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Microsoft to Release Office for Mac 2011 in Late October
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Exchange Web Services - Its a MAPI alternative. Much much faster than WebDAV. So that switch itself will yield big gains in performance.
There seem to be a lot of MS apologists here determined to feel superior by deriding anyone not in need of MS Office as not having real jobs or whatever...perhaps they feel slightly defensive that their pathetic cubicle-drone lives require it, I don't know. But not everyone who's discarded MS from their computing experience are "students who will one day be in the real world".
Case in point: me!
Working for a largish (50,000+ employee) company in a completely MS-centric company (hell our IT division, Mercator, has massive signed contracts with MS), in a completely backwards part of the world (Dubai, United Arab Emirates), I have had practically zero use of Office in the last few years. This part of the planet is so far behind (culturally as well as technologically) that Apple concerns are NEVER considered, yet MS is largely irrelevant if you want it to be - if it can be here, surely it can be in more developed countries. Certainly for content creation I NEVER use MS products anymore, occasionally I fire up Excel to open some spreadsheet that some poor devoted soul has earnestly embedded with complex macros.
And compatibility? Come on. To blame the Mac version for formatting problems is a bit rich. MS can't even ensure compatibility between different versions in the Windows environment!
Yes, there will always be complex accounting that will require a full-blown program like Excel (which seems to be the least-replaceable of the suite). But Office is to iWork as the iPad is to Windows laptops: bloated, buggy, overpriced, and completely unnecessary for the vast majority of what people want to do with computers.
So keep shilling those licenses to "companies with real jobs", but the truth is slowly getting out...
Case in point: me!
Working for a largish (50,000+ employee) company in a completely MS-centric company (hell our IT division, Mercator, has massive signed contracts with MS), in a completely backwards part of the world (Dubai, United Arab Emirates), I have had practically zero use of Office in the last few years. This part of the planet is so far behind (culturally as well as technologically) that Apple concerns are NEVER considered, yet MS is largely irrelevant if you want it to be - if it can be here, surely it can be in more developed countries. Certainly for content creation I NEVER use MS products anymore, occasionally I fire up Excel to open some spreadsheet that some poor devoted soul has earnestly embedded with complex macros.
And compatibility? Come on. To blame the Mac version for formatting problems is a bit rich. MS can't even ensure compatibility between different versions in the Windows environment!
Yes, there will always be complex accounting that will require a full-blown program like Excel (which seems to be the least-replaceable of the suite). But Office is to iWork as the iPad is to Windows laptops: bloated, buggy, overpriced, and completely unnecessary for the vast majority of what people want to do with computers.
So keep shilling those licenses to "companies with real jobs", but the truth is slowly getting out...
There seem to be a lot of MS apologists here determined to feel superior by deriding anyone not in need of MS Office as not having real jobs or whatever...perhaps they feel slightly defensive that their pathetic cubicle-drone lives require it, I don't know. But not everyone who's discarded MS from their computing experience are "students who will one day be in the real world".
Case in point: me!
Working for a largish (50,000+ employee) company in a completely MS-centric company (hell our IT division, Mercator, has massive signed contracts with MS), in a completely backwards part of the world (Dubai, United Arab Emirates), I have had practically zero use of Office in the last few years. This part of the planet is so far behind (culturally as well as technologically) that Apple concerns are NEVER considered, yet MS is largely irrelevant if you want it to be - if it can be here, surely it can be in more developed countries. Certainly for content creation I NEVER use MS products anymore, occasionally I fire up Excel to open some spreadsheet that some poor devoted soul has earnestly embedded with complex macros.
And compatibility? Come on. To blame the Mac version for formatting problems is a bit rich. MS can't even ensure compatibility between different versions in the Windows environment!
Yes, there will always be complex accounting that will require a full-blown program like Excel (which seems to be the least-replaceable of the suite). But Office is to iWork as the iPad is to Windows laptops: bloated, buggy, overpriced, and completely unnecessary for the vast majority of what people want to do with computers.
So keep shilling those licenses to "companies with real jobs", but the truth is slowly getting out...
What software does your corporate infrastructure leverage?
Student editions rarely have upgrade pricing - Adobe doesn't have upgrades of their student editions either. I'm not sure of the upgrade story on the full version.
Thanks for the info, appreciated
Why does it fall short of offering shared calendar support? And I'm not sure if it's a bug, but it constantly gives me an error message: Could not synchronize record with the following error code 18500
Still a FAIL
I have tried out the beta and TBH it's decent and pretty much the same as the Windows version but here's my gripe. MS is still shafting the Mac community by charging the same price for the business version of Office as they charge for the Windows version but the Windows version has One Note, Publisher, Access and some other apps/s that they refuse to make for the Mac but why are we being charged the same price for yet another dumbed down package?
Microsoft thinks the Mac community is stupid, the think we are all gonna get all giddy over the fact that they've "done us a favor" by creating Outlook so then we become blind to the fact that they omitted key apps to sabotage the Mac community again and force us all to stay on Windows. FAIL.
I have tried out the beta and TBH it's decent and pretty much the same as the Windows version but here's my gripe. MS is still shafting the Mac community by charging the same price for the business version of Office as they charge for the Windows version but the Windows version has One Note, Publisher, Access and some other apps/s that they refuse to make for the Mac but why are we being charged the same price for yet another dumbed down package?
