Microsoft to Release Office for Mac 2011 in Late October

There seem to be a lot of MS apologists here determined to feel superior by deriding anyone not in need of MS Office as not having real jobs or whatever...perhaps they feel slightly defensive that their pathetic cubicle-drone lives require it, I don't know. But not everyone who's discarded MS from their computing experience are "students who will one day be in the real world".

Case in point: me! :D

Working for a largish (50,000+ employee) company in a completely MS-centric company (hell our IT division, Mercator, has massive signed contracts with MS), in a completely backwards part of the world (Dubai, United Arab Emirates), I have had practically zero use of Office in the last few years. This part of the planet is so far behind (culturally as well as technologically) that Apple concerns are NEVER considered, yet MS is largely irrelevant if you want it to be - if it can be here, surely it can be in more developed countries. Certainly for content creation I NEVER use MS products anymore, occasionally I fire up Excel to open some spreadsheet that some poor devoted soul has earnestly embedded with complex macros.

And compatibility? Come on. To blame the Mac version for formatting problems is a bit rich. MS can't even ensure compatibility between different versions in the Windows environment!

Yes, there will always be complex accounting that will require a full-blown program like Excel (which seems to be the least-replaceable of the suite). But Office is to iWork as the iPad is to Windows laptops: bloated, buggy, overpriced, and completely unnecessary for the vast majority of what people want to do with computers.

So keep shilling those licenses to "companies with real jobs", but the truth is slowly getting out...

I lost count of the false assumptions you made after 3 lines. :rolleyes: You do know what assume means, right?

Speaking as one of those "complex accounting" folks, I will reiterate that the moment I get a chance, I drop Windows completely. But that must not be good enough for students and...what are you, marketing?
 
Office Mac?

Is this supposed to be funny? Office for Mac has been a product for at least 7 years now (I own 2003). Quicken likewise has an offering (albeit not perhaps something you would consider worthwhile).

Word for the Mac came out in 1984. Excel for the Mac came out in 1985. PowerPoint was a Mac program that MS purchased. the time frame I do not know. Windows version was supposedly out as well that ran on Windows 1 & Windows 2 & then finally Windows 3.

So the Mac version was around at least as long as the Windows version was.
 
Word for the Mac came out in 1984. Excel for the Mac came out in 1985. PowerPoint was a Mac program that MS purchased. the time frame I do not know. Windows version was supposedly out as well that ran on Windows 1 & Windows 2 & then finally Windows 3.

So the Mac version was around at least as long as the Windows version was.

word and multiplan ran on DOS and TI-99/4A's before that...
 
what are the system requirements, will it run on Tiger?

What looks like an official list of tech requirements says:


Microsoft Office for Mac Home and Student 2011
System Requirements
A Mac computer with an Intel processor
Mac OS X version 10.5.8 or later
1 GB of RAM or more
2.5 GB of available hard disk space
HFS+ hard disk format (also known as Mac OS Extended or HFS Plus)
1280 x 800 or higher resolution monitor
DVD drive or connection to a local area network (if installing over a network)
Safari 5 or later recommended
 
what are the system requirements, will it run on Tiger?

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"Microsoft has not published formal system requirements for Mac Office 2011, but reports have the applications requiring Mac OS X 10.5.8 or newer."
 
So I just bought a new MacBook Pro and I need MS Office for law school in the fall. Would Amazon be considered an authorized reseller of MS Office 2008? It's a lot cheaper there, but I wouldn't want to try to save $30 and end up paying another $100 for 2011.

Bootcamp or VMWAre, Windows XP or 7, Office 2010. Especially since you'd be getting student pricing for MS products.
 
So I just bought a new MacBook Pro and I need MS Office for law school in the fall. Would Amazon be considered an authorized reseller of MS Office 2008? It's a lot cheaper there, but I wouldn't want to try to save $30 and end up paying another $100 for 2011.

