Microsoft Set to Demonstrate Windows Mobile 7 Next Week

[2iphonefangirls]

the lay of the land

Please Mr. Ballmer, just give up.

I wish Ballmer would retire.

Re: Windows Phone
It is a new OS. It's not borrowed from Apple, but then not much is really "original" thought in the iPhone either. Even the name iPhone was licensed from Cisco.

The phone is said to be quicker than the 3gs iphone and even the 4g. Plus, it is multi-touch capacitive. Overall, it is a more integrated and better experience than the next generation iPhone. One thing for sure they are not locked into the same crappy AT&T network like us.

Multitasking? I understand that it will accept push technology and pause v. run in the background. That's a better design. Why? Because an app with a memory leak can drain a battery faster than a storm drain in a monsoon. And we all know how well our iPhone batteries last, which is why I have 2 iPhones.

Browsing is supposed to be more integrated along with the zune, xbox, twit stuff too. Apparently iPhones are considering using Bing. Did you know that?

The cons? No apps, well not yet anyway. MS has billions of money to give away to developers. They are standardizing their platform to allow for it.

 

[arkmannj]

Why? Windows 7 is a hit. Why can't Windows Mobile 7? Face it, more people use Windows than Macs still so not everybody hates Microsoft.

Most just go with the statues-quot and don't know better/different.

Just kidding, no one get all worked up, I'm just having some fun.

 

[Tones2]

All of you Apple fanboys on this site really crack me up. I love reading through these threads. I can name about 100 thing Windows Mobile 6.5 can do that iPhone O/S 3.1.2 cannot and only one (admitedly big) thing that Windows Mobile can't do that the iPhone O/S can (multitouch). And Windows Mobile 7 will probably take care of that one.

Take off your blinders!

Tony

 

[2iphonefangirls]

All of you Apple fanboys on this site really crack me up. I love reading through these threads. I can name about 100 thing Windows Mobile 6.5 can do that iPhone O/S 3.1.2 cannot and only one (admitedly big) thing that Windows Mobile can't do that the iPhone O/S can (multitouch). And Windows Mobile 7 will probably take care of that one.

Take off your blinders!

Tony

it will multi-touch

 

[aucl]

While the success of Windows 7 will depend mostly on consumers, …
the question how good it actually is depends only on how much they managed to copy from others.

 

[hugodrax]

I know this'll be a double edged sword. On the one hand, it'll make writing software easier since developers wouldn't have to handle every bit of hardware out there.

On the other hand, having choices is good. Each situation is different and might need different stuff. How different, I can't say. This'll be interesting to see.

But all this choice does not seem to be doing microsoft so well.

 

[tkermit]

I can name about 100 thing Windows Mobile 6.5 can do that iPhone O/S 3.1.2 cannot

Sure...But how does it do these things ? It's all about the execution.

 

[John Kotches]

All of you Apple fanboys on this site really crack me up. I love reading through these threads. I can name about 100 thing Windows Mobile 6.5 can do that iPhone O/S 3.1.2 cannot and only one (admitedly big) thing that Windows Mobile can't do that the iPhone O/S can (multitouch). And Windows Mobile 7 will probably take care of that one.

Take off your blinders!

Tony

I'm on my 2nd Windows Mobile phone (5 (palm treo) and 6 (HTC Touch Diamond)).

They are terrible for a UI.

Unless MS totally rethinks the UI, they will continue to lose marketshare to Apple and increasingly Google (via all the android phones).

IMO, and it's just an opinion, MS has lost their opportunity to dominate the smartphone market. It was there's to lose, and they have.

 

[2iphonefangirls]

While the success of Windows 7 will depend mostly on consumers, …
the question how good it actually is depends only on how much they managed to copy from others.

no copying . . . I like I stated, there's not much original thought out there anyway.

 

[iWoz]

Looking forward to seeing this...

 

[killmoms]

Let's keep in mind that "later this year" means "the Fall." The first Windows Mobile 7 "Windows Phones" aren't supposed to debut until the September - November timeframe, well after the likely summer iPhone hardware and software updates.

The problem with Microsoft in this space (Zune, Windows Phone, etc.) is that they are continually playing catch up and shooting too late. They aim for where Apple is, but ship when Apple's already moved forward. Sure, the platform they've specified looks nice now, when Apple hasn't released new hardware... but if you think Apple's going to just put out another 3GS in the summer you're crazy. Apple's not standing still either—they just don't telegraph their plans 8 months in advance.

 

[2iphonefangirls]

I'm on my 2nd Windows Mobile phone (5 (palm treo) and 6 (HTC Touch Diamond)).

They are terrible for a UI.

Unless MS totally rethinks the UI, they will continue to lose marketshare to Apple and increasingly Google (via all the android phones).

IMO, and it's just an opinion, MS has lost their opportunity to dominate the smartphone market. It was there's to lose, and they have.

I believe that the is rethought, and don't count them out. They have $ to throw away. Think "Internet Explorer" v. Netscape. How many people use Netscape today?

 

[Hankus]

They should endeavour to raise the bar, not move it forward.

 

[Hankus]

All of you Apple fanboys on this site really crack me up. I love reading through these threads. I can name about 100 thing Windows Mobile 6.5 can do that iPhone O/S 3.1.2 cannot and only one (admitedly big) thing that Windows Mobile can't do that the iPhone O/S can (multitouch). And Windows Mobile 7 will probably take care of that one.

Take off your blinders!

Tony

It doesn't matter how much it can "do" if nobody wants to use it.