Microsoft thinks the Mac community is stupid, the think we are all gonna get all giddy over the fact that they've "done us a favor" by creating Outlook so then we become blind to the fact that they omitted key apps to sabotage the Mac community again and force us all to stay on Windows. FAIL.
I'm a bit disappointed with their academic pricing. I can get Office Professional 2010 for Windows for £49.99 and Windows 7 Professional for £30 through Microsoft's academic pricing. Yet Office 2011 for Mac (without Access etc that you can get with the Windows version) will cost £62 excluding taxes so probably £74.99. 50% extra cost for about 50% less functionality than the Windows version. Looks like I'll be sticking to Pages.
You'd be surprised. In large enterprises Mac use is gaining a lot of ground with the right people. A few years ago I witnessed a company go from Windows only ever, to letting you use windows OR mac and fully supporting it over the course of about 1.5 years. The place I'm now is also at is in the early stages of this migration now. Microsoft is poring pressure on there customers to upgrade from 03 to 07 on a lot of fronts. Mac users are just one of them.
You mean via delegates?
We were on 2003 and one of the main reasons we are switching is because our Mac users are some of our biggest profit generating business units.
Hey, don't forget xbox. Got to give credit where credit is due. That devision is both innovative and successful.
I wish I was 10 feel tall, could lift cars and shoot lasers from eyes. Does not mean it's going to happen anytime soon. The suite is just too ingrained in society for it to go anywhere. Besides, it does it's job well.
I see your case and point. Why do you need ExtremeZIP though? Why not just have your mac access the same windows files servers?
I dunno, that's the extent of my extensive Outlook knowledge
Shared Calendaring is available via delegates. You can delegate calendaring and emailing based on users.
SMB lacks a lot of functions our Mac users need. Special characters, folder/file highlighting, and on the back end SMB still has issues with resource forks, special characters, hiding the resource fork files, etc. SMB just isn't the best option. AFP is native, its faster than SMB, more secure, and allows us to give our Mac users a rich Apple-like experience. For me being a Mac user and in charge of the Apple Infrastructure Design I know what its like to be lost in translation all day.
I think I have about four our five calendars I can view on my work Win XP Outlook, I can't view any of them on the Mac version? Is this just a limitation of the software, or am I doing something wrong here?
If I dare say it here, Excel is a great piece of software. It's probably the reason MS Office has retained it's near-monopoly in the corporate world. I've seen it used for everything from generating advanced reports/graphs from SQL databases to small business accounting, wedding planning, and even wireframing websites. Numbers isn't bad, but it doesn't come close to the advanced functionality that Excel has.
- Word is a bloated monster - the tables, footnotes, and image placement features have had me occasionally pulling my hair out for the last 15 years.. with little improvement. If only WordPerfect had merged with Lotus...
- Outlook is okay, but it's Exchange that really makes it worthwhile.
- Powerpoint is fine - Keynote is slightly better. Unfortunately most presenters are entirely capable of droning on for too long using either one.
- Access is nowhere near as nice as Filemaker, but when purchased as part of MS Office, it's far more affordable for most firms.
- Visio? - I'll stick with Omnigraffle and finish my work in half the time.
Uh ? You mean Microsoft confessed a lack of experience with Intel processor ? Interesting ...
Sir,
I seriously doubt that there's anyone here who is a "MS apologist" (whatever the hell that is) nor do I feel "superior" because I use "MS Products".. I am simply pointing out (as are many others here) that 99% of the business world is using MS Office as part of their basic image package.
I have 4 employees who are highly skilled professionals. And millions of people work in offices today all over the world. I seriously doubt any of them consider themselves "pathetic cubicle-drones" or any other sarcastic and degrading characterization you wish you place on them.
You can disagree, go off on a fanboy tirade, and whine and scream all you want but it won't change the fact that to do business in this world (and be compatible with others) it is important that you use the industry de facto standard. I'm surely not going to tell a client that the reason the spreadsheet I just sent them won't open is because I'm using a FREE shareware program downloaded off the internet while he and everyone else he does business with is using office.
I'm a Project Scheduler. I use Microsoft Project and Oracle Primavera P6 v7. I don't use "Open Schedule", "Uncle Joe's Cool CPM Shareware", or "NeoPlan". Yeah, it costs a few bucks to use what the rest of the world is using but that's how the "real world" works.
If I had a recording studio, I'd use Pro Tools, not "Jim's FREE Recording Software". If I were a draftsman, I'd use AutoCad or Rivit - not some generic junk downloaded from the net...
The "world is not waking up"... You need some semblance of standardization to interactivity communicate with the world. This isn't 1975 anymore where people work alone. Business is a collaborative effort whether you think so or not.
It's is you Sir who is the arrogant, degrading, and uninformed one in this discussion. Because a person has taken the time to become productive in this world, it's nobodies like you who label them "pathetic cubicle-drones" and "MS Apologists" .. And why are you doing this exactly?? Oh yes, because they won't exclusively use Apple Products...''
You Sir, are the pathetic one...' And judging from the condescending tone of your post, I doubt you're really anyone whose opinion really matters much.
Not yet. We are getting there. To me its all about the user experience. What people fail to realize though is that there are a lot of pieces to the puzzle, the Mac is just one piece.
indeed. Just try and send a protective order to a federal district court judge in Pages format and watch what happens.