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Microsoft Remains on Offensive with 'Apple Tax' Report and Latest Laptop Ad
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http://www.sonystyle.com/webapp/wcs...10151&langId=-1&productId=8198552921665748044
That laptop is actually $1,429.99 on Sony's website. And its actually 7 pounds.
It's not an LED backlight either. Thats a $100-150 option if available from most computer makers.
4GB of 800mhz DDR2 RAM is ok. But 800mhz? Really? The FSB is rated at 1066mhz, but the memory isnt? Not great. 4 GB of 1066 mhz DDR3 would be rock solid though.
Can't really see anything about this laptop that I don't like. Other then Vista and bloatware. I could care less about blu-ray. The only HD tv is my house is my 32' 720p anyway. I use an XBox on it and watch DVD's or netflix.
It's a decent computer though. Not bad.
I hate the stickers all over, haha.
I don't like external tuners hence the PCI-Express x1 and All-In-Wonder comment. Having 8 USB ports off of the motherboard is nice though. I'm fine with my onboard audio as well on my Gigabyte EP45-DS3L.
Good for them.
I bought a MBP, I would buy another one.
People who have the money buy them
I could give two ****s that I can get a same spec machine for less.
It has a remote built in and it has a million lights telling you stuff!!1111 I dont care!!!!!!
If I walked into a uni with a macbook pro and the same spec dell (which when I bought his in sept 2007 was £287 IIRC (15% cheaper) I think everyone would want the apple...
OS X and the build quality is why I buy a mac. I have NEVER seen a case as well made as my mac pro, even the Lian Li's i've had dont come close.
I bought a MBP, I would buy another one.
People who have the money buy them
I could give two ****s that I can get a same spec machine for less.
It has a remote built in and it has a million lights telling you stuff!!1111 I dont care!!!!!!
If I walked into a uni with a macbook pro and the same spec dell (which when I bought his in sept 2007 was £287 IIRC (15% cheaper) I think everyone would want the apple...
OS X and the build quality is why I buy a mac. I have NEVER seen a case as well made as my mac pro, even the Lian Li's i've had dont come close.
am i poor for spending $2000 on a computer that isnt a Mac?
does it automatically make me poor if i want performance over looks?
so everyone that doesnt buy a mac is poor? what about the IT guys that prefer buying computer parts and spending a rediculous amount of money on it? they dont have a mac, they didnt spend anything less than $5000-$10000 so are they poor?
the amount i indicated means they got
custom case (it is aluminum but its not a mac case)
server board (dual Opty)
64GB of ram (board supports 128GB of ram)
dual GTX295's in SLI
dual raid cards that support 0/1/5/50
150GB WD Raptors x4 in Raid 0
2x 2TB for storage
redundant 1500W PSUs
(yes ive seen someone buy this at a local computer store)
i guess they are poor too hey?
what if i want to have a fast cpu for encoding do i have to buy a macpro for almost $3000? my $2000 machine encodes faster than a mac pro but its a PC that means im cheap right?
I've heard of people plugging their macbooks into their TV's and having it "just work" and PC's having a hard time outputting video to TV's without drivers and installations and settings issues.
A thread about it was somewhere in the MacBook forum, I believe. Pictures included.
I honestly don't own a 1080p TV, so Blu-Ray is meaningless to me.
It's not apple's responsibility to program OS X to work with other hardware. It's the hardware vendor's responsibility to code the drivers for OS X so that their hardware can work properly. However, developing for Windows is much easier since there is a larger amount of support available etc.
These ads are getting better and better and it shows by the irrational and somewhat ridiculous reactions to them. I prefer Macs but I dont worship them. While they are my preferred computing tool, I understand their limitations and shortcomings.
I use windows through VMware everyday and I never encounter the embellished issues the posters here claim to torment their users. I feel like people join the MR and feel obligated to bash windows or dell to assimilate and be accepted. I know the OS has its issues but so does every other OS.
I too believe Apple pricing is sometimes absurd. I can't blame Apple because they are charging what the market will bear. But when budgets get tighter, buyers are more prone to compare specs. MS is betting that the economy makes a huge difference in purchasing decisions and the ads are spot. If these ads permeate parents minds, you may very well see a decline in the back to school sales who knows.
P.S. Can we please C&D with the ridiculous car analogies. They hold no water. No Apple is not a BMW or boutique exotic manufacturer. A plastic macbook is nothing special and certainly not even the 3 or C class of the computer industry.
I use windows through VMware everyday and I never encounter the embellished issues the posters here claim to torment their users. I feel like people join the MR and feel obligated to bash windows or dell to assimilate and be accepted. I know the OS has its issues but so does every other OS.
I too believe Apple pricing is sometimes absurd. I can't blame Apple because they are charging what the market will bear. But when budgets get tighter, buyers are more prone to compare specs. MS is betting that the economy makes a huge difference in purchasing decisions and the ads are spot. If these ads permeate parents minds, you may very well see a decline in the back to school sales who knows.
P.S. Can we please C&D with the ridiculous car analogies. They hold no water. No Apple is not a BMW or boutique exotic manufacturer. A plastic macbook is nothing special and certainly not even the 3 or C class of the computer industry.
Good for them.
I bought a MBP, I would buy another one.
People who have the money buy them
I could give two ****s that I can get a same spec machine for less.
It has a remote built in and it has a million lights telling you stuff!!1111 I dont care!!!!!!
If I walked into a uni with a macbook pro and the same spec dell (which when I bought his in sept 2007 was £287 IIRC (15% cheaper) I think everyone would want the apple...
OS X and the build quality is why I buy a mac. I have NEVER seen a case as well made as my mac pro, even the Lian Li's i've had dont come close.
same argument as the post above
rich people dont always buy macs if they know anything about computers
and oh yeah in the eyes of an apple fan, there is only dell to compare LOL
seriously do you people even have a CLUE about what other manufactures are out there? do you realise your macbookpro is made by Hon Hai?
Even if the current hardware can't handle it now, you can upgrade the Apple way later on. You just pick up your system, throw it away and buy a whole new one. Now that's convenience.
But we still haven't answered the question of whether the current hardware can handle it or not.
Please enlighten me, what is this "blurary uncompressed format" you speak of? All the info I've ever seen about bluray says it uses compressed video. Sure, the AUDIO is uncompressed, but playing that back is easy peasy. So a link talking about "blurary uncompressed format" please?
I'm happy to try it, that's why I keep asking if there is any media available at that rate. So what is your source that says that no mac can play it? Or have you actually tried it on the latest, fastest mac?
And how exactly do you know it can only be done with GPU decoding?
apple will not let you boot off the install disc on a non mac, apple simply wont let you install their Os on any other HW.
Because TV's may have an overscan, you have to adjust it via driver configuration. Same has to be done for Mac.
The home theater experience on Windows is googleplex times better than mac/osx. This is due to synergy from all the devices working together (a real 5.1 audio system, X-FI crsytallizer, hdmi projector, windows media center, multiple tv tuners)...something not possible on a mac. Mac audio is laughable.
You can connect your mac to a TV but:
- Can it connect a X-FI crystallizer? No. Anything else other than X-FI is a joke.
- Can it connect multiple TV Tuners? No
- Does it have ONE seamless intergration software to manage radio, music, recordings, tv, tv guide, games all with a remote? No
- Does it support Logitech Harmony (home theatre elite standard)? No. The Front Row remote is laughable.
Also, you need a big USB hub if you want to connect all these devices to a mac due to the lack of USB ports.
Also btw, Windows supports 3-D Gaming RIGHT NOW. You can buy a 3D monitor and a 3D enabled game like TF2 and play it on Windows on a 52" LCD screen. Not possible with mac.
Yeah, it's also not a $1500 set-up. That's a custom build machine right? I could have a macbook and still spend the dough on one of these set-ups on a windows machine.
What's the point of telling us about this set-up? It has nothing to do with Mac's being overpriced. I would love to hear how much that set-up cost that you just described.
Nothing wrong with the optical output of my mini. It puts out 5.1 just as well as any other HTPC.
I don't think anyone would argue that Windows based laptops and desktops can be more versatile than Macs. I would argue, however, there is really only a small sect of people who clamor for the features that cannot be had on a Mac. I liken the ability to be able to play a bluray on my PC with being able to play it on a PS3. I don't care if I can play a bluray on my video game system, which is why I still have a PS2....simply put I am not going to pay for something I don't need. In the same light, I don't care if my PC can play a bluray movie. If I wanted to watch bluray I would hook a stand alone player up to a nice 50 inch LCD for an optimal experience. From a practical standpoint, in the rare instance that I do watch a movie on my PC it is usually in a compressed avi format, which I personally find more than adequate for most occasions including burn to DVD and watch in a full size TV. Again, I am not debating the fact that one can obtain a Windows PC with more features because that is true, I am however debating the actual utility those features provide the masses which may be one reason Apple is not adapting.
the 0.4lbs more than the macbookpro is going to what? break your back? kill you? rape your mother? bbq your dog? what is that going to do thats SO BAD?
$150? where did you get that from? LED's cost almost nothing to manufacture. even a 5W Cree LED (or a luxeon) only costs $3 RETAIL price and a 5W cree will be too damn bright and you wont be able to see anything
yeah an not having the memory controller built into the CPU running at the CPU's speed is going to waste a good stick of DDR3, the mac ram is just as crappy.
you can still see a diffrence between blueray and DVD even on a 720p display, ive seen it first hand with irobot, for example, people's skin in the movie on DVD you cannot see textures just the generic color, with bluray you can actaully see the pours in his skin.
It's actually over $2000 with the Z-5500 and X-FI included. Don't forget the stylish Di Novo Edge and Logitech Harmony. It connects to a $3500 HDMI 1080 Projector. You won't have enough money after buying the macbook. I laugh when Mac users say they have the awesome home theatre experience with OS X.
Who ever said they aren't allowed to mock them? It was just pointed out that it is odd to see a company with 90% market share putting this much effort into going after the company with less than 10%.
When was the last time you heard a Coca-cola add that went after RC?
Nobody said you were. If you spent that much, then you're obviously not the market these ads are aimed at.
It out puts just 5.1. Yawn Boring.
You have to try the X-FI Crystallizer to realize what it is. It boosts audio quality in a way that it fills the room and enriches it. It makes music "refreshing" to hear. It's hard to describe it. Don't mistake the crystallizer for a EQ balancer. It's not. Again, you have to try it to believe it.
The macbook uses external DAC to achieve 5.1. Macbook's audio component is no match for the X-FI and unless you have $2000 speaker system, the speaker system's DAC is no match for the X-FI either. Even the Z-5500 built-in DAC cannot compare to the X-FI. The Crsytallizer function beats it.
vista IS more reliable when it tells you WTF is going on
you tell me whats wrong with the computer based on these 2 error messages
right away with the bluescreen and 2 seconds of google, its my SATA/Raid drivers (which is easy to fix)
Where is the 1080p 5.1 uncompressed you talk about? (none of those content providers even have 1080p) Are you going to keep regurgitating crap?
Even if I agree with whitefang and use a PC as a home theater multimedia center, I will still be using OS X on my primary computer over Vista.
No matter how good a movie experience is on a PC, I'll still use OS X until something better for COMPUTING comes along.
No matter how good a movie experience is on a PC, I'll still use OS X until something better for COMPUTING comes along.