Parasprite
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Windows Vista (Jan 2007)
Windows 7 (Oct 2009)
Windows 8 (Oct 2012)
All years between 9 and 12 billion.
No I'm really not seeing a correlation. However their Microsoft Business (Office) is doing amazingly poorly right now.
Microsoft to Cut Windows Licensing Price by 70% to Compete with Apple
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Windows Vista (Jan 2007)
Windows 7 (Oct 2009)
Windows 8 (Oct 2012)
All years between 9 and 12 billion.
No I'm really not seeing a correlation. However their Microsoft Business (Office) is doing amazingly poorly right now.
Renzatic
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It's looking that way, though that hardly means it's game over for MS or Windows as a whole, provided they make the right moves.
They'll have to consider Windows more as a vehicle for their platform as a whole rather than a standalone product in its own right. Apple subsidizes iOS, iCloud, and the rest through its hardware, and Google subsidizes Android through the ad revenue it gets from its various web services. MS should do the same with Windows.
Michael Goff
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Are you serious? Ballmer didn't do a bad job while the CEO of Microsoft.
umrk
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The graph says (among other things) : OS business down, Office business stagnating (up if you are optimistic).
Hey, 1992 called - it wants its tired cliche back.
Michael Goff
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The weirdest thing is that it is attacking a company for focusing on making money. Do they think Apple's main focus is ... something other than making money? How about Google?
FriednTested
macrumors 6502
I have been using windows 8 on my 2 work pcs since windows 8 launched... I would definitely like to upgrade to 8.1... BUT, I am yet to get the damn store to work... Actually not only the store... Every stock app (mail, photos, etc., etc.)... Every official forum has the same rant answer which doesn't work for me... None of the solutions I found online have ever worked for me... And I am definitely not an average consumer... I am quite higher up on the geek scale... And still no can do...
Michael Goff
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And yet my mom, who referred to IE as 'the internet' was able to do it.
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In some ways yes, and in some ways no.
It's just Windows 7 but much worse. Though Mac OS X hasn't been doing much better with Mavericks, which is Mountain Lion but slower. Still so much better than Windows.
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Indeed!
Apple has become the largest company in the world - do you think its excessive margins have anything to do with it?
Microsoft is "a big evil corporation" - Apple is as bad, if not worse.
FriednTested
macrumors 6502
If MS just cop their prices to even a $80 for the full version they will make a hell lot more than they make now... As it might be an incentive to buy the original and not a pirated version...
He got Microsoft stuck in a corner. Phones and tablets nobody will buy, late-to-the-game cloud support, and a weak ecosystem. Google has already won over the non-iPhone/iPad market easily. Apple's got a lot of money coming in from iPhones and iPads and has a great ecosystem (though I'm not a fan of Tim Cook either). Office will probably continue to lose users to things like Google Docs and iWork, especially now that you have to pay for Office with a stupid subscription. Maybe there's hope in Bing if it can successfully copy Google more.
Not in any benchmarks I have seen. I may be wrong but the benchmarks I have seen all show Windows as outperforming OSX.
I run Windows and OSX on my Mac. I have run benchmarks on my own machine and Windows comes out on top every time.
Whether one prefers OSX to Windows is simply a subjective thing.
FriednTested
macrumors 6502
Dude the store just won't open... Or any stock app for that matter... Just the loading circle infinitely... Your mom seems to be a hidden genius... Could you share the steps she followed to get it to work...? There are many more like me who face the same issue... Just ask uncle google... He would tell you...
Jan 2007 revenue was from people buying XP to downgrade from Vista
I don't know why anyone would ever willingly install Vista, let alone PAY for it. XP was 1000X better.
Michael Goff
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She clicked on the store, waited for it to open, and then clicked on the update. The fact that you can't get it to open at all just seems bizarre. I have never actually ran into somebody who couldn't get the store to open. It might happen, sure, but it is hardly a large number.
Or if you have an x86, there's always updating with an ISO.
Dr McKay
macrumors 68040
That isn't normal behaviour. My Mac Pro at college would Black Box of death over the slightest things, asked to render video? 50/50 it would BBOD, save my work? 50/50 BBOD.
I would expect someone higher than the average consumer to realise something isn't right and it's not indicative of normal Windows behaviour.
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DarkCole
macrumors 6502a
I just called back, no answer.
Sucks.
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I more used it since it's ironic they're a company that sells software to make money, yet they're forced to drop the price of their software.
Michael Goff
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Eh?
You seriously think Office is losing its market to GDocs and iWork? Insuppose some companies are, but it's hardly a trend. Their phone and tablet market is gaining year over year. They're also making billions and billions of dollars. I seriously can't see the doom and gloom everyone is painting.
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They're trying to move from being a software company, so it makes sense that they would lower the price of their OS.
Dr McKay
macrumors 68040
You find it ironic a Company that sells software dropped their prices so that they could compete in a different section of the market and make more money?
Idolatry, conceit and myopia is why Apple's name is in the headline. Don't you know that all the world wants to be Apple and Apple's ***** never stinks?
Doesn't matter if their phone and tablet market is gaining (if that's even correct, which by the last data I saw, it's not). They've got tiny market share, and Android totally crowds them out. Most people don't need Office. A lot of companies are switching over to a Google Docs system.
thekev
macrumors 604
It's a game of commoditizing things, and Apple does it too. Cheap PC hardware means a larger sales volume, which means MS sells more licenses. In Apple's case they benefit from cheap software pricing. Having a large number of cheap or free apps helps sell more iphones.