a Dell or HP. They just won't give you software support for any other OS than what your system shipped with or they offered to upgrade you to in the case of the early upgrade programs.
Don't forget that Dell and HP and other pre-built PCs are NOT your only choice when it comes to non-Apple hardware. Theres absolutely nothing stopping you from building your own system piece by piece and throwing whatever OS you want on it.
Again, this boils down to the lack of choice with Apple. It's either the iWay or the Highway. You have to buy what hardware they tell you that you want or nothing at all. If you're a consumer and you want a laptop, you're stuck with either a really poorly built plastic 13.3" notebook, a slightly less poorly built notebook thats even more expensive.. or you can go for the "Pro" machines which are really just really expensive consumer devices. Again, Apple offers no choice. I can't get a cheap 17" notebook through Apple nor can I get a truly "pro" system through them. ITs either the one system or nothing at all.
And you're right, people do have the choice to not buy Apple. And they don't. Thats why Apple's marketshare is so insignificant world wide and and so small in the US. People want choice and Windows PCs give them that choice.
So Apple somehow orders parts that are built to higher quality specifications?
Please. Look up the part numbers for your HDD and optical drive and such and you'll find they're no different than ones used in other systems. The only difference is that Apple gets a little Apple logo put on the stickers on their drives. Otherwise they are exactly the same. You know, Best Buy, Fry's, Walmart, and Target all do this on a number of products too. You know why they do it? Not because they want technically different products, but so that way you can't go from Home Depot to Lowes and say "Home Depot has this product for this much, I want you to use your price matching policy on it". They do it so that way they can say "sorry, we don't carry that exact product". Best Buy and Circuit City started doing this YEARS ago. I mean years and years ago on computer products. You'd find the same exact computer in their fliers. Exactly the same down to the look and specs. The difference is that they'd have slightly different model numbers, off by one or two numbers. That way they could each say they didn't carry each others products and not match the prices.
Yes it does include me. Why? Because, having used OS X for years now, I know for a fact from personal experience that it is entirely overrated and not nearly as capable as Windows is. The latest commercial makes it a point to mention "blu-ray", something OS X can not do. Something important to me, since I like movies.
You just have to accept the fact that OS X isn't all its cracked up to be and that its not as capable as Windows. These commercials show you get much more for your money all around.
CNET? Nobody with any sort of real technical knowledge things of CNET as anything other than the equivalent of the Three Stooges of technology news sites. Their reviews and product insights are a joke. This proves it. They're playing into the Apple fanboys to drive up readership on their site to increase ad revenue.
You know, if people were truly that "tired" of Windows and really believed it was bad, as the overly vocal minority would have you believe, the average person could switch. But they don't. Because Windows does everything they need AND want it to do, unlike OS X.
That "bug" was taken care of via hotfixes very early on. Had you actually known what you were talking about when it comes to Windows and not believing just Apple and the fanboys lies, you'd know this
It's only mentioned with SP1 because SP1 generally contains all fixes prior to release of the service pack. I can tell you what OS X bugs I've encountered. My favorite was when I clicked "Burn" in Finder in a Burn Folder and the entire computer locked up. That was fun.
Not true. I only ever see UAC as often as I see a password prompt in OS X. You should try actually using Vista.
Not true. The only "crapware" PCs come loaded with these days is usually a Norton trial and an Office trial. Don't forget that it wasn't too long ago that Macs shipped with both iWork and Office trials, the same amount of crapware as a PC.
No more true than Macs needing upgrades to run Leopard. Leopard runs AWFUL on 1GB of RAM. I know from experience. Leopard and Vista both have very similar hardware requirements. Which is why both MS and Apple are focusing on optimization for their next major releases.
Let's not forget that Apple was still selling computers with 512MB of RAM standard while the rest of the industry had moved on to 1 and 2GB configurations as standard. Plus PC manufacturers were selling low end notebook systems with 1GB before Apple, and they cost less than Apple as well. Generally half as much.
You were much less likely to have to upgrade your PC to run Vista properly than you were to have to upgrade your Mac to run Leopard properly. I'm still in awe over how bad Leopard runs on 1GB of RAM.
iPhoto doesn't do anything that Windows Photo Gallery doesn't do, other than the sometimes working sometimes not facial recognition. iMovie and iDVD? Please, I'll take the higher quality software that ships with any digital video camera.
Because everyone lives near a Genius Bar. I live in southern California and the closest Apple store is 70 miles away! Plus the Genius Bar is useless. They look at the system and say "Oh we have to send this out for repair" so you're without the system for a week anyway.
And starting at Vista Home Premium, all of which are more capable than OS X.
Windows 7 will only have 2 versions available to the general public. Home Premium and Pro. The rest will only be available for special orders.
Because all of those college students getting their liberal arts degrees really know what they're doing! It has nothing at all to do with the fact that their parents are paying for everything and they wanted to conform and go along with the rest of the trendy students.
