Siri: 14.6 Million in Q3 of 2013.
Surface: I'm sorry I can't do that.
Siri: I still think I'm dominating the market, but in reality I'm below 30% now. Time to cut back the arrogance, isn't it?
Siri: 14.6 Million in Q3 of 2013.
Surface: I'm sorry I can't do that.
Well, first of all you're trying to build an analogy where one doesn't really exist.
But I'll bite a little. First, understand that I moved from Windows to Apple in 2008, and I am now all in. Honestly, there was nothing compelling to me on the Mac side, even after OS X was shipped until Leopard. Before that I was unimpressed and uninspired by OS X.
But the difference here is that Apple brought a new, compelling and fun product to the market in the iPod. It got peoples' attention, and started to pull back the curtain to a lot of dyed in the wool Windows users who had never even considered Apple products. It showed them that perhaps computing and electronics didn't need to be kludgy and stoic.
Along comes Leopard, at just about the perfect time. People who are now starting to flock to the Apple stores because of the iPod are seeing how cool and easy computers can really be.
Then comes iPhone, and wow! The momentum builds.
A couple of years later, iPad. Each of these products pivots off of the others.
Now, let's look at the Surface. Aside from all of the technical downsides of it, and Microsoft's insistence on force feeding its large customer base a whole new UI experience on the familiar desktop that they've been using for 20 years, the reaction of the user is, "Well, I can get this "familiar" OS tablet (that's not really so familiar after all, since MS insisted on making everything so "revolutionarily different"). Ho-hum.
Or I can keep using this intuitive, fun, easy-to-use, stable, quality built tablet that is as familiar as all of the other devices I've come to love (as opposed to tolerate)."
That's why MS went so far out of their way to try to portray the Surface in their commercials as this hip, fun, happening tablet, when in fact the biggest selling point for it was that it was supposed to be the best of both worlds: A tablet like MS should have produced ten years ago, melded with the familiar, no-nonsense, "get my work done" ecosystem of MS. Problem was, it (especially the RT) was really none of those things. It wasn't cool. It wasn't familiar. And it wasn't a no nonsense business machine. By the time the Pro came out people had pretty much tuned out.
Their advertising? It was just lipstick on a pig.
So yes, the Surface is %$#*.
Pretty much that. The only reason you'd want Windows on a tablet is native MS office. And there's no metro version of it.
And they wonder why it tanked?
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That's been going on in general with Windows since v1.0
They did a tablet version of XP. It was crap too.
MS should just cut their losses and port office to iOS. That's what most people actually want WINDOWS for, not because it's windows so much. And office has always been the cash cow.
Also: they should work with Apple to enable Active Directory join of iPads to the corporate domain, along with some better MDM tools. That's the other thing corps want from a tablet that Windows could offer (which they REMOVED in the RT version)...
Umm... These numbers include x86/x64 Windows on the MS tablet.
To me, the real problem is the legacy, non-touch support that discourages the development of tablet optimized apps. We've had more than a decade of Windows tablets with legacy support as evidence that this strategy does not work.
Has anyone hacked a real OS onto the Surface?
Android phone sales were lackluster in their first year against the iPhone. Android tablet sales were lackluster in their first year against the iPad.
Both are doing just fine today... you can't judge long term viability in an established market by how well a company competes in the first year.
Office is marginalized more and more everyday as people start getting a clue and realizing that 90% of Office's robust functionality is not needed. The core abilities is what is wanted, which allows Google Drive, and soon iWork for iCloud, to act as a highly disruptive alternatives which weakens Office's ability to be a white knight.
I've been using Google docs/Google Drive since 2011, iWork and now iWork for iCloud beta, and will not be purchasing Office for my Mac or iOS devices. Its just not needed, and not worth the price.
I got a Chromebook for my wife and she manages the house budget in Google drive spreadsheets, sends emails, drafts documents all in Google Drive all on a device for $199.
How would you use Office without a keyboard?
also their pricing too.
besides that they're marketing this as some sort of office tablet. all I could remember from their ads was people dancing on tables doing spreadsheets. if I wanted to do that I'd go do it on a computer.
Exactly the point. I wouldn't use Office.
I don't want to use Office on a tablet or any other mainstream type of WP.
I want to take notes. Sure. I want to text. I want to email.
But I do not want to write elongated, professionally made up documents or spreadsheets on my iPad. I have no interest in doing as such.
I just want my tablet to slot in between by laptop and desktop.
I'm all for attaching keyboards to tablets. It's a good idea but never ever should be the main feature. Ever.
They need to do a Touchpad-like firesale on them. I'll buy one for $200
There it is. The m-word. Monopoly. Maybe that's Microsoft's fatal weakness.
They've had a near-monopoly on legacy desktop computing for too long.
They've forgotten how to compete. And they've lost touch with consumers.
Work gave me a surface pro. Gotta say it does more than my iPad. My iPad is great for fart apps and such. Some things the iPad does better... Still don't know if I would have paid the $1,000 price for it though...
That's not to shabby MS
Now only if you do not COMPARE that with the iPad sales.
I've used a Surface Pro at work, gotta say it's great for blue screens, manually editing registry keys, and running malware scanners![]()
Some of us do want to write long documents on a tablet. I regularly write long encounter reports on my tablet, I must type out at least 70+ pages per day of what starts out as handwritten notes which are converted to text, and later edited and uploaded to my billing company.
I think the point is that a windows tablet can replace a laptop, where an ipad cannot, at least not anywhere near as efficiently. While there is nothing wrong if you want an ipad AND a laptop, you have to understand that some consumers want a single device. Personally I think the keyboard on the surface was pretty awesome and a great idea, something extremely useful in day to day life for me.
Wow, blue screens?
What the heck are you doing these days that you get blue screens on a modern device? And why are you manually editing registry keys? The malware scanner kind if makes sense, I guess, but the other two just seem to be taken out of "troll Microsoft products 101".
I've used a Surface Pro at work, gotta say it's great for blue screens, manually editing registry keys, and running malware scanners![]()
Double-down on stupid.
Ballmer has absolutely no idea why the 1st-gen Surface isn't selling, so making a 2nd-gen is just plain stupid. It's a dart thrown at a dartboard by a blindfolded drunk -- he'll be lucky to hit the wall, let alone the board.
Not that I'm complaining. As long as Ballmer is CEO, that's one less competitor for Apple.