Did you check if your school allows macs? Most lawschools, last I checked, still require PCs for examsoft (which may or may not work properly in bootcamp).
 
I have both Office 2008 and iWorks 9 on my MBP. Whenever I receive an attachment I just click on it to open it. If Office starts opening the file I either switch to Safari and look at some funny pictures on The Chive or play a game on my iPad.

If it opens in iWork, it makes sense to just wait those three seconds..

If MS wants me to spend money on their new office stuff, they better make it faster. Waiting for it to load takes more time than a cold boot of OS X.
 
Sorry Kid that you don't approve of my contributions to this forum. Comments are not always going to be positive. This discussion IS absolutely about MS Office, and when others offer suggestions such as "Why do we need Office when we have iWork or Open Office"??, I feel inclined to point out that these products are incompatible with 99% of the corporate world. I relate MY experiences in business with over 25 years experience.

If you don't like it, ignore it..... My point is that if you need to interact with others in business, there is no substitute for Office..

That's my informed opinion. I've earned the right to make it.

Is this like double experience? Did you write that in Office and paste it in? Did you know that Office has a grammer checker?
 
This product has not evolved for ages. Furthermore, its equivalent Open Office is free. I am not interested in subsidising Microsoft ...

Office 2011 is the biggest leap since Office X and has developed hugely over 2004, 2008.

Hopefully there will be a trial version available before it officially launches.
 
90 percent of businesses could do everything with Wordstar and Visicalc or Word Perfect and Lotus 123. Hmmm....:p
 
If this had one note I'd buy without thought, but without it, I think that I'll pass.

Good point.
I have not understood why MS has never tried to create a Mac implementation of their OneNote idea/note/info manager program.

So two marks against the Home packaged version of Office 2011:
(1) No included email program to replace the Entourage of Office X/2004/2008
(2) No Mac version of OneNote.
 
Very much so.

It's also the most stable version of Office I've used on OSX period.

Agree. Only one crash thus far and it was a user who was moving a corrupted Entourage Database to Outlook Beta 3.


Good point.
I have not understood why MS has never tried to create a Mac implementation of their OneNote idea/note/info manager program.

So two marks against the Home packaged version of Office 2011:
(1) No included email program to replace the Entourage of Office X/2004/2008
(2) No Mac version of OneNote.

I said it before. Sources tell me its in early development.
 
I actually prefer Apple Mail to Entourage. It fits with the rest of OSX much better.

It's a shame that Outlook still isn't really Outlook though. They should make it work with Exchange 2003 as there are still a lot of companies still using 2003.

I agree on both points. I really prefer Mail to Entourage because Entourage is such a non-Mac beast. Unfortunately, my company is one of those still using Exchange 2003, so Mail isn't an option for us. Neither, now, is Outlook. Looks like I'll continue sticking with Office 2004 for another cycle.

For home use: I'd love to upgrade, but the cost is exorbitant especially if we wanted to give Outlook (which is where at least 50% of the effort for this upgrade went) a chance. I think we'll just stick with iWork for home use and open things in OpenOffice when absolutely necessary.
 
Office is one of those things that I love on Windows but hate on Mac OS. Office 2008 just doesn't seem to have a natural interface to me. My wife bought a family pack so I had been using Word 2008 but I found it to be -- I don't know -- clunky? I used it on and off for a year and I never got used to the interface. I bought a family pack of iWork after trying the demo. I do wish some of the commands were standard (for example, cmd E doesn't center text) but I've been quite happy with it.

Command-E places selected text into the "search" clipboard, so you can quickly find the "next" occurrence of a word by hitting Cmd-E, Cmd-G. This is a standard shortcut across OS X.

I'd be FAR more upset about an app that messes up OS-wide shortcuts than one which uses different shortcuts from a similar app on a completely different platform.
 
Is this like double experience? Did you write that in Office and paste it in? Did you know that Office has a grammer checker?

Is grammer like grammar? Did you write that in iWork and paste it in? Did you know that iWork has a spelling checker?
 
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