Now after they get their degree and they're working at McDonalds, lets see what computer they choose when they have to pay for it.
What desperation?
By the time Windows 7 comes out, Vista will have been available for roughly 2.5 years. Thats a typical product cycle for MS. XP was the only exception to this rule. Every other product has had a 2-3 year product cycle.
As I said before, going by this logic, Apple is scrambling to get the successor to Leopard out for the same reasons. Leopard is bloated, slow, and has high system requirements. Snow Leopard is just like Windows 7, not too much new and most of the improvements under the hood.
Of course in your case, better is pretty subjective.
. Best buy is a retail outlet. I'm sure everyone of their products can be found cheaper if you're willing to order online. Some people prefer to have stuff the same day and encourage the local economy while their at it. Getting out in the sun and driving can also be a good by itself.RAID 0, lol. Why buy a Laptop if you want dual HDDs and SLI video cards. That thing isn't even going to make it out the door with the battery still charged, even in sleep mode.
If you're that desperate for a high-end gaming rig, just save money and get a desktop. Not man enough to carry that big case to the lan party ?
Invaluable.
Anyways I'm wondering if any of the Windows fanboys here can help me with this problem?
When I boot the computer displays "hal.dll is missing". I pop the disk in, transfered another copy in following an online guide; problem wasn't solved. Again, I pop the disk in, went for the "repair" option. Didn't work; now I'm stuck; the HDD is stuck inside the computer so I can't take it out and transfer the files, and I'm wondering how I can solve this. Maybe you can help me out.
Exactly what I was thinking; anything heavier than 6 pounds is way too heavy for any "portability". Anything more than that, you'll be better off with a desktop.
I don't [regularly] use Windows computers and I know that--
"Nothing" that is, except for Apple's EULA.
Even if you don't want to honor the EULA as a valid contract, Michael Dell has had his company (Dell) is choosing to honor Apple's EULA, despite publicly expressing his desire to have OS X 3 years ago.
Incorrect: there's evidence that it will not run as well (hence, Hackintosh patches) and the existence of the EULA means that there is not a zero risk of legal problems. And since DIY systems don't have a single-source Warranty, that's another hassle to consider in a trade-offs.
And since all 3 of these problems can be solved simply by throwing money at the problem (eg, paying the 'Apple Tax'), that also can be factored into a purchase decision.
And my point is simply that "The Highway" is yet another choice.
Factually incorrect. You can go buy a Windows OS machine, or you can go buy an older used Mac OS machine.
And Porsche doesn't make/sell pickup trucks ... but that doesn't stop people from buying what they do make.
What you don't want to accept is that no company is under any obligation to offer a complete line of products, to be "Everything to Everybody".
And if you haven't noticed, the "Everything to Everybody" business model has its flaws ... an example that you're now literally paying for ... is General Motors (GM).
So Apple somehow orders parts that are built to higher quality specifications?
And go to Home Depot (as I said) and compare part#s and they'll be "Identical" too.
That's another, different trick than what I'm referring to.
To clarify, the two tricks are:
a) Identical product, different Part# (what you're referring to)
b) Different product, identical Part# (what I'm referring to).
One of the things that I've done professionally (not for Apple) is to buy Products that have been tested & qualified to our higher in-house standards. Technically, one can go out and buy the "Same Part#" from our supplier, but that doesn't mean that the production lot really is an equal: occasionally, we'll reject a lot as not good enough for our needs, but because its "good enough" for other buyers, they'll sell it to others rather than scrapping it.
In some instances, we've caught vendors trying to "salt in" bad pieces from a failed inspection lot into one of our new production runs. There's all sorts of games manufacturers play like this, often because of how they choose to incentivize their line supervisors.
Sorry, but I currently use both OS's daily...and have been for at least a decade. Its your prerogative to conclude that for your needs that there's no differentiation, just as it is mine that there is. In both cases, we decide on our own how much we're willing to pay for the level of differentiation that we see and put value upon. This is classical "Adam Smith" stuff.
If you don't see adequate value for yourself in OS X, then don't buy it.
Yes, you have a choice...and so do I.
iPhoto handles RAW files better, and it has more output options, such as hard stock cards and books (photo albums). The combination of iPhoto and a first grandchild is essentially why my one brother finally gave up on Windows last month and got a new 24" iMac.
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I have no sympathy for people who hang on to their 6-year-old computer as their only computer and then watch in horror when they install the latest operating system (or at least try to) and their computer bursts into flames. A question, why do people try to prove the superiority of one operating system over another based on which one runs "best" on a couple megabytes of RAM? Please name me one operating system out there that isn't a BITCH to deal with running on outdated hardware. Windows XP on a beige Dell with 128 MB RAM? Hellish.
