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Microsoft Shuffles Executives as Nokia Debuts New Windows Phone with 41MP Camera

tonytiger13 said:
Said no one ever.
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Windows OS is still ugly. Problem?

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AppleMark said:
Oh Yes, because my Mac's never crash.....:rolleyes:
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At least that happens when I'm overclocking or using a broken GPU or using a corrupt hard drive and not when I go to Bing.com or play Chicken Invaders 2. And yes, those are the 3 reasons I've gotten KPs and the 2 reasons I've gotten BSoDs, respectively (both are rare).
 
longofest said:
Looks like you don't actually take 41MP pictures, but 5MP pictures. It uses the extra pixels to allow you digitally zoom without any loss.

From CNET:
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That's awesome....that's the downfall of smartphones is the inability to effectively zoom without looking like crap. This will hopefully be a big thing in the near future.

I'm not a photography expert by any means, so I don't know if just works well in theory...I'm sure there's some folks who can shed some light on the situation.
 
yeah i still don't get why 41MP.

so you can print your own billboards that you shot with your phone?
 
iThinkIt said:
that's awesome.. till your programs crash..... :rolleyes:
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iOS apps don't crash? :rolleyes: I love how people say my Mac/iOS never crashes. Mine crashes all of the time, the difference is Windows lets you know why it crashed, where iOS/Mac either just turns off or posts a message that is quit unexpectedly.
 
Isn't an "app" a program? It's short form for application and applications are programs. There's nothing wrong with what he said.
 
vthree said:
yeah i still don't get why 41MP.

so you can print your own billboards that you shot with your phone?
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You should do some research or read what is 41M is all about.

"That 41-megapixel camera is capable of capturing 34 and 38 megapixel-photos in 16:9 or 4:3, but when it takes that high-res image the 1020 is also saving what Elop calls a 5-megapixel “oversampled” image. Each of the pixels in those oversampled photos is composed of up to 7 pixels captured by the sensor (HTC did something similar on a smaller scale with the One’s UltraPixel camera), which makes for some richly detailed photos for sharing. Nokia’s Floating Lens stabilization technology seen in devices like the Lumia 920 has also been reworked to support the 1020′s hefty sensor."​

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It makes 8megapixel shots look amazing.
 
donutbagel said:
That doesn't really make sense to me. Can't you just take the picture and stitch together all of the digitally zoomed parts to get a 41MP image? What's the point of capturing 41MP then limiting it with software so that it downscales whatever you output?
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it oversamples. for a 5 MP image, 7 MP are used to produce 1 MP. you get better image quality and noise filtering because of the oversampling
 
Some of you people just love critisizing without reading about it. The sensor is 41 megapixel but the software combines 7 pixels into 1 changing it to 5 megapixel picture with little noise, effectively making it on the best low-light phone camera ever.
 
unplugme71 said:
and dSLRs.

Heck, at 41MP, people will need TB's of storage on their phones if shooting RAW
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MP's are vastly overrated by the general public and it's silly to suggest a camera phone would hurt dslr's. It's mainly about the glass and some about the sensor.
 
donutbagel said:
I think he means that when you're zooming into the 41MP shots and viewing them at the same pixel density as something lower, you'll see noise. That is, you don't really get all 41MP. I think this may be true, but I'd have to see it.
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A high pixel-density sensor will always resolve more detail than a lower pixel-density sensor. In good light that extra detail will be usable and even with higher per-pixel noise at the image level the higher pixel-density sensor will have more detail and less noise. In low light the extra pixels can be either binned or downsampled to again produce an image superior to a lower density sensor in both detail and noise.
 
MacRumors said:
Lately, Microsoft has taken to pitting Windows 8 tablets against Apple's iPad in a series of advertisements.
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Hey Ballmer. You mention Apple, you lose.

MacRumors said:
Microsoft hopes that its new focus on unity may help both its Surface tablets and Windows phones like the Lumia 1020 draw some market share away from Apple and Android as the company works to build a single integrated experience much like Apple has done.
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Hey Ballmer. You copy Apple lamely, you look clueless and stupid.
 
Still Waiting to switch

I'm going to wait to switch until it includes a coffee maker.
 
donutbagel said:
The 41MP camera seems shaky to me, but I still want to try this out. A lot of people here are saying the camera won't be good, but I think there's a bias in play. It sounds more like a smart point-and-shoot than a smartphone. Too bad it has Windows on it :(
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What bias? Bigger pixels mean more light; more pixels mean smaller pixels, sensor size being equal (which it necessarily is here). Adding that many pixels to a small-sensor camera is easy, but it's nonsensical if quality is your goal.
 
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