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Microsoft Says New Surface Pro is 1.7× Faster Than iPad Pro With 35% More Battery Life
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Never understood this myself. I have a MacBook and it is extremely capable while being thin and light. It's a very portable machine. If you want a laptop, buy a laptop. If you want an iPad, buy an iPad.
Well, the A9X is a highly specialized version of the A9 with apretty great RAM-interface.
An its at least 18 months old.
maybe if the main use of the laptop is checking emails and light documents editing....
The pen is no longer bundled with the new Surface Pro. It's a separate $99 purchase. Looks like Microsoft learned something from Apple. I wonder if it'll be able to draw straight diagonal lines this time around. That's far more important to me than 4096 levels of pressure sensitivity. I don't even know how many levels of pressure sensitivity my Apple Pencil has. I just know that it feels miles better than the Surface pen that I tried.
13 hours of Microsoft claimed battery life is going to translate into... I'm guessing 7 hours of normal use at best, which is actually not bad for such a compact Windows machine, but still less than the iPad Pro.
It's lighter but still somewhat heavier than the 12.9" iPad Pro which is already on the heavy side. That's fine for a laptop, but not so great for a tablet.
From what I've been able to dig up, the I5 version is using a 15 watt TDP CPU. Surely that's going to throttle in a bad way without a fan?!? I guess we will see people employ the Surface Pro 3 trick of using a USB fan to blow air across the back of the device. On the positive side, we won't hear all those horror stories from people having their Surface Pro turning into a hairdryer at an important meeting because Windows decided it was time to update.
To be honest, this is just another incremental upgrade that Microsoft is trying to turn into a bigger deal than it is. It's not really going to change anything. It'll still be a decent, if overpriced, ultraportable laptop and a very mediocre tablet. I still find the Macbook + iPad combo to be a much better experience, but some people obviously prefer the 'one device to rule them all' approach.
13 hours of Microsoft claimed battery life is going to translate into... I'm guessing 7 hours of normal use at best, which is actually not bad for such a compact Windows machine, but still less than the iPad Pro.
It's lighter but still somewhat heavier than the 12.9" iPad Pro which is already on the heavy side. That's fine for a laptop, but not so great for a tablet.
From what I've been able to dig up, the I5 version is using a 15 watt TDP CPU. Surely that's going to throttle in a bad way without a fan?!? I guess we will see people employ the Surface Pro 3 trick of using a USB fan to blow air across the back of the device. On the positive side, we won't hear all those horror stories from people having their Surface Pro turning into a hairdryer at an important meeting because Windows decided it was time to update.
To be honest, this is just another incremental upgrade that Microsoft is trying to turn into a bigger deal than it is. It's not really going to change anything. It'll still be a decent, if overpriced, ultraportable laptop and a very mediocre tablet. I still find the Macbook + iPad combo to be a much better experience, but some people obviously prefer the 'one device to rule them all' approach.
I think the Anniversary Update causes issues for a lot of users. I think Windows 10 is stable for the most part, though. It is the standard OS for my current employer and some of our clients without issues.
So buy a product that suits your needs. Ipad is super light, super intuitive thin client. It doesn't do much--but it does it well. I still can't figure out why people buy products they can't use: didn't you research the ipad at all?
Or any of the other many things that have been brought to your attention already in this thread. You are either not all there or very ill-informed if you think your mindset when it comes to the use of a computer is the end all, be all. Many people use computing devices for many different things. Many of those things can easily be handled on an iPad, many cannot. That doesn't make it any less of a device.
Compared to the rumored 10.5 iPad pro, the surface feels like a pro tool, and the iPad like a gadget.
Sold my 12.9 iPad pro two months ago. It just collected dust.
Sold my 12.9 iPad pro two months ago. It just collected dust.
nice to have a real tablet option over a blown up iphone. the surface is an awesome tablet replacement where the ipad is a better cruising the internet and reading facebook device. much rather have windows as well. i despise mac os
Yes, it was my fault for doing such a comparison.
In fact, comparing two different machine is especially tough. There are too many component to be compared with and CPU, GPU, RAM, SSD aren't everything. We would still have to account for the ports and other hardware. For example, the MBP has higher PPI, faster ports, Bluetooth 4.2. However the MBP is also heavier than the Surface Laptop and the Surface Laptop has a touchscreen
I like both devices quite a bit, although I chose to purchase the iPad Pro.
My question for you is, why are you on a MacRumors site if you despise Macs? That seems odd to me.
Interesting that Microsoft chose not to include the Surface Pen in this iteration of the Surface Pro line. I originally thought it was just the m3 that didn't include it as before. Not the case.
Definitely. A lot also comes down to user preference. Having seen the Surface Laptop, the keyboard is also so much better than the MacBook Pro. I completely despise the new keyboards on the MB/MBP, especially coming from a MacBook Air. Of course, some users really like the feel. The little things that add up as well, like the 3:2 display, fabric around the keyboard and the Surface Connector which uses a MagSafe like approach to magnetically hold in the charger.
This is an excellent device. I will definitely consider upgrading from the Surface Pro 4 given the improvements to the battery life. That has been the single complaint about the Surface from me. If it has been truly addressed, it will make the Surface a near perfect laptop/tablet device.
I do admit MiIcrosoft are making nice products these days. But bragging about being 1.7 faster than a product that is almost 2 years old, well, that's not much to talk about IMO. If apple feel they should or meet any competition, they will release a new iPad Pro thats 1.7 faster than the Surface Pro as well.
It's also not much of a tablet as Window Store eco system for apps is terrible, of course with Windows S now that could change, thou i doubt it and it would be hard pressed to ever come close to the quality and quanity of IOS apps
I tried windows 10 and love it. But can't use it because I refuse to have something that upgrades itself without my say so. Neighbors machine is unusable until Windows 8 is reloaded as the network card is not compatible with 10. I run a security system that can't be installing/downloading all the time. Nope. Not going there.
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The 1.7x compute claim is extremely vague, even for Microsoft. The iPad Pro runs iOS, which has little to no desktop class applications to compete.
Where did you see that the Surface Pro has struggled with sales? Sure profit dropped last quarter but that's largely due to a lack of updates, not their product strategy.
10 Hours doing what? My Surface Pro 4 won't last 10 hours with the brightness crippled to "barely legible" and the wifi off. It's a little over 100 days old.