And Microsoft might "support" Windows 2000, (probably from a call center in India) but good-effing-luck trying to find any modern software that will run on it. At work, I get the occasional octogenarian customer who still has an old 98/ME box and feels the need to bitch me out because my store doesn't carry any new printers (using parallel ports) that will work with his ancient P.O.F.S.
A more adequate comparison: running Vista on 256GB DDR RAM, 1st gen Pentium 4 processors.. funn**
Excellent, a screenshot ... just in case he thinks I made up the specs I read off the side of the Leopard box.
Plus, some of us are watching him trying to ignore that "plain english" rewrite articulation challenge.
Time then to include this screen shot, to show Leopard running on an actual PPC Mac:
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Well you can count me out of the "Apple crowd" in that regard.
And as for having to replace the machine, no sh*t. If the computer is 5 - 6 years old, it's high-effing-time for a new computer anyway, incompatible OS upgrade or not.
That being said, I've used several old Power Macs (running Tiger) that I've found surprisingly usable for things like Photoshop. Not to mention that when it's time to sell, you can easily get $500+, whereas nobody would pay five bucks for a PC the same age.
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I would naturally want a new one in about half that time (~3 years), since computer graphics software are some of those that would require computing power.
Ill-informed more like.
Way to completely ignore what I said and go off on a tangent! I was AGREEING with you - Apple's market share is insignificant and not likely to get much higher. So why is Microsoft so scared?
There you go again, trying to deflect Vista's relative failure onto OS X. Of course a release of Windows is going to dwarf a release of Mac OS, nobody is disputing that. But it's well documented that Vista's reception from both critics and users was disappointing. Everybody knows people who haven't upgraded because of the bad press or who have gone back to XP because they can't get on with Vista.
It simply IS true. My Mac does everything I want it to, and it does it faster than a PC, because OS X is a joy to use and doesn't get in the way and piss me off with stupid popups like Vista does.
Actually I spent more than that, I live in the UK. And it was worth every penny. Not only is it a work of art, it makes my job a pleasure to do. A much better user experience than a crappy PC.
And how many of those are buying their first Mac? I guarantee you that every bidder is someone who has already bought into the Apple hype and not an average person
You guarantee? Where is your evidence? Ever considered that maybe eBay buyers are those who want to dip their toes in without splurging on a brand new one?
Your use of the phrase "bought into the Apple hype" is ironic, given your use of the phrase "Apple Tax". Shows you are just buying into the Microsoft hype in the latest ad.
Wish you would.
I sincerely hope so.
MacRumors has a Forum for people looking to sell their unwanted gear.
mosx does know about it. Apparently, he was soured by a cracked case problem on a mid-2007 Macbook in October 2008 (a year after purchase?)...even though Apple apparently fixed (replaced?) it for free (or under AppleCare), which apparently ended his interest in dumping it.
In any case, if its still running OK, I'll offer $200 for that 2007 MacBook right now...and offer an extra $100 if mosx also closes down his MacRumors account too. And if he provides proof of age, I'll throw in a case of Belgian Beer, too.
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...and offer an extra $100 if mosx also closes down his MacRumors account too.[/I]
Better yet, MacRumors needs a trollblock button. Whitefang is filling the pipes with idiocy too. Both these tools need to be blocked from my view - I have no time for their stupidity. Let these mindless Winbots go commiserate with their ilk on the Dell support forums, the Steve Ballmer Sweatclub, or some lame overclocking gamer board.
Gizmodo on the Dell Adamo:
"The Adamo is a bit of a strange beast. It's not as feathery as the Lenovo X301 or the MacBook Air, and even with that extra pound of heft, it's (overall) not as powerful as the MacBook Aira computer that's incidentally cheaper than the Adamo in its base configuration."
So much for the Apple Tax...
mosx does know about it. Apparently, he was soured by a cracked case problem on a mid-2007 Macbook in October 2008 (a year after purchase?)...even though Apple apparently fixed (replaced?) it for free (or under AppleCare), which apparently ended his interest in dumping it.
In any case, if its still running OK, I'll offer $200 for that 2007 MacBook right now...and offer an extra $100 if mosx also closes down his MacRumors account too. And if he provides proof of age, I'll throw in a case of Belgian Beer, too.
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Apple gave him a unibody MB after that - which he still has. Obviously he could has sold it (it being brand new) but prefers to make up excuses for why he's kept it. Quite sad really
G3 has no velocity engine. That means Leopard isn't supported. Besides graphics there isn't much difference between Tiger and Leopard (Time Machine). G3s run fine with Tiger. What's the point of spending money to upgrade to an OS that is worth more than the computer you run it on? I would hope your machine can run XP as it came out in 2001. Leopard came out in late 2007. They aren't even comparable.
How about comparing it to something relevant, like Panther, which came out a little after XP? Because yes, it runs on 9 year old PC's.
Oh and Tiger, that came out several years after XP, runs just great on my TiBook from 2001.
http://www.everymac.com/systems/apple/powerbook_g4/stats/powerbook_g4_400.html