 

[inlovewithi]

You know the thing I love about Apple's OS's is that they get out of your way, I mean they are there, and you are constantly using it, but you're usually not having to think about it. You just do what you need to do and it's pretty much stays out of the way. (how an OS should be for the most part)

All of Microsoft's OS's and RIM's Blackberries have always have this "in my face" feeling. I'm having a hard time explaining this (sorry lack of sleep) but Mac OS I don't think about the fact that I'm on a Mac, on Windows and other OS's I'm constantly reminded that I'm on them. sometimes it's pop-up messages, reminders, etc. other times it's unnecessarily complicated settings, burried features, unnecessary confirmations, etc. (heavens my work Blackberry sucks on all of those points)

anyhow, I'll be interested to see how their new mobile OS turns out but I'm not holding my breath.

That's because your brain is hardwired to Apple's OS. I always tell people this, if you grew up using OSX, then you're going to feel lost in Windows, and if you grew up using Windows, then you're going to feel lost in OSX. Unless all the person does is simple things, like browsing the internet. I feel crippled when running OSx, while in Windows I can do pretty much what I want without thinking about it. If people complained because Microsoft moved certain little things in Vista forcing them to change, imagine those people trying OSx.

 

[2iphonefangirls]

Let's keep in mind that "later this year" means "the Fall." The first Windows Mobile 7 "Windows Phones" aren't supposed to debut until the September - November timeframe, well after the likely summer iPhone hardware and software updates.

The problem with Microsoft in this space (Zune, Windows Phone, etc.) is that they are continually playing catch up and shooting too late. They aim for where Apple is, but ship when Apple's already moved forward. Sure, the platform they've specified looks nice now, when Apple hasn't released new hardware... but if you think Apple's going to just put out another 3GS in the summer you're crazy. Apple's not standing still either—they just don't telegraph their plans 8 months in advance.

Yep. They will not release until Sep2010, correct. Keep in mind that it is meant to compete against the 4G iPhone and the "summer iPhone hardware and software updates . . . " won't help the iPhone get over AT&T.

 

[dsnort]

That's because your brain is hardwired to Apple's OS. I always tell people this, if you grew up using OSX, then you're going to feel lost in Windows, and if you grew up using Windows, then you're going to feel lost in OSX. Unless all the person does is simple things, like browsing the internet. I feel crippled when running OSx, while in Windows I can do pretty much what I want without thinking about it. If people complained because Microsoft moved certain little things in Vista forcing them to change, imagine those people trying OSx.

I grew up with Windows, (as in started with DOS, then 3.0, '95, '98, NT4.0, XP ). Never owned a Mac until 4 years ago, Took me a week to get used to Mac OSX. Still consider the switch one of the best decisions of my life.

 

[brendu]

whooooo cares!?

 

[bcb23]

It has been a while since I had a windows mobile phone (Motorola 220mpx I think it was...) I hope the new platform is amazing. Competition can only benefit the consumers and hopefully they will pressure Apple and BB to also move (raise) the bar forward... Course for me, since I cannot stand AT&T I cannot get the iPhone, so it is relatively a moot point for me.

 

[currentinterest]

I saw early versions of this new Win Mobile OS and it looks pretty good. It is not 6.5. On the other hand it will look much like an iPhone catch-up with some nice features. Come iPhone OS 4.0 though it will likely not be competitive.

 

[2iphonefangirls]

I grew up with Windows, (as in started with DOS, then 3.0, '95, '98, NT4.0, XP ). Never owned a Mac until 4 years ago, Took me a week to get used to Mac OSX. Still consider the switch one of the best decisions of my life.

I grew up on FORTRANIV . . . . So, any OS is all the same to me. Es macht nichts. Trust me, nothing much has changed in decades at the code level, when you get down to the binaries. Learning one v. another is simply a different syntax. It's like German v. English. Same content different sound. Is one better than another? No. Only different.

I suppose that it gets down to the user. If the user is inept and totally lame, well then maybe they should not have a smartphone or any technology? Nothing's perfect, only different. One thing for sure . . . it will continue to change.

 

[lyzardking]

Think "Internet Explorer" v. Netscape. How many people use Netscape today?

throwing money at something doesn't always work....

Zune, 360 (admittedly the 360 is making money now, but how long did that take?)

Don't get me wrong, I think it's good they're giving it a go. Competition is a good thing, it's makes everyone better.

 

[2iphonefangirls]

throwing money at something doesn't always work....

Zune, 360 (admittedly the 360 is making money now, but how long did that take?)

Don't get me wrong, I think it's good they're giving it a go. Competition is a good thing, it's makes everyone better.

Agreed.

The big negative for the Windows Phone is the lack of any apps. I think that it will be equal to the iPhone and better than the Android. Competition is a good thing.

Speaking of competition . . . how the hell do we get rid of the iPhone being stuck on AT&T? That will definitely hurt Apple long term.

 

[jupp0r]

Competition

I'd really like to see Microsoft getting into the market again, because it would then force Apple to create some more innovation themselves. I mean I love my iPhone, but it's not where it could be: for example I'd really like to see a IM application integrated into the OS that has a special status and always runs in the background. Also video telephony is perfectly possible right now technically, why didn't Apple implement it yet?

The new features introduced in each new iPhone generation have been really minor: voice control, MMS, video recording, ... so what? That's not redefining how I interact with people using my phone. Switching from those horrible SMS to Jabber/ICQ/GTalk would be, more so video telephony.

Apple has been producing the best phones for too long now, they ceased to come up with real innovation imho. They still got the best smart phone, but I hope that will change so they're forced to come up with something better still!

 

[alent1234]

after the iPad i had high hopes for WinMo 7, but i read the rumored specs a week or two ago. Unless something new is said about it, i'm staying with the iphone