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Microsoft Set to Demonstrate Windows Mobile 7 Next Week

inlovewithi said:
That's because your brain is hardwired to Apple's OS. I always tell people this, if you grew up using OSX, then you're going to feel lost in Windows, and if you grew up using Windows, then you're going to feel lost in OSX. Unless all the person does is simple things, like browsing the internet. I feel crippled when running OSx, while in Windows I can do pretty much what I want without thinking about it. If people complained because Microsoft moved certain little things in Vista forcing them to change, imagine those people trying OSx.
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I grew up with Dos (started with ver 5.0) Windows (started with windows 2, 3, 3.1 3.11, 95 NT, etc...) and Apple IIe, then eventually I played with Macs when I got into school, Also I've got Microsoft certifications yadda yadda yadda, and am a Systems Admin for alot of MS Servers (2000 - 2008r2) MS SQL DBA (MS SQL is actually a product I really like of Microsofts BTW) I jump on board for Microsoft Beta's, a part of Tech Net, etc...

at home I have Mac's, Windows PC's (various versions, all legal), Linux Machines, even Novell Netware, and VM's of other OS's

So it's not about me being hardwired for one way or another, it's just that Windows and some others tend to be annoying and in my face all the time when using them.

I agree with your general philosophy that what you are saying may be true of a lot of folks, just being used to what ever they have been using. But in my case it's not true.

Also, I've done some not entirely scientific tests, handing friends/family (most not mac/apple users BTW) ipods, zunes, iphones, Blackberry devices, etc. and asked them to perform various tasks. Without a doubt the vast majority were able to complete the tasks faster and with less frustration on the Apple devices.

BTW anyone else remember an old DOS menu app called "Doors" ? I loved that thing, being a little kid and had so many dos batch files tied to it, QBasic scripts/games I made. :)
 
It will be another fail for MS as most of their stuff usually is, or this will be just more padded fluff like Windows 7, fooling the public to think its something WOW, when it's really, "Wow, is that all"?
 
What I find interesting about this discussion is how it makes it obvious that the game has changed. Three years ago, would MS ever have had the audacity to attempt a tighter hardware/software integration (which basically would mean dictating to cell providers what type of phone to use)? Apple once again has re-arranged an entire industry with a single product.
 
I'm sorry for the effort to place this article on the front page but it is of no interest or consequence to me. I'm not interested in MS phone software. I'll stick to my iPhone. I've had a string of other phones through the years, of all the big brands and also an iPaq but the iPhone gives me ease of use, less clutter and more functionality.
 
arkmannj said:
Most just go with the statues-quot and don't know better/different.

Just kidding, no one get all worked up, I'm just having some fun.
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Right. You don't think people don't want to pay more when they get the same experience?
 
Tones2 said:
All of you Apple fanboys on this site really crack me up. I love reading through these threads. I can name about 100 thing Windows Mobile 6.5 can do that iPhone O/S 3.1.2 cannot and only one (admitedly big) thing that Windows Mobile can't do that the iPhone O/S can (multitouch). And Windows Mobile 7 will probably take care of that one.
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You seem to be running under the assumption that being able to do more and more things in a personal mobile platform will always result in increasing market share, higher user satisfaction, and an increasing number of developers. And doing less, removing "features", will always result in the opposite.

I suggest you examine the actual facts regarding current Windows Mobile sales, user satisfaction stats, and percentage of developers working on that platform, versus iPhoneOS and Android.
 
firewood said:
You seem to be running under the assumption that being able to do more and more things in a personal mobile platform will always result in increasing market share, higher user satisfaction, and an increasing number of developers. And doing less, removing "features", will always result in the opposite.

I suggest you examine the actual facts regarding current Windows Mobile sales, user satisfaction stats, and percentage of developers working on that platform, versus iPhoneOS and Android.
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Ok - show me those stats.:rolleyes:

Tony
 
Diseal3 said:
Good stuff, hopefully revamped and ready to compete with android and apple.
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Ha ha! MS doesn't make a phone so they won't be competing with Apple on s***. 3rd party hardware folks will sport Win Mobile 7 just to get their sells up. That is what it all about. Apple is in another league. And Apple has the bloodline that affords it the privilege of releasing just 1 phone a year. A very sustaining business model. Boooya!!!!!!!!
 
dwd3885 said:
Right. You don't think people don't want to pay more when they get the same experience?
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lighten up it was a joke (hence the grey taxt at the bottom saying so)

Just so I make sure I'm understanding you and responding to what you actually intended to say, did you mean:

dwd3885 said:
Right. You think people want to pay more when they get the same experience?
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(Double negative makes a positive, right ?)

