You are gonna break a lot of hearts with what you just said. I only mentioned SD slot and USB and a few people lost their minds.
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You are gonna break a lot of hearts with what you just said. I only mentioned SD slot and USB and a few people lost their minds.
I feel more ram would be beneficial for jailbreak related items. 64 bit processor will optimize the way processes are handled. RAM is only good for buffering and multitasking. That being said I am not sure which iPad you have, however someone has to lead the charge. I feel we will see faster speeds on higher processing items (gaming, editing) not sure about lower processing.
As an owner of a Surface Pro, and someone whose fiancée is an illustrator who uses a Surface Pro in her daily work because iPad *cannot* do the job Surface Pro does, I genuinely doubt you have ever even held a Surface Pro, much less own one.
Hey, you want an iPad 3 in near perfect condition? I'll even throw in the smartcover.
No I want a iPad 5
thanks though----------
I am typing on one right now.
I bought it very shortly after launch I was highly anticipating it. But the 2 in 1 laptop/tablet is not for me. other people maybe. but I used my surface pro as an ultrabook 99%, and never touched the screen or used the camera capabilities, so it wasn't the right device for me. Also, I am dying to go back to using Mac OS. So I am getting a rMBP
Seriously
The Surface is gooood, I tested it and it was superior than the iPad in many things.
But the huge flaw was the TV spots... they showed people dancing and never showed the functionality of the product. I mean, it was like a musical but you never saw the screen of the tablet!
You never saw the Surface actually working until 4 months after its release, by then the rush was gone. The iPad was always about functionality since day one and that is what people have recorded in their mind, not people dancing like apes.
The Surface is gooood, I tested it and it was superior than the iPad in many things.
But the huge flaw was the TV spots... they showed people dancing and never showed the functionality of the product. I mean, it was like a musical but you never saw the screen of the tablet!
You never saw the Surface actually working until 4 months after its release, by then the rush was gone. The iPad was always about functionality since day one and that is what people have recorded in their mind, not people dancing like apes.
Well, my intention isn't to break hearts, but to inform from experience. iPad is all well and good for consumption of media, playing basic games and such, but there aren't a lot of real work-use cases for it per se that can't be done just as well by any other tablet, whether Android or Windows. Right now, the iPad's sole advantage is that it has a more mature app ecosystem--that's really all it has. That's important, let's not pretend it isn't, but it's also a temporary advantage. Windows--and I mean full Windows, not RT--has the largest software library of any platform in the world. Couple its back catalog of powerful, classic apps, not one of which can the iPad's hardware handle even if the OS could, with the new Modern UI app store that's growing faster than the iPad store is, and the emerging story is pretty clear: the iPad's days of dominance are coming to an end. Android has already destroyed its position of market leadership by offering "good enough" tablets that are cheap, and now here come tablets that run a full blown OS, get as good or nearly as good of battery life as an iPad, and are going to start hitting at $199 and up this fall.
Personally, I think the choice is very clear: MS, who, let's be honest, have made a LOT of mistakes on the leadup to the present situation, can *afford* to have made mistakes. They just bought Nokia's devices and services division and licensed a bunch of patents for $7,000,000,000 *cash* and they still have another 70 billion in the bank, with many billions more earned each and every quarter. They could stop making profit *today*, screw up for the next 30 years and still not go out of business. Anyone who thinks the iPad is going to destroy the empire that Windows built simply hasn't looked at the landscape. Microsoft, whatever else is true about their faults, play the long game better than anyone, and they have for decades.
Their bet with Windows 8 is that the tablet form factor is the future of computing, hedged with the recognition that big changes in the market don't happen overnight and that you can't force business and consumer culture to drop everything they've been investing in for years and do the new thing. That's why it works on the future of devices (tablets) and on desktops and laptops. And the model is especially good for laptop hybrids that are tablet when you need them to be and laptop when you need them to be that instead. Nobody else has an OS that bridges that gap--not Apple, not Android, not Linux, not Chrome OS--nobody.
Not necessarily. At lower levels, 64-bit offers, at most, a 15% performance advantage over 32-bit while consuming a bit more ram to do the same job. The only real bonus I could see for it would be for low level security improvements, for things like ALSR and the like.
On the other hand, more ram would allow developers to make better apps. Content creation apps like PS Touch would be able to handle larger resolution images, allow for more layers, and give you higher amounts of undo steps. Games could be more expansive and look better due to having more memory to work with for particle effects and texture resolution. You could actually open up more than 3 tabs in Safari without it having to reload pages when you flip back through them. Ram is one of those neat things you can never have enough of, and improves the user experience the moment you add more in.
Of course I don't expect Apple to add in 8GB for the next iPad release. They need to balance performance with battery life. But every day that passes, the piddly 1GB they've currently got in the iDevices becomes more and more a bottleneck the more complicated mobile apps become.
And really, what's the point of having an ultra nice, speedy CPU if it doesn't have the memory space to perform to its full potential? It's like having a car with a V10 engine, but the governor installed on it doesn't allow you to take over 55MPH.
Rare is not common
The incredible success of Apple was caused by several seemingly revolutionary products. But they all came about through the hard work, and invention of evolutionary products, by Apple and by others. It was a long haul for Apple and others. Apple made it seem easy and magical, but it was decades inventing and bringing together technologies. The next revolutionary product will likely require additional evolution before the pieces can be put together in non-obvious ways. Magic takes work.
1) Most people don't buy a car every year
2) We aren't talking about cars
My logic would makes more sense if you knew the above.
The incredible success of Apple was caused by several seemingly revolutionary products. But they all came about through the hard work, and invention of evolutionary products, by Apple and by others. It was a long haul for Apple and others. Apple made it seem easy and magical, but it was decades inventing and bringing together technologies. The next revolutionary product will likely require additional evolution before the pieces can be put together in non-obvious ways. Magic takes work.
That's the thing, by worrying about jailbreaking, it makes the device more clunky. More RAM would be great because you could multitask better, or run apps without lagging or reduce the amount of time the app crashes. The 64bit processor will be great for Apple to really compete with Nintendo and Sony's hand held game market, but that's for uni-tasking. For the iPad to be more versatile, it needs to be better at multitasking.
Agreed! The dancing commercials were, in a phrase, DUMB AS HELL. What were they thinking?
But the commercials where they use Siri as their bitch to show all the things Windows tablets can do that iPads can't do are brilliant
.Fair argument. I wouldn't mind seeing 2. Not sure why they wouldn't. I imagine its due to the design of the circuit board
You clearly haven't seen Microsoft's financial reports lately, then. They are doing VERY well. Notice how they just paid cash to buy out Nokia's devices and services division and still have over 70 billion dollars in the bank? Yeah--they're not hurting for profit.
Truth be told, the iPhone doesn't need more than 1GB. Besides games, which are the only exception, you're never going to be doing anything so heavy on it that you absolutely need more memory. It wouldn't hurt having more, but it's not what I'd call a necessity.
The iPad is a different story entirely. It's slowly coming to the point where people are starting to expect tablets to do what their old laptops did in a different form factor. For it, the more ram you have, the more it's capable of doing.
As for why Apple hasn't added in more yet, I'd guess it's mostly due to cost and battery concerns. It's something they might have to bite the bullet on though, cuz MS, Samsung, Asus, or Google is in a position to take the high end tablet market away from them if they don't move forward fast enough.
Microsoft just doesn't get it, it's sad
The surface is a laptop with less features and no good keyboard, and it's almost as thick as a full ultrabook, so WHAT'S THE POINT?
The thing they don't get is that the iPad doesn't try to be a laptop, but rather an ipad! A touchscreen book with cook apps that are not limited with all the bagage of the operating system.
- it doesnt need a usb port, since EVERYTHING is wireless now, just like i didnt care the macbook air in 2008 didnt have a DVD since the last time i used one was in 2005
-also the goal of the ipad is to be sIMPLE, no gizmos, no keyboard, no extras, no usb, no headbreaking for forgetting stuff home, no external dvd or hdd: it is a PLEASURE, fun device that you just want to use and have fun, not worry about anything.
- If you need functionality, get a laptop! A macbook air 11" is the same size and fully capable, or any windows ultrabook
Perfection is achieved when you've run out of things you can remove. That's the essence of simplicity. It's amazing that a large corporation with thousands of employees dont get it. NO ONE gets it in all those ppl? Humanity is screwed.
The surface is a laptop with less features and no good keyboard, and it's almost as thick as a full ultrabook, so WHAT'S THE POINT?
The thing they don't get is that the iPad doesn't try to be a laptop, but rather an ipad! A touchscreen book with cook apps that are not limited with all the bagage of the operating system.
- it doesnt need a usb port, since EVERYTHING is wireless now, just like i didnt care the macbook air in 2008 didnt have a DVD since the last time i used one was in 2005
-also the goal of the ipad is to be sIMPLE, no gizmos, no keyboard, no extras, no usb, no headbreaking for forgetting stuff home, no external dvd or hdd: it is a PLEASURE, fun device that you just want to use and have fun, not worry about anything.
- If you need functionality, get a laptop! A macbook air 11" is the same size and fully capable, or any windows ultrabook
Perfection is achieved when you've run out of things you can remove. That's the essence of simplicity. It's amazing that a large corporation with thousands of employees dont get it. NO ONE gets it in all those ppl? Humanity is screwed.
Yeah they are still making a ton of money from enterprise and established business software such as Office and Server operating systems. But they are scrambling for relevance in the new mobile computing era and so far making nothing more than the tiniest dent.
Android started out with the tiniest dent, then we all teased them around here for giving away galaxy tabs with the purchase of a samsung tv, and while they're still not where the ipad is, they're certainly a force to be reckoned with.
Microsoft isn't asking to trade in losers, the only want to take in winners so they can put their loser on the street. This has got to be the most inane and totally embarrassing thing they've ever done. This HAD to come from the final efforts of that idiot CEO Emballmer.
1) Most people don't buy a car every year
2) We aren't talking about cars
My logic would makes more sense if you knew the above.
seriously, i cant believe someone hasnt called you out on thi. Ice cream bars?? really? people buy more than one a year because they EAT them and then poop them out there @sses!!! you cant do anything to it once that happens! do you eat ipads?? worst analogy ever.
Trouble is Microsoft isn't just starting out in mobile. They've been failing badly since 2010 with Windows Phone 7. Since then we've had 7.5, 7.8, 8 with 8.1 soon to follow. Their tablet strategy is following a very similar trajectory to the phone business only this time they've also put their name on devices that aren't selling.