I think what people are getting at, is that the User Experience is different on the iPhone, and that there's doubts as to how well Microsoft can innovate a mobile OS that not only provides a billion functions/features, but a nice, clean way of doing it. I don't deny with Windows 7 Microsoft has moved in the right direction, just that at present many of us are willing to pay more (no one really ever "wants" to pay more for anything) for what feels like a more suitable User Experience on Mac's and iPhone's etc. I gladly welcome good competition, it's best for all of us, as it keeps things more competitive for us, the consumers.
 
MacRumors said:
Microsoft is reportedly seeking to pursue tighter integration of its software with third-party hardware, looking to place stricter limits on the basic characteristics of devices running Windows Mobile 7 so as to ensure a more consistent quality of user experience and reduce the need for application developers to make sacrifices otherwise required for applications to run on the wide variety of hardware running Windows Mobile in its current form.
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Funny that this is one of the arguments that PC folks usually use against Mac... they strictly control their hardware offerings to "ensure a more consistent quality of user experience..."
 
killmoms said:
The problem with Microsoft in this space (Zune, Windows Phone, etc.) is that they are continually playing catch up and shooting too late. They aim for where Apple is, but ship when Apple's already moved forward. Sure, the platform they've specified looks nice now, when Apple hasn't released new hardware... but if you think Apple's going to just put out another 3GS in the summer you're crazy. Apple's not standing still either—they just don't telegraph their plans 8 months in advance.
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You're exactly right. The biggest problem with Microsoft is they are not a consumer-focused company and their consumer-oriented products integrate like oil and water.

Whereas, Apple's products sort of flow together.

Microsoft makes all of its money selling Office and Windows to businesses. Naturally, that's what they're focused on. Their other divisions are just experiments they throw money at.
 
It will be interesting to see how it plays out. Personally it will have to be completely different than just a scaled down Windows 7. With that being said, they could pull it off. Windows 7 in general is a very very good OS. It may look the same as Vista and others, but it's executed so much better. I ended up buying my first PC in about 5 years 2 weeks ago. I bought it because I needed a new laptop as my Mac died and I was waiting for a new MBP. I'm actually working (and obviously surfing) on it right now as my office Mac is sitting right next to me. I swear Windows 7's new taskbar works so well that I can be more productive on Windows 7 with one screen as I can be with my Mac (sitting next to me not being used) with two screens.

I'm not a fan boy either way... I use whatever makes me more productive. At this point I'm leaning towards buying a new MBP when they come out and just running Win 7 as my fulltime OS with bootcamp. I'd do this because Apple hardware is 10x's better than anything out there for a PC... but with regards to operating system I'm going to have to call 50/50 on which I like better. OSX or Win 7. The only thing that may put me 51/49 in favor of Windows is I prefer Office on Windows better and if they're close I'd rather not have to run the Win version of Office under VMware if I like the OS' pretty much equally.
 
John Kotches said:
A significant portion of the internet uses Netscape's descendant, Firefox.
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Netscape would have done well if they could have figured out how to make money off the browser without actually making people pay for it (which is what Mozilla does now).
 
2iphonefangirls said:
I wish Ballmer would retire.

Re: Windows Phone
It is a new OS. It's not borrowed from Apple, but then not much is really "original" thought in the iPhone either. Even the name iPhone was licensed from Cisco.

The phone is said to be quicker than the 3gs iphone and even the 4g. Plus, it is multi-touch capacitive. Overall, it is a more integrated and better experience than the next generation iPhone. One thing for sure they are not locked into the same crappy AT&T network like us. :(

Multitasking? I understand that it will accept push technology and pause v. run in the background. That's a better design. Why? Because an app with a memory leak can drain a battery faster than a storm drain in a monsoon. And we all know how well our iPhone batteries last, which is why I have 2 iPhones.

Browsing is supposed to be more integrated along with the zune, xbox, twit stuff too. Apparently iPhones are considering using Bing. Did you know that?

The cons? No apps, well not yet anyway. MS has billions of money to give away to developers. They are standardizing their platform to allow for it.
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Faster than the 4g? How can it be faster than a phone that doesn't even exist?